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Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
in s1 i used to like the south city unofficial 2 reverse, (sprint track 2 rev in s2?)

but for s2 i like the so city long reverse in the xrg. i roll over and have a cigar after that one joking
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
yes a rolling start will not stop t1 syndrome.. infact it possibly could only make it worse.

eg on a particular track, let's say blackwood.

on a standing start you already have quite a bit of speed when you hit turn 1.
but on a rolling start you would have crossed the start line doing 80kph or so already.

this means you'll hit turn 1 most likely at race pace with all the other cars off the grid no doubt still up there with you.. same situation
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
what do you mean by...

Quote : After I change something it seems to be ok - about 35 - 40 FPS (which should let me play comfortably) but after I drive

you mean go into garage and change settings, then play again?

i would probably say heat related as the_angry_angel says. the garage screen in lfs is actually set to run at a limited fps (forced 30fps if i recall correct) so any time spent on that screen would not be pushing your computer very hard.. and perhaps gives the overheating component time to cool down.

i believe most (if not all) cpu's clock themselves down to lower speeds as they begin to overheat, so if you've got it overclocked i'd be returning it back to its standard speed. even if in theory someone can overclock their computer safely (temperature wise) it can still cause havok in lfs.

you seem to have a fair idea about what's in your computer, so if i were you i'd be taking the side off your case and checking out the heatsink on your cpu, if its got a fair amount of dust in it blow it out with compressed air or just shove a cloth down between each fin to clear it all out.

if indeed overheating is the problem i would say it would have to be the cpu, because when video cards overheat it usually doesn't cause slowdown, just weird artifacts and effects on the screen.

let us know how you go!
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
anyone who suggests notepad is just trying to show off, and suggesting it to a newbie is just absolute stupidity.

i would suggest try and get your hands on a copy of macromedia dreamweaver it's not free, but then again not much is these days...
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
but why on the old .3 S1? perhaps that's part of the problem? s1 owners dont realise they can download s2 and still unlock the s1 content??
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
blackwood, evening and high wind with an xrt settled on 21c
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
alright i've got an xrg sitting on bw on evening setting with high wind let's wait and see
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
Quote from StanleyCarter :

Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
lol i like hearing people say they can't find 12 pounds. are you living that close to the edge that you dont know where the next meal is coming from?

if you're paying for a computer and an internet connection surely you can find the money, or save it over a period of weeks

be truthful now; dont have the money for s2, or dont want to spend your money on s2?
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
Quote from richy :
just trust in the fact that in a real car is there isnt an A and Z key.

you also don't sit up as straight on an office chair and also not looking at a screen 40cm away from you sim racing will always be just a play on reality
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
Quote from bbman :Maybe the biggest advantage of wheels is, that you can brake and throttle at the same time, which can help you a lot stableizing (how the hell do you spell that?) the car through the corner, thus enabling you to go through with higher speed...

why can't you do that on a keyboard and mouse setup? i have A- accelerate Z-brake.. if i want to brake and throttle at the same time i hold both of these keys down... it isn't rocket science

the only disadvantage a keyboard or mouse has going against it when compared to the wheel, is the digital like throttle and brake. where a wheel driver can hold an F08 at 1/3 throttle when feathering it out of a corner, mouse and keyboarders have to taptaptap. though on slower cars the disadvantage isn't as significant.

i pop by the demo occasionally and im down to low 1:23's XRT on my mouse
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
Quote from thisnameistaken :It's not just the way I remain completely stationary for the entire performance, but the conviction with which I demonstrate the deliberate immobilisation of the vehicle. Audiences truly believed that the car was parked, and not simply stopped for some other reason, abandoned or what have you. It was very powerful. Many were reduced to tears.

:uglyhamme yes it surely was not an easy task, simply moving the steering wheel slightly is all it would take to ruin the performance and shatter the assumption of the viewer that the car in question is indeed parked.
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
well i have a vid of a stunt that happened online, it isnt overtaking but its pretty cool!

http://media.putfile.com/LFS-Cunning-Stunt

i was messing around in demo and it just happened, hehe. if only there were some opponents nearby, it would have been awesome to overtake someone this way
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Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
yeah i got .4k here. somewhere on the lfs server there is all the versions, i had a link to it ages ago.. maybe someone can tell us again?

best thing about .4k is the respawn button works at absolutely ANYTIME! you can be doing 200kph down blackwood straight with a train of AI cars behind you, press respawn and your car respawns sitting still and the other cars slam into you 200kph -> 0kph instantly
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
It's OK, just attach this warning sticker to everything.



it's so vague that it should cover most safety issues because no one has any idea what the hell its on about!
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
well i leave acceleration on, also i believe my dead zone is at .8, quite large. it probably isnt vital - just whatever setting you choose, stick with them. i certainly dont feel impaired, i know exactly where the mouse needs to go
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
what's this mouse fix?
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
oi!!!!!! change it back!! lol. if you had made it through the change over period you would have been set

its true my way is harder to do other things, but ive learnt to basically do everything except talk... no big problem
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
Quote from Funnybear :I've swapped. I'm using the mouse for the gear changes and the keyboard for dah power to wheely things and stoppinging of the shiny thing . . . And changed a few things in my settings, Analogue steer thing and button adjustment thing. And I reckon, once I get used to it, I have some kick arse times in that car of mine . . . It's taken at least 20-30m of my braking zone already and my steering is a lot freerer now I don't have to worry about the 'pedals' with the same hand. Still getting confused but that will sort it self out ofter some serious Muscle Memory retraining.

Thanks for the info guys. LFS has just reached another level . . . . Just when I think I've learned all there is to know . . . .

congratulations!
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
Quote from Funnybear :BTW, when do you guys use the clutch? I have never felt the need to use during racing? Is there a certain time and a place when the clutch aids your speed or handling? (I am using auto clutch.)

I use autoclutch, however I dont use throttle cut or blip. It's really handy to have the clutch button on hand as there are certain times I'll use it, like when changing down multiple gears at once or recovering from accidents, etc.

I'd only change your accel/brake to keyboard if your current style bugs you.. If you've taken the time to learn that way you may as well stick to it I cant really say either style is better than the other, just personally for me one way makes alot more sense.. in the end its just my opinion
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Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
Quote from NetDemon01 :I wouldn't say that is a fact for everyone. Just depends how coordinated a person is. I have my keyboard do the shifting and clutch, and mouse do throttle/brake/steer. Works fine for me. Though while I don't have any WR times, I'm anywhere from .5 to a few seconds off of them.

its true, i can only share my point of view. i tried it for a while and it came across as slightly clumsy - actually its method seemed very familar to using a joystick - each direction is controlling something. if your car snaps into oversteer and you rapidly try to counter steer, the odds that you may accidently move the mouse up or down slightly as you slide the mouse sideways across the mousepad is quite high! i dont think its much to do with coordination, if you spend time with any controller setup you can master it.

i have a hard mousepad, i often have a problem with feeling grit under the mouse, on a straight i am able to lift the mouse up and brush the grit away with the back of my hand, i cant do that if the mouse is controlling my throttle

but in my view, i see controlling a car is made up of 2 main controls, the "pedal" controls (throttle/brakes/clutch) and the "steering+shifting" controls. real cars splits the tasks between your feet and your arms. imo on a keyboard and mouse it makes sense to split them up also, so essentially my left hand are my feet, and the right hand are my arms so to speak.

whatever you choose to do instead is upto you
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Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
a mouse+keyboard combination is technically better than the keyboard alone, since you can have analogue steering. only thing is it will feel totally unnatural when you are first learning. however when you get used to it, it's quite an amazing control method, turn as quickly as you want and with dead accuracy.

im a mouse racer and have no problem keeping up with wheelers, even have 2 WR's outright

however i will say..
some people also use the up/down motion of the mouse to enable analogue acceleration and brake (and at the same time, left and right on the mouse to steer), i would advise against this as it simply gives the mouse too many things to do and your racing will no doubt suffer from this. also, others use the mouse buttons for accelerating and braking.. but for me this also feels like again the mouse hand is doing too much

the answer? use A for accelerate, Z for brake, X for clutch, space for handbrake. this gives your left hand complete control over all the speed related controls. you can easily blip the throtte while braking, or even blip the throttle while braking and using the clutch, the finger which is used for brake can move across to hit both Z & X together, etc.

this leaves your right hand free to steer with the mouse, and shift gears with the mouse buttons.

that's the setup i use, and i personally havn't found one for this control type which is better! hope this is helpful

tak
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
i hope something can be worked out, you guys run a fantastic service and i dont know what lfs would do without you all! thankyou very much
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
that truely is a shame.. can it be set so people can upload, but can't change or delete files once they're on there?

you guys run a great service, in a few months my InitialD LFS Battlestage S2 will be uploaded to you
Takumi_Project.d
S2 licensed
Quote from bobvanvliet :takumi: Would this also be done in race-cars? I don't thinks so.

well i saw/heard about this feature on an audi A8 diesel, so that's a road car
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