It is logical that when the engine is hot, it’s hard to start with such high advance in low revs, for the reasons you have already mentioned. With already high temperature in the cylinders (after a spin that causes a stall), the combustion and the expansion of the gases happens much faster, comparing to a cold start.
So actually with that high advance you may not have problems in cold start, but in hot conditions it’s more likely that you have.
I think you are heading to the right direction by setting the advance lower at low rpms. Anyway you don’t need power down there.
Also richer air fuel mixture would help the combustion happen a bit later, hence the increased advance as you press the throttle.

Take a look to those older threads mister KiNG DoM
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=33943
http://www.lfsforum.net/showth ... &highlight=arab+drift
and if you search the words Arab drift you can find many more threads.

I can’t be bothered to write my opinion again.
Victoor, and other Arab “drifters” in LFS have already reached a descent level at video editing but it’s still the content that does not please us. Sorry…

Maybe you should see some proper race driving and some proper car controll while drifting, to see what LFS is all about.
"View and learn!" oh yeah...

Last edited by kaynd, Sat 19 Apr 2008, 00:37.

As I see the grid is already full so I’d like to join the waiting list.
Unfortunately I didn't have time to check this out earlier :ouch:

kaynd , kaynd

Even though the above general principles about ARB stated by Tristan are correct, we have to mention some inaccuracies that the LFS TLS model introduces, making the ARB bars not to have so accurate effects on FWD cars handling.
If you make a search you will find many refers to that problem.
Here is one of my last explanations to that effect.
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=769616#post769616

Well my only problem about iRacing is the price and still they don’t seem to be bothered about that factor.
I am really curious to see how this system is going to perform… and how long it will last.
It has to be something really groundbreaking new and well designed to last for long with that kind of pricing philosophy…

Or it is designed in that way so it can survive in a small market such us club racers that are interested in those very cars and tracks the game supports.

Quote from Ahriman4891 :

• The dude from iRacing really doesn't look like someone I'd like to work/do business with. Just not a likeable guy.

Now that's a usefull comment illepall

Quote from Glenn67 :

What the aim of the extreme high ARB whichever end it is on is to cause one wheel to lift on turn in (turning towards the appex under braking) thus causing oversteer when you would expect understeer.

It’s causing oversteed only when you apply throttle and that because of the high power locking factor of the diff.

The problem here is the tire physics that allow the outside tire hold such a high amount of pressure giving the appropriate grip so you don't need the inside tire at all...

I have tried many times to make a FWD setup with a proper amount of overseer in both springs and ARB.
In that situation both front wheels work together (still the ouside is way more loaded but there is sufficient load on the inside too) but the grip you have on corner exit is clearly lower than what you have when you fully load the front outside tire with a hard front ARB... despite the "understeer" you get at corner entry... (the grip generated buy the inside tire is not enough to replace the lost grip by the less loaded outside tire (cause of the softer front end) and that’s not the way it really is IRL…)

The tire model lacks attention on the load sensitivity curves and unfortunately this is greatly spotted on the fwd cars because simply by accelerating you unload the front wheels making that great force transfer that the front ARB causes to the front outside wheel really advantageous on the corner exit…

I thought that when you choose progressive scan there is no need for any Interpolation, or any other settings that affect the fields.

I think you should experiment with these settings although I think that “none” will be ok

Use progressive scan and you are going to be ok

Btw great fight and realy nice video

Ι think it’s ok but lets here what others have to say.
Bigtime - squidhead - Mp3 Astra -blackbird0 where are you? say something

Yeah more is better for sure but I think at least 10min long with 5 cars is a good start.

Squidhead what say you? 5 cars is a bit too much for a drift replay (the replay action choise is free?) though. He might have a different opinion in that.

Last edited by kaynd, Tue 8 Apr 2008, 23:33.

Define what kind of replay must be posted.
min length, least number of cars, etc

I say a replay must be at least 15min long with hmm lets say at least 10 cars?
Or less? What do you say?


Or there is no need to do that at all?

Hmm maybe if I can get inspired by that replay I will give it a try making a movie.
That’s a good motivation


I don't think I have any good replay to share though and I don't think that replays with just teammates action is what we need here... this is not going to be a team promo I quess

The helicam was not bad in generall. It could be better having more zoom to the action and being better controlled by hand, not just following a car.
The same applies to any default camera.

Just to clarify that, camera decisions weren’t completely wrong, the video could be better with some more effort.

Squid is allergic to standard (game's default) cameras. (helicopter cam, car following cam , drivers eye cam etc)

Well the shots might not be great but they are enough to transfer the tense of the battle.
Nice action

Nice ideas man. I liked the transitions.
It’s hard work that skin changing trick cause you have to record anything twice and then overlay the vids.
It’s ok with standard cameras but by using shift + U it is really a pain to get it right…



RIP to the casualties

Yeah it just happens, it’s not necessarily connected to something else.
It’s just the human mind that tends to believe strange things.

Lool nice chair
Have you made the proper physics calculations so it can hold a human on it?

In any kind of program (ok mayby not on high level-user friendly programing suites) you define what kind of data you are going to give. But this is way too easy to not be understood by someone who is interested about how a cpu handles that.

Maybe I don't get your question?

Last edited by kaynd, Sat 29 Mar 2008, 09:13.

Silly me
I am on a pc with 56k connection these days and I just give a quick look at threads - posts so I must have missed that bit.
And I was wondering how can it be only 300k

I hope this report wasn't complete waste of time

Last edited by kaynd, Tue 25 Mar 2008, 13:38.

Yes it does that with any set, even with defaults.

I did try to load vehicle data before loading a setup for that car, but then again an other error message appears, this time from win, “AppName: vhpa.exe AppVer: 3.1.0.2 ModName: oleaut32.dll
ModVer: 5.1.2600.2180 Offset: 00004cb4”

Also it freezes by just loading FOX vehicle data. Error message “Run time error – Overflow”

Did you try to download the files you have attached? maybe there is something missing?
Or I just have problems with my hardware setup?? Tomorrow I will be in front of my main pc so I will test it there again.
(btw older VHPA vertions work fine here )


Anyway attached a setup but if any other setup works with your VHPA vertion, then I guess this is going to load fine too.

Last edited by kaynd, Tue 25 Mar 2008, 09:35.

I hope it's an easy one.

When I try to open any setup file, I get an error message from the app “run time error – Subscript out of range”

Upload them on youtube for low ress and the high ress somewhere else eg filefront or even crapidshare and megauload…

Veoh has good image quality but realy low FPS (only 15)
divxvine says “Sorry, downloads have been disabled for a few days”
lfsvideo takes ages to load (I get 5-20 kb/sec from there)
And I haven’t figured out how hostmedia works… but there is no way I will install any add on from any site of this kind in order to play a vid.

So I only saw the veoh vertion and some sec from lfsvideo…

Nice image quality, effects and editing in generall. also I like the music.
It’s just the car banger-racing content that doesn’t interest me.

Nice vid overall.
As for the low frame rate it’s hard to tell if it is the creators’s fault because veoh streams the video in 15fps…

:eek:

There are tons of videos out there using copyrighted music how they can be bothered with LFS videos.
Some touchy viewer must have reported your video.:doh:


Don't have any infos about that but I will have it in mind (already searching)

The database you are taking about should appear here but I haven’t found anything really useful yet..
http://www.mpa.org/

Last edited by kaynd, Mon 10 Mar 2008, 17:16.

Good job as always.
I think that you should watch how often you use rolled cameras because in some shots it doesn’t fit.

As for the music licensing for public use in videos etc it’s a hard bit.
I think it’s not the same to buy a license for yourself as you do in I-tunes