Come on now, how could you miss the other thread on this one? Tut tut

Oh it was definitely true where I grew up. People talking to you about people you thought they didn't know because they knew that you knew them. If you follow that.

People talking to people you know but they thought you didn't and then them talking to you about it.
People talking to people you definitely DON'T know but then it eventually circling back to you via people you do. It's all horrible.

And the closed-mindedness of a small town.

No danger of that happening to me here in London. The people I know have nothing to talk about, and nobody else cares

I couldn't go back to a piss-ant little village where everyone knows everyone else and there's nothing to do. Spent the first 21 years of my life there and hated the last 6 or 7. My skin crawls at the very thought of being forced to return 8 years later.

Visiting is fine. Even growing up there was good. Safe as houses. Being an adult there? No idea how my parents do it.

Ah, so it's a ghost session not a dedicated hotlap mode. That makes sense

I did a few run and then accidentally deleted the bloody demo instead of loading it. Sometimes my trigger finger is quicker than my brain

I enjoyed it. The cockpit view might well be harder than the bonnet cam, but it's definitely a lot more fun and immersive. Obviously that's the view I'd choose. I wasn't trying to break anything, and I only did runs in the Evo and the California, but I felt that my pad controls were actually having an effect, unlike the way I felt with Grid and Dirt.

Will re-download it at some point to join in with the hotlap challenge. Although with the unrestricted rewind, time trials might get a little frustrating Didn't notice the hoptlap mode though - how do you get to that?

I expect the slight reduction in quality is down to a few things. First of all, it's a demo so there might be some file size issues there. Bear in mind the full game ships on 2 DVDs and the textures you downloaded for the demo could be more heavily compressed.
Secondly, the damage modelling - unlike previous incarnations they not only need the existing parts to look bent but they also need to model what's underneath them for when they come off.

That's a bit more like it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o_ffEHUQ_0

I watched that a couple of times thinking there was a slight pause before the rear end went up, but I think it's actually because he gets nudged again (maybe by the Scirocco). Still spectacular.

Was from the pause menu in FM2. Camera option. Bound to be the more or less the same setup as that.

Is the damage model turned on in the demo? Because that's the thing I'm most curious about. I want to know how the aero modelling screws you up. And I want video clips of people flipping.

And... and... well, I guess actual racing might be cool too.

Quote from Bob Smith :

You're not kidding that was silly. They were supposed to be green.

WTF? You know the only correct colour for hats is yellow. Bloody heretic.

Colour code should be on the VIN plate, near the bottom.

Different manufacturers have unique colours, so it's unlikely you'll get a straight answer from a range of people (unless a load of them own Mini's). My car is blue but is called 11N Noble Green (which is like blue with green metallic flakes through it).

How about the manufacturer's website? Or an owners club? The info will be up somewhere.

Punk! I had the 360 on all morning before I left for work and it didn't appear
We can queue downloads remotely now though, can't we? If I log into XBL from here I can set it up so I can just go home and switch the box on, right?

Poll is definitely looking good so far.

I assure you sir, it is totally legitimate!

As my Forza 2 performance has shown, that won't be me
Do I already have you on my list? Name is definitely familiar.

Pretty sure everyone on the entire net has seen and heard of this by now. And of course it was a bad move, why would any say it was alright?
I mean seriouslIMMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT HAZAKY HAS THE GREATEST KANYE POST OF ALL TIME.

Ahem.

Course if he'd done that to me while I was accepting my award, I would have punched him in his stupid face. But Taylor is a young girl so I'll let her away with not doing the same herself

The only thing I regret is not buying a DFP to go with it while I had more spare cash

The LFS demo is perfect for giving a decent example of what you get with the full game, so anyone who buys a full license and is then somehow not pleased with what they got, or for some reason feels short-changed down the line needs a punch to the face. Or at least needs to try and explain why.

Why would it ever need to be removed? Why would you want FEWER cars in the game? Madness.

Anyone stop to think that the system they're working on for the Scirocco might actually retroactively improve the existing LFS TC model? So hush your fool mouths

But it would be totally stupid to put the 2009 features on a 2006 car. Changes to aero models are pretty trivial and would most likely be added to suit the driver's style rather than as a global improvement to every car.

I did Latin for a year at high school, but I can't remember much of it now beyond "ego sum" and "in cuisina"

This site seems to be a fairly high quality translator for Latin (not tried it with any other languages). Translate one way, then translate that back the other. A lot of the time you end up with something totally stupid, but the handful of phrases I tried seemed to work okay.

And all modern European languages came from Latin. That's why it's called the Latin alphabet

Issue 553!

If you'd said "in a land far far away" there I'd have actually laughed

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Engine affects everything? Just stfu

The GRAPHICS engine, not the car engine

Yeah, well you can't really count the demo as a valid stage since it's a byproduct of the actual main item. That demo is really the only marketing LFS gets to people who don't already know it. So any updates it gets are irrelevant. Like car facelifts - you get the same car you would've done before, just with some updates.

But something as big as an engine overhaul is a major stage by itself. It takes crazy optimising. I was in the Mythos beta when they suddenly announced a change to the entire way the game was going to play. It was a disaster (and now it's dead) because they stretched themselves too thin.

The engine affects everything so having loads of loose ends kicking about while you do a job that big has "mistake" written all over it.

Dynamic boobs, on the other hand, affected by wind with proper soft shadowing, has "win" written all over it. As the new Ninja Gaiden advert proved

I think it's more likely that as we approach a point where is S2 is about as finished as it's likely to get, there's no point delaying the inevitable and dragging it out by sticking more (largely unnecessary) content into that when they could save it for the next stage.

That way from now on, work on S2 will be limited to bug fixing and minor updates for features that are already in, but they have a bit of a road map for once that's done and out. With elephants and a rally pack

I think you're all missing the bigger picture here.

Look at the spread of cars and tracks across S1 and S2. What the hell makes you think that ALL you'll get in S3 for the same money is a single track? That's just stupid. It'll either be a lot less money (or none), or this is just the start of a run of new stuff before the full S3 release.

Personally I'd be happy to pay another £12 for whatever new stuff they give us as long as one of those is the graphics engine update, because that would then give us the lighting support to have dynamic time of day races. That in itself would make it seem like we had more new content.

Without the graphic update I want 400 new cars and I think 17 tracks. And an elephant. Who doesn't want to race elephants? And the rally pack! And some Chelsea Whoppers. Mmmmm, Chelsea Whoppers...

I agree, that text should at least be movable, even if you can't hide it. Would be far less intrusive along the very top or bottom of the screen at the very least.

Besides, real drivers don't have HUDs in their helmets telling them to come in. I'm sure the team just radio in every now and again if it looks like they've forgotten. Could have a little dot matrix-style panel somewhere in the cockpit (or on the screen for external view folks) that has a different graphic for different penalties.

Something like...
>> - Drive-Through
|> - Stop & Go