Quote from Tweaker :

Still though, I can't browse the web without the Extensions available for Firefox

PDF Download
downTHEMall! (nice ext.)
Download Statusbar
MeasureIt (I love this!)
EditCSS (big timesaver)
HTML Validator

Mostly developers and designers like Firefox, don't ask me why, but it is good, and I really haven't had any serious bugs or dumb crashes like in my IE days :banghead:

Yup it's true the amount of extensions available to firefox are very cool, i still consider it an awesome web browser. i guess i dont use them all that much though so opera suits me down to the ground

Death to teh IE!

i've been loving firefox. but recently Opera 8 became totally free, they used to run a banner advertisement on the browser until you paid for it. i guess they want to be competitive in the market and i reckon it's a bloody good move!

used to love firefox but IMO opera feels THAT more faster and polished product choice is a lovely thing

Quote from the_angry_angel :

I'm gonna disagree with you Takumi_Project.d - the higher the FPS the better in racing sims because the distance traveled by the car between frames is much smaller, which gives you better reaction times to corners and danger imho.

isn't that pretty much what i was saying? 15fps doesnt give you enough reaction time... 30 is preferred and 60 or higher is what the top racers aim for/wanna have?

when i had a P4 2.0 and a geforce4mx440... i upgraded to a 6600Gt and got exactly no FPS benefit.. the old mx440 isn't as bad as you think in LFS.

i then upgraded to a p4 3.2 and instantly got a massive improvement..

end result, even if you only have 1 bottleneck in the system it will drag down your performance.

it would indeed be cool if people could upload LFS billboard themes to LFS world that servers could select that would enable some kind of moderation, ie only the best ones accepted.

still hardly an essential thing though is it

Quote from Rusty_Wheels :

Talking of Pits,
1. How do I know, on a new track, which way to turn out of the pits?

easiest thing here is to just drive out into the pit lane, stop and press the car reset button. it should point you slightly in the correct direction

Quote from Paulw :

Other cars do jump about a bit from time to time but mainly its very jerky, causes me to crash a lot when otheres are near. but runs fine when on my own or not too near a crowd, its like someone is pressing pause and releasing it very quickly.

yup mate that's just low fps, your cpu would be the limiting factor on your pc i would say

Quote from Paulw :

as for ping, i tried different servers with varying ping rates, even some with 45 were still the same, im guessing this also leans towards low fps?

the ping doesnt have anything to do with how fast the game will run, but rather just how smoothly the other cars will be racing.

let's say for example if we were both on a server, and it said your ping to the server was 200ms. if you were watching me speeding down the straight and i hit the brakes.. in theory you would see my car braking 200ms (.2 of a second) after i ACTUALLY hit the brake pedal in my house it's how quickly the data from the other cars is getting to your LFS.
(this is without considering the packet frequency setting, im not even gonna go into that! )

so you'd want the ping figure to be as low as possible. 45 (.045 of a second) is a great ping and plenty for LFS. anything lower than 150 is fine.

Quote from Paulw :

I'll have to turn the fps rate on to see what im getting, can you give me an idea as to what it a decent frame rate??

Many people will give you alot of different answers here i'll break it down as what i reckon you need for good racing:

DESIRED: 60 Frames Per Second or higher
world record holders etc would probably say this many is what you'd need. i guess the faster and smoother the game runs, the better.

PREFERRED: 30 Frames Per Second
in my opinion 30 fps is comfortable and probably the amount you'd want to be racing with.

MINIMUM: 15 Frames Per Second
racing with 15fps would not be fun at all, but there were stories of quite competitive racers who's machines only did around 15fps. sure you can still race with the game running this slowly, however it's like you say "someone pressing pause on and off all the time". less frames means you cant actually drive as smoothly, less time to react to things happening in the game etc.

Last edited by Takumi_Project.d, Tue 20 Sep 2005, 02:17.

Paulw are you sure you are suffering from LAG? Or perhaps just very low frame rates?

LAG: cars disappearing turning into (LAG: ) clouds, cars jerking side to side or generally all over the road. game still runs at a smooth speed.

Low frame rate: game runs constantly in a jerky or choppy motion. other cars appear to be racing normally, just the game is hard to play as the motion is jerky. slowing down as more cars are on screen, then speeding up as less are on screen.

To find out the ping of the server; on the LFS server list there is a ping column. anything lower than 150ms is GOOD!


so what sounds more like your problem Paulw?
at a guess i would say you probably just have low frame rates on the start line. your CPU is most likely the cause of this. you can lower the graphic detail to try speed things up a bit, and if you do indeed have a geforce 3 or close to, try turning on the HVS on the graphics tab.

actually i have noticed this problem also. locked lfs to 30fps, ran the replay at half speed and set fraps to record 15fps! 640x480, it appeared it couldnt even manage that, i got less than 15fps. p4 3.2 here.

giving us the average ping of the servers you join is a start, generally any server below 150ms should be fine.

what pings do you get?

i dont know about diesel but perhaps the UF1 can be turned into electric just have a big slot underneath for where the AA battery slots in

i would bring back that fern bay grass with the glue.

either that or like a possibility of a puncture due to some foreign object jabbing the tyre.

drink or not, all you can blame is yourself.

here's an initial d themed AE86 i made



XRG: http://img.photobucket.com/alb ... rojectd/XRG_PR4takumi.jpg

XRT: http://img.photobucket.com/alb ... rojectd/XRT_PR4takumi.jpg

XRR: http://www.pacificaracing.com/ ... /Takumi/XRR_PR4takumi.jpg

be very careful here!!

i would choose the AMD Athlon XP 2400+ with a Nv GF4 MX440.

on my old PC, a P4 2.0 512mb and a 64mb GF4 MX440, i bought a ATI 9200SE 128mb card foolishly thinking it would be faster.

how wrong i was. it's true the 9200SE DID have HVS - but in the end it was actually substantially SLOWER than my GF4 MX440!

running 640x480 with no Anti Aliasing and no Anisotropic filtering, the card was still slower than my GFMX440 when it was in 1024x768.

Turning the 9200SE up to 1024x768 makes matters a whole lot worse, and turning on even the lowest Antialiasing turned lfs into a 5fps slide show. before you asked, all the latest drivers were installed properly, and i even tried other versions of the ATI driver. pure and simple the card was a P.O.S.

the reason the "SE" cards are so horrid is because the ram only has half the bandwidth. while an "SE" 9250 may have 128mb of ram, when the standard 9250 has 64mb - since the SE's ram is slower it ends up being slower overall. what does that translate to? any resolution above 640x480 will kill the card massively (higher you go, slower it is), and adding AA and AF to the equation simply makes it laughable.

so once again, go the faster XP 2400+ with the GF4. CPU is more important,in my example i had the exact same CPU, the GF4 came out ontop by a huge margin, so running a 2400+ (as opposed to the 1800+) just tips the margins even more in its favour. the GF4 MX will easily beat the 9250SE.

i would imagine an 1800+ with a 9250SE would be pure crap! excuse the french.


in conclusion, running a p4 2.0, in 1024x768 racing online with half a dozen other cars onscreen:
GF4 MX440 ~around 40FPS with 2xAA (HVS disabled [card doesnt have it)
9200SE ~around 10FPS with 2xAA (HVS enabled)

turning the AA off made things slightly better, but you can see what im getting at here.

Last edited by Takumi_Project.d, Mon 12 Sep 2005, 10:37.

yes i would also recommend the 6600GT.

i run a P4 3.2 and the difference on the 6600gt, between no AA/AF and 8x AA/16x AF is absolutely nothing. unstoppable card in LFS, crank up the settings and off you go!

Quote from RAYfighter :

Sometimes I tend to hate these tutorials and hints for TOTAL noobs...

Mate, even when people give you a guide on how to get a specific effect, usually it helps you LEARN how the effect is made, and often give you ideas on how to create something entirely new.. paving the way for trying new ideas and furthering your knowledge.

Quote from RAYfighter :

it's really boring and kinda sad to browse many pages of questions about so basic and apparent things...

It is indeed sad that you browse these pages if everything is "apparent" to you. To others who are genuinely interested, it's like having a class with a teacher - you can pick up quite alot of info from them.

Quote from RAYfighter :

What I mean here is the fact that DoN (i guess) had put some huge load of hours into these pictures, playing with them, studying real photographs or even making his own to see how the things really work.

Yes, and unless im mistaken it's DoN who is supplying these tutorials. If you're new to Photoshop, reading some simple tutorials won't make you an "instant DoN", but it's starting you down the road to learning isnt it?

i respect that the opinion is your own but i would seriously say lose the ego - we were once all newbies (some still are?)

You have to start from somewhere, what's the point of poking around in the dark when there are people willing to give you tips and help you out.

Quote from GTR_Yuni :

Hey tak, where the heak did you get the green Daytona Skin? I don't remember you posting the green one on RSC at all!

yup its kinda new but talk about lazy, i planned to do heaps of others but i think this is enough. it's in the download section of www.pacificaracing.com if you want them

cheers for that fixed

in true daytona style.. no effects hell, i should have turned the anti aliasing off also

Last edited by Takumi_Project.d, Sun 11 Sep 2005, 13:25.

Quote from Seaweed :

I think a liscense system would work well, if you cause an incident players in the server can vote against you after a certain number of votes you recieve a point on your liscense after recieving so many points your LFS account is suspended for a pre determined amount of time.

introduces potential for fowl play. what about that wrecker team? whats to stop some people like that ganging up and ruining people's licenses.

Last edited by Takumi_Project.d, Fri 9 Sep 2005, 06:23.

"Live to Weed"

Quote from Scawen :

Built a shed recently and bought a worktop and sink to build a new lower part of my kitchen. How exciting - I'm not sure you really wanted to know that!

Well loads of things really, but i'm not going to bore you with them as it's nothing to do with LFS... but just imagine for yourself if you had a house and did *nothing* on it for four years or so, and neglected all parts of your life that didn't need urgent attention, then there would be some jobs to do and things to sort out!

Watch out Scawen, or some people will begin asking for kitchen renovation progress reports