Hello,
I started with driving lessons, I had G27 a year ago and used it for 2 weeks just for fun.. If I buy this again and play LFS, is it gonna help me with driving and pass the test?
I kinda feel like I miss the game either

New personal best for me on Blackwood GP in the XR GT.

Live for Speed S3 0.6K
Logitech G27, manual with H-pattern shifter & clutch.
AMD Eyefinity 5760x1040, 60fps

PanterA ... Forever Stronger Than All

after i installed the 0.6h update not playing from a while the force in g27 broke i try to go install old verison of lfs and i did work i need help

LFS Name:Og Monkeyy in game [Monkeyy]
Country:canada
Preferred Number:115
License:S3
Drift Experience: 1 year
Controller:G27 + handbrake
Availability: 5 Days A Week Or More
TimeZone:eastern

de plus je parle le francais et l'anglais

LFS Name:OG Monkeyy in game [Monkeyy]
Country:Canada
Preferred Number: 115
License: S3
Drift Experience: 1 year
Controller:Logitech G27 + Logitech Extreme 3D pro (handbrake)
Availability:5 Days A Week Or More
TimeZone: Easter Time

Run LFS, Options, Controls, Axes/FF, left mouse button on throttle, press on throttle pedal, (Slider 0 on my G27) Left click on Slider 0, goes gray, magic, now works.

Also select throttle/brake axes as separate. The logitech profiler usually does this, try downloading that.
Here's the win 7 version.

Last edited by Racer X NZ, Tue 29 Dec 2015, 04:23.

What kind of team are you looking for? : Race
Age: 26
Country: Greece
Preferred Car/Track: All
Average Laptime on Your Preferred Car/Track:
How Active Are You?: Almost training every day.
What Kind of Control do you use?: G27
Time Zone: (GMT+2) (I think)

Hello folks! Ozzy here! I am Polish, but live in Ireland. New to the game, just received today my G27 and bought s2 license, drifting is what interesting me, so if anyone has any tips for me please pm me and see you all on the track!

The Barcelona tracks are quite nice.
Tires squealing is quite strange ... but maybe I did not drive AC for some times up to tonight ... so I may not be objective ...
I spent some quick moments on the new cars, and they are quite pleasant to drive(even if the RUF RWD is for Pallukka type of player, normal people : prevent yourself from being ridiculous, and take the AWD model ), especially the Countach wich gives a nice feedback at first sight.

NB1 : I was quite surprised to see the shift LEDs of my g27 to follow the high RPM ... my daughters are going to appreciate

NB2 : I do not recognize Magione ! Looks very different now.

NB3 : I have bought 16Go more of RAM (total 20), so that has an impact, but loading time seems very acceptable

Here the update on my race wheel project.

I decided to purchase the Thrustmaster T300 RS.
Clann Sidman of http://www.simability.com has created an adapter for the SRW-S1 to T300

Photo 1, the SRW-S1 with special adapter made by Glenn


Photo 2 SRW-S1 mounted on the T300

It drives fantastic, much better than the Thrustmaster RGTFroce feedback. Everything is configured properly in the options of LFS and other racing games.

Glenn is also working on a project to make 360 hand controls for the Thrustmaster T300 (without the SRW-S1 wheel) look the movie on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMDgQU8DpwQ
He also works on a 360 hand controls for Ligitech G27 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o92XJySoIw

Both are not yet for sale, if you are interested keep an eye on the website http://www.simability.com or contact Glenn Sidman.

not there yet, but since i may not have the chance for a while, here are the latest iterations of what i hope will some day be an all-around set.

since i can't drive, this may be useful for others like me to have fun. there is a bit too much wing but the car stays very driveable and seeks to turn in while staying (sort of) stable through the mid corner and exit.

there are three sets, one from earlier today that stood out, another that i think might be the best of the three, and the last one i was working on tonight so maybe not as polished but quite interesting.

note 606 degrees with g27 in global profiler. it may need to be a bit lower still... not quite sure how to do steering geometry

From the first day i got my G27 it would disconnect randomly than i went to Logitech and they gave me another one it still had the same problem Some times it would stay 2 to 3 Hours not disconnecting but sometimes every 15 Minutes or So I tried Everything But There Is nothing that worked. I Tried To change the power setting of the usbs Did Nothing. And For People Who Are Asking about What happens when the wheel "disconnects"? it dies completely and recalibrate itself then i can play unteil it does it again.

My G27 has same problem...
I thought the shifter was broken, so I bought new one and test it.
But it doesn't work...

Has there been any progress?

Cheers Inouva, I'll download it shortly.

Thanks for the advice Gutholz, I think I'll just get a separate shifter and pedals from elswhere. Im liking this http://www.shiftershh.es/en.html it's 3d printed and not too expensive. I should really have got a g27 but just don't have the funds. I managed to get the dfgt for £51 new which was pretty good.

Any idea when graphic overide 3.5 is finished or if there is something similar with directx 9 compatability?

One last question, lol, probably one for Scawen. Are there any plans for directx 10+ in the future? I'm just rather interested. I did search but couldn't find any info.

Sorry for all the questions!

Last edited by markknightpz, Tue 25 Aug 2015, 00:23.

just an update.
I've found a new project for disabled people who want simrace.
look here:
http://www.simability.com/
http://members.iracing.com/jforum/posts/watch/0/3318275.page (only for people who have an account with iRacing)

I have purchased the 'SRW-S1 to G27' adapter and the SRW-S1 wheel (the wheel has not yet arrived) I think I 'm going to use the Logitech G27 as a base.

(if there are people who want to stay up-to-date, please let me know here and I will keep this post up-to-date with more information)

You could try to change the power setting of your USB ports.
Select that it isn't allowed to go into power saving and see if that's a solution to your problem.

You could also try to see if there is a newer driver for you G27 or for your USB-ports / Motherboard.

From the first day i got my G27 it would disconnect randomly than i went to Logitech and they gave me another one it still had the same problem Some times it would stay 2 to 3 Hours not disconnecting but sometimes every 15 Minutes or So I tried Everything But There Is nothing that worked

Quote from felplacerad :

And oh, I forgot one important aspect: the configuration of input devices, primarily a Wheel. But I guess some people might be interested in gamepads, also.

I remember LTWheelConf but apparently that functionality has been implemented into the kernel (does anyone know what version?). If someone have setup a wheel in Linux recently I would not mind receiving some feedback on the matter.

I've got a G25 and a Xbox 360 Wireless Controller. I'll try to cover both.

Edit: Ok, my current kernel (3.16.7) had no problem identifying my G25 and wine+LFS picked it up nicely, too. Although I did not notice any force feedback before running ffcfstress (provided by the "joystick" package) to test the FF. But to be honest calling this "Force Feedback" is VERY kind -- "FORCE" seems more appropriate since the only effect I can notice is the centering spring. Is this all to be expected?

Edit: So since we're not able to use ltwheelconf anymore am I correct in assuming that ffset is the way to go for configuring gain and autocenter while range should be configured by editing /sys/module/hid_logitech/drivers/hid:logitech/*:*/range by hand? There is no one tool to rule them all?

The brief history of Logitech wheels support in Linux can be summarized like this:

- 3.2 Initial support for force feedback and range change, DFP, DFGT, G25 and G27 supported
- 3.5 G27 LEDs support added
- 3.10 Support for a newer revision of DFGT added
- 3.13 Various improvements to the handling of autocentering and "constant force" force feedback effect
- 3.14 Support for newer revision of G27
- 4.1 Reworked wheel identification and mode switching code, all current and future revisions of supported wheels should be recognized properly
- 4.2 (currently in -rc7) Various cleanups and improvements, most of them irrelevant for a general user

... Future plans
- G29 support: could land any day
- Support for other force feedback effects that "constant force": In the works, proof of concept code working, lots of testing required


Force feedback is mostly a kernel thing. Besides patching the kernel there is not much more that can be done to improve the experience. Universal tools to set the range etc. won't happen for a long while - if ever - because this stuff is all vendor-specific with no standardized interface such a tool could leverage.

I noticed that the Wiki page concentrates only on Debian at the moment, maybe a bit of restructuring so that instructions for other distros can be added easily is a good idea?

Quote from englishlord :

a jerky 30-40fps

So do you think when you go see a movie at a theater the movie is "jerky" because standard cinema frame rate is still 24 FPS unless you go see IMAX which then is only 48 FPS. This stupid bickering over frame rate and LFS performance is stupid. If you can't achieve decent FPS in a 12 year old simulator, UPGRADE YOUR HARDWARE.

If you can afford to buy a G27 or an Oculus Rift then you can afford to buy a decent graphics card. Stop making the developers waste time on new things like your poor performance related to outdated hardware.

@Lfs Devs. You can purchase an AMD FX CPU and a current generation NVIDIA graphics card that will gladly give you more than 100 FPS in LFS for really really cheap now. Stop catering to the few and start advancing this simulator that has been stalled of any major progress for years now.

Drift Or Cruise
Age:16
Country:England
Preferred Car/Track:Any i like a challange
Average Laptime on Your Preferred Car/Track:Not a speed driver i prefer sideways or realistic driving...
How Active Are You? Most days and nights... im a Hermit
What Kind of Control do you use? Xbox one or g27
Time Zone:GMT... London

LFS will always have a spot on my HDD, sadly recently been racing on iRacing, Assetto Corsa and sometimes Project Cars (AI seems pretty good for some offline racing). Just purchased a G27, possibly looking into getting a rig together and slowly get back into sim racing. Unfortunately with a 7 month old, wife and dog, seat time on the sim racing is not like what it used to be

Just other day, I booted up an old HDD and saw a couple screenshots of our old team, ART (Apex Racing Team). Brought back a lot of memories.

Hopefully S3 will be released before my daughter learns to drive

After 1.2.1 update I felt something is wrong with my G27 ffb
Found the fix - http://www.assettocorsa.net/fo ... are-now-drift-cars.25481/*second poster
*I use even more gain 90-95% - depends on the car

Quote from Matrixi :

Quote from Neilser :

Input lag: surely this isn't noticeable with vsync on, even at only 60Hz refresh?

It's easily noticeable, atleast on FFB wheels.

Not to mention VR headsets.

I use a G27. At 20fps (frame rate limited) I can certainly observe input lag. At 60 fps, I personally can't.

Quote from loopingz :

Yep input lag is mainly a monitor issue. It is impossible to feel if you are spectating but behind the wheel you will notice. Some monitors are above 100ms and it is way too much.

If you're spectating, there is NO input, so lag is impossible by definition, so I think I don't understand your point.

Quote from DANIEL-CRO :

1. Frame

(get wheel data)
-1. physics calc

2. Frame

(get wheel data)
-2. physics calc
-3. physics calc (same input data is used)

3. Frame
...

Thanks Daniel - nicely put. However, I would say that having multiple physics calcs with one input setting isn't by itself a problem; rather it's having too long between fresh fetches of the wheel data. I personally don't think 17ms (i.e. 60fps) is too long.

EDIT: why not get wheel/controller data and do the physics updates at the same rate? (100Hz right now, I believe.) That intuitively feels like the right thing to do. Reading the inputs each time the display updates seems... wrong. I would hope, perhaps incorrectly, that it's not a major code change. (I know this has been discussed in the past but a quick search didn't find me the threads in question.)

Last edited by Neilser, Thu 23 Jul 2015, 16:58.

LFS Name: iMS G27 Drift
Country: Morroco
Preferred Number: 7
License: Demo..
Drift Experience: more than 7years
Controller: Logitech G27
Availability: 24h/24h 7d/7d
TimeZone: GMT

Hey All,

I bought a G27 yesterday (previously running DFP).
My wheel is seen as a G25 by the sytem (Windows 7, 64bit).

I'm looking for the Logitech Wingman profiler, to start with a fresh install.

Unfortunately www.wingmanteam.com is gone (following this tutorial, that's where I the link: http://en.lfsmanual.net/wiki/Wheels#Correctly_setting_up_a_Logitech_Wheel)

Anyone has this insstallation file, or knows where I can get this?


(I've had about 10 years' break from LFS, if there's different software nowadays, please let me know)