Quote from lrk-racer :

I agree Bose. CSR is a great wheel, I upgraded from G25 to CSR and it gave me the ride of my life. Not going to say its better than a G27 as I have never tried one, but I am sure it is.

yeah g25 and the g27 are pretty much the same.

I agree Bose. CSR is a great wheel, I upgraded from G25 to CSR and it gave me the ride of my life. Not going to say its better than a G27 as I have never tried one, but I am sure it is.

stick with g27, CSR is bad.

I have a CSR laying around. IMO it's way better than a Logitech G27 (also have that one). Recently a few of my friends also switched from a G27 to a CSR, and they have not a second of regret.

I have a logitech g27, but i want a replacement. What would you guys suggest?
i was thinking about a Fanatec CSR, anyone have one?

Thanks for the response. I checked that setting and it was already set to the G27. I also shut down the PC and then booted back up with the G27 as the only game controller (I also have an Xbox controller, which I've usually been unplugging when I plug in the wheel, but I made sure it was unplugged starting at boot this time).

Still can't get any force feedback though. It's a mystery...

Quote from Gabkicks :

it is: what is that for?

It writes a memory file which can be used by applications to read telemetry information from the game, which can then be used to display it somewhere. It's used for Fanaleds for example.

Do you have any Fanatec wheels, or a G27 (does it have native support in pCars?) near you?

Hi,

I'm using a Logitech G27 and CSR Elite pedals. I have them set up and working in a bunch of other racing sims (iRacing, rF1 and 2, etc.), but I'm having problems trying out LFS for the first time. I have the Logitech Profiler working and set to the typical settings.

When I start the game, I have no FFB at all. The Control settings say "two controllers detected". (They don't mention anything about a "G27" specifically, though.) I'm able to get both the steering and pedals to work (pedals show up as RX, RY, RZ axes).

I've seen screenshots where you have a choice of which controller to send the FFB to, but that's not appearing on my screen.

If I unplug the wheel and plug it back in while the game is running, the FFB does start working, but then the degrees of rotation are locked at a very small value (about 200 deg). If I alt-tab out to the Logitech Profiler and then come back, the rotation is back to 900 but the FFB is gone again.

In my first search I saw something about assigning the controller number in the device manager, but I can't find it again...maybe relevant?

Thanks for any help.

Are you using the correct profiler version? You can re-download the software from the logitech site and see if makes a difference...

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/support/game-gear

Select the G27, select downloads, select the correct OS and 64 bit and download the software. Reinstall and see if it works...

Hello from finland! I have one little problem with my g27. I cant open logitech gaming profiler because it doesn't not recognize the g27. And by that, it means i can't use my clutch/h-shifter/brake in lfs and i can't change the rotation of wheel (from 270 to 900) ;_;

Please, somebody help me! I want to play lfs

PS. Im using windows 7 64-bit. i tryed uninstalling it and reinstalling it. Didn't work. And when im trying to install logitech gaming profiler, it doesnt even ask me to plug the controller in. The screen that shows me to plug the controller in just pops in my screen for 1second and then it disappears, and after that it shows that the install is done. But it isnt still working.

Sorry for my bad english, im from finland :P

Edit: I reinstalled windows 7, and now it works :P looks like i messed some things when i was trying to istall a wrong version D

Last edited by petteri88, Wed 20 Mar 2013, 00:38.

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Last edited by DavidTiger, Tue 19 Mar 2013, 03:19.

LFS G27 Mirror Onboard Drift
I accepted the challenge again.

LFS - Mouse Onboard Twin
Simple Onboard twin.

oops bump...

had this problem for a while now, occurs at full throttle, hasnt really bothered me but i've emailed logitech in hope of a replacement (as i've seen others in this thread receiving g27's)

Quote from DarkKostas :

Looks like we've got some progress
Using DirectInput and setting the right delay(i think it's the RPM one as it's under the rpm states) under 16, makes the wheel accept only the first ffb effect(go left) and then it keeps staying there idle. While still running, if i increase it by one click from 15 back to 16, it makes the FFB work again.

Good luck!

Great, thank you for the test. Do I understand correctly that when the LED commands are being sent faster than 16 msecs apart, FFB dies? Does this happen regardless of which LEDs are on/off? This is however obviously a driver bug. I guess it has something to do with the way Logitech drivers queue hardware commands that are sent to the wheel because people were experiencing some odd FFB behavior even with the 1.0x series. It might be interesting to capture the USB traffic and see what is the wheel actually told do to.

Anyway, I'll reintroduce the command rate limit and make it configurable which would hopefully resolve this.

As you have a G27, you might want to consider reporting this to Logitech. I'm pretty sure this is something the have to either fix or at least make developers aware of.

Quote from Bose321 :

Not to hijack your thread, but there's an alternative to this for G27 users. Fanaleds recently added G27 support, which also has support to 30 games. It might be easier for people to use because there's a GUI etc. which should be less difficult for those not so tech-heavy people under us.

https://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=79273
http://www.fanaleds.com

@MadCatX, If you do mind I'll remove this post.

It's good that you made people aware of an alternative, I guess not many players would figure out that Fanaleds has extended its support to G27.

My mod is aimed specifically at LFS and it's much simpler it its nature. It requires no actual installation and I believe it's as configurable and easy to use as Fanaleds.

Fanaleds is a great choice for people who play a lot of racing games and want to get as much out of their hardware as possible. There is also a technical difference between my mod and Fanaleds. Although my mod proxies dinput8.dll, it uses official method of controlling the LEDs. Fanaleds hacks around the necessity of proxying DirectInput calls by using HID API - you basically have two drivers fighting over the wheel. I'm sure you have tested this to make sure it doesn't cause any trouble, but I believe your users should be aware of this. If an incorrect hardware command is sent to a device, it can in extreme cases cause hardware damage.

Not to hijack your thread, but there's an alternative to this for G27 users. Fanaleds recently added G27 support, which also has support to 30 games. It might be easier for people to use because there's a GUI etc. which should be less difficult for those not so tech-heavy people under us.

https://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=79273
http://www.fanaleds.com

@MadCatX, If you do mind I'll remove this post.

Last edited by Bose321, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 09:27.

What kind of team are you looking for? (Race, Drift, Cruise, Drag or other) Race
Age: 20
Country: Croatia
Preferred Car/Track: Car : FXR/FZR - Track: Any
Average Laptime on Your Preferred Car/Track: Solid
How Active Are You? Online and racing every day
What Kind of Control do you use? Steering Wheel MOMO ( Soon G27 )
Time Zone: +1

Could be your technique, might help to post a video of how your trying to drift.

i have FFB enabled and my wheel certainly doesnt stop in the center, and that doesnt happen in real life either.

so if you post a video, might be easier to see the issue happen doing figure 8s and showing us how it stops mid transition.

You can try to go straight and do a handbrake turn, and let go of the wheel after you turn in, it just stops in the center?
ive uploaded a video of myself showing how mine behaves. is it similar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... rFK4&feature=youtu.be

like everyone says, sorry for the crappy video capture, just did the quickly, but you can see after i let go the wheel countersteers to the left after i try turning right.

Since the thread is asking about setups, ill share mine.
I am using a g27 at 900degrees with 100 ffb (and pretty much everything else at 100.
I havent bothered tweaking them yet, so i dont even know if this is optimal.
ingame ffb is set at 90.

Last edited by immense, Sun 10 Mar 2013, 15:17.

Quote from ZanBarBone :

Hello guys.

I'm quite new to this game and wanted to ask something. Whenever i try to drift, my Logitech g27 acts weird, i think.
Basically whenever i turn the wheel and then release it, letting it spin back, it only comes back to the center, and not to the other side. That way the car doesn't really counter steer.

In all the youtube videos, of people drifting in lfs with a g27, i've seen, the wheel couter steers, while mine stops at the center

In the video below, once the guy releases the wheel it spins the other direction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugLuqipotL8

Another example of what i want to have

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuy7Xnt8YN4

Is there a way to get mine to do the same in the setups somewhere?


Thanks.

Well, a real car's steering wheel will always try to go back to center when releasing it. You have to do the countersteering, the G27 won't.

If you disable FFB and center spring, you will get what he is doing. But he is using the wheel's momentum to throw it in the other direction, the wheel isn't doing it by itself...

You can also just pull the power plug on your G27, will do the same.

Hello guys.

I'm quite new to this game and wanted to ask something. Whenever i try to drift, my Logitech g27 acts weird, i think.
Basically whenever i turn the wheel and then release it, letting it spin back, it only comes back to the center, and not to the other side. That way the car doesn't really counter steer.

In all the youtube videos, of people drifting in lfs with a g27, i've seen, the wheel couter steers, while mine stops at the center

In the video below, once the guy releases the wheel it spins the other direction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugLuqipotL8

Another example of what i want to have

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuy7Xnt8YN4

Is there a way to get mine to do the same in the setups somewhere?


Thanks.

thx for the help Jinja Jorj the car seems to naturally understeer wide out of T1 i think its setup thing because as you said its made for eft hand side drivers and i'm on the right which is what i've always had in the back of my mind but wasn't sure how much of a difference it made but i guessit would when you sit on the left and the setup is based aruond that + its setup to use for a mouse and i'm using a G27 steering wheel dunno if it makes much difference though, but every little bit helps i'll try your set over the next 2 days and see how i go

What kind of team are you looking for? Beginner / Race
Age: 22
Country: Finland
Preferred Car/Track: RB4, XRG, XRT, GT cars.
Average Laptime on Your Preferred Car/Track: I still get my ass beat by the "Pro"-AI on every track, except rallycross.
How Active Are You? I try to be on every day for an hour or two.
What Kind of Control do you use? G27
Time Zone: GMT+2

currently trying to find an easy setup for the rb4 or xrt, so I can aim for consistant lap times.

Why is the plastic still on your G27's logo...

Haha nice. I bet it's better than a G27.

Quote from pärtan :

My friend have a fanatec wheel. Not sure which one (it doesn't have the orange casing but it's got the porsche wheel on it). He's been trying and trying to get responsive yet non wobbly force feedback settings on his wheel. He says that the only way some people have fixed it is to use Logitech drivers but that it didn't work for him. I base my dislike for Fanatec on my friends experiences with it.

With the proper settings, the G25 (and G27 for that matter) have a very linear and mechanical feel to the FFB response and stability. It doesn't start wobbling at high speeds and it's still right on target angle within a very short amount of time (even on high force settings).

The G25 also have versatile components for different kinds of sim-rig applications. Each individual pedal for instance is it's own component made out of sturdy metal and with pre-drilled and threaded holes they can easily be mounted on different pedal frames (if you want reverse mount pedals that is)

Negatives about the G25 or G27. The biggest downside of the G25 is the loud noise it makes, which is reduced in the G27 with the helical cut gears. Some people have also had problems with their shifters, certain gears won't engage properly. I have no experience with this problem what so ever. I guess it's a matter of bad luck. If you get a faulty shifter, maybe you can get it replaced?

Spiking and flickering in the pedals is another thing. My pedals do that occasionally. I then disassemble and reassemble the pedal which takes about one minute and it's good for another month of active driving. Keep in mind that the potentiometers of my pedals are exposed to dust since I have them reverse mounted. That might be the cause of this.

I've brutally abused my G25 for about 3-4 years (can't remember exactly when I got it but I've been playing quite actively all around this time with a couple of breaks). I've been drifting a lot with it and my drifting style isn't exactly easy on the wheel, so to speak. I've also taken apart all the components as I've done mods. I've also lubed the wheel once.

I love the FFB, versatility in the design and it does what it's supposed to do for a long time (in my case). I dislike the cable management (which I've modded to suit my liking), the loud noise which is fixed with the G27 anyways, and that's about it.

Final words, I love my G25. I think it's a great wheel. There are certain aspects that I just need which the G25 and G27 provides. I bought my G25 when there was no Fanatec around (at least I don't think). My friend seemed to like his Fanatec as he bought it so I'm sure it's a good quality wheel. However, he haven't been able to get it setup properly with FFB (not sure it's even possible) and it's just less versatile to modify to your liking from what I understand..

Would I take a Fanatec over a G27? No way, but it's up to you and what you're looking for in the wheel.

So basically, you like everything you changed in your wheel.

PS: I've had my g27 for atleast 2 yrs and never had to disassemble the pedals, compressed air did the trick.

G27. Fanatec sucks.