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Quote from amp88 :Without describing the process the amount of time and knowledge it takes to be able to modify cars in AC is very low at the moment.

Even I can accomplish it.
Quote from amp88 :To be clear, we're talking about cheating on the LFS World hotlap rank, right?




Yes
Quote from BlueFlame :Yes

So, the part of the process of validation that's done automatically on LFS World to make sure the replay is of a genuine lap wouldn't be able to detect if a grip hack tool (or similar) had been used at the time the replay was recorded? You're saying that it would only be able to detect (through "JOOS - CAR", for example) changes that the player had made to the car model? If that is what you're saying, do you have any proof of that assertion?
Quote from BlueFlame :Very wrong. LFS has no 3rd party detection. It can only detect if something in the game has been altered. Grip mod etc is undetectable.

Plus the multitude of LFS 3rd party shizzle for people there to use is alot different to AC where if you were that adamant on cheating you'd have to code or make some kind of cheat yourself.

Are yousaying you've used grip hacks in LFS? Or someone else?
Quote from amp88 : If that is what you're saying, do you have any proof of that assertion?

If you're talking about proof valid to others then no but personal proof yes.


And Ray, what I'm saying is that I was sick of seeing MARUS bust everyones WR's and went on HL mode with some hacks to see if its possible and it is.
Quote from BlueFlame :And Ray, what I'm saying is that I was sick of seeing MARUS bust everyones WR's and went on HL mode with some hacks to see if its possible and it is.

So, to be clear, you used some form of hack (e.g. a grip hack), you uploaded the .spr to LFS World hotlaps and the lap was considered valid by LFS World? If so, when did this happen and can you provide a copy of the replay, please?
Quote from BlueFlame :If you're talking about proof valid to others then no but personal proof yes.


And Ray, what I'm saying is that I was sick of seeing MARUS bust everyones WR's and went on HL mode with some hacks to see if its possible and it is.

So we should trust you arent hacking online too? Nice to know considering your teammate has admitted to accidentally doing this
Quote from amp88 :So, to be clear, you used some form of hack (e.g. a grip hack), you uploaded the .spr to LFS World hotlaps and the lap was considered valid by LFS World? If so, when did this happen and can you provide a copy of the replay, please?

I didn't upload the replay. I was under the impression that the main body of the 'cheat protection' was done via the game .exe itself rather than lfsworld web coding.

I also don't have the replay as I'm on a new system now and all that shizzle was expendable so when I formatted my harddrive to put in my new system all the replays went with it. (i'm not really a sentimental person anyway).


Trust whoever you want Ray. My times aren't setting the world on fire. So you should be pretty sure I'm not using any 3rd party software.

Regarding cheating these are the people that avoid a challenge at all costs but with LFS in particular it's a sim that I've never been quick at but I'm addicted to it because of the challenge it gives to me. That would be ruined by cheating of any kind.
Quote from BlueFlame :I didn't upload the replay. I was under the impression that the main body of the 'cheat protection' was done via the game .exe itself rather than lfsworld web coding.

Totally useless. Why did you think I specifically mentioned checks done on LFS World before? Just because you managed to get grip_h4x.exe working locally means absolutely nothing when it comes to cheating the actual hotlap rankings (which I've been talking about from the start and you agreed with me that that's what we were talking about).
Quote from amp88 :Totally useless. Why did you think I specifically mentioned checks done on LFS World before? Just because you managed to get grip_h4x.exe working locally means absolutely nothing when it comes to cheating the actual hotlap rankings (which I've been talking about from the start and you agreed with me that that's what we were talking about).

Well for the most part a hotlap is invalidated in the game itself first before it even goes to lfsworld.
Quote from BlueFlame :Well for the most part a hotlap is invalidated in the game itself first before it even goes to lfsworld.

That in no way is a valid response to my post. Please would you bloody read things? Why do you think I was specifically mentioning LFS World as a source of validation?
Quote from amp88 :That in no way is a valid response to my post. Please would you bloody read things? Why do you think I was specifically mentioning LFS World as a source of validation?

Especially when all LFS really cares about for validation is surfaces and collision.
Well that's a fair point. I can see why you feel I ignored you but still. I honestly don't believe lfsworld even stops people.

That's the trouble with online racing in general. We don't have LAN events like they do with CS;GO and other games which filter out the hackers as they turn out to be really shit at LAN events but amazingly good online but it's a bit silly to say 'well being fastest means nothing, there's cheaters about' because it applies now, and it will always apply. Besides, my l49 time at Magione was beaten and Darren Marsh isn't far away either.
Quote from amp88 :That in no way is a valid response to my post. Please would you bloody read things? Why do you think I was specifically mentioning LFS World as a source of validation?

Are you trying to suggest for him to use his brain and actually read? Get real mate.
Quote from CrAZySkyPimp :Are you trying to suggest for him to use his brain and actually read? Get real mate.

This ain't the iRacing thread. bb
Thank you for exactly for proving my point
Quote from CrAZySkyPimp :Thank you for exactly for proving my point

Ok you can have the last word. I allow you to have it.
Bawbag definitely used grip hacks, he even used them when we happened to be karting in Falkirk at the same time the bastard!
Quote from deko :bawbag definitely used grip hacks, he even used them when we happened to be karting in falkirk at the same time the bastard!

haha
Quote from BlueFlame :...






Had a go at this last night - really struggled to warm to it though. I suspect more than anything it's just being out of practice at sims though (the layer of dust was thick on my G25, I think its been 3 years since it was last used) - I seemed to continually reach the apex, let off the brake and then just suddenly start wildly understeering with no extra steering or any power. First sim (excluding LFS) where drifting has felt very natural though.

The old Lotus F1 car reminds me a lot of GPL - even down to the dodgy gear stick animation and the way the body rises up from the wheels when you hit the accelerator!
Anyone knows to corespondence between LFS FOV and AC FOV ?

I have used the ingame app to congifure my view for AC and it gave me a 35 deg FOV.. very strange at first.. but after some getting use to it, I kinda like it.. seems more real, and definitely can see curves better.
So, was thinking to try an equivalent in LFS and see how it is.
Quote from luchian :Anyone knows to corespondence between LFS FOV and AC FOV ?

LFS uses horizontal FOV where AC uses vertical FOV (AFAIK).

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