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nihil
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Anyway, talking about car crash media stories (and I bet Kerry Katona is loving Brand and Wossy right now), how about this for news?
nihil
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Quote from 5haz :
I also don't understand what all the fuss is about,

There are a lot of narcissistic wankers in Britain who have just walked off, laughing, with a great deal of public money. Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross don't actually work in The City, and haven't actually screwed the public purse to quite the same extent, or in quite the same way, but its a close enough resemblance for some people.

Mostly people (Daily Mail readers) who have yet to admit their own complicity in creating the bubble that has just burst.
nihil
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Quote from JamesF1 :

As an aside: I do find it amusing (as has been mentioned above), that tolerance is 'preached' by most in this thread, but only if it excludes people who disagree with your viewpoint...

Being tolerant means allowing people to express an opinion, no matter how stupid. Telling them exactly how stupid they are is called 'education'.
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Quote from STROBE :
I can't be the only one to have noticed that making such phonecalls is actually illegal. If you or I did this we would get arrested under the Telecommunications Act 1984 or the Protection from Harassment Act 1997. Why should it be any different for a pair of overpaid narcissistic twats?

While that sounds very upright and law-abiding of you, methinks you might be taking the piss a little...

Quote from STROBE :Gotta love Fonejacker. The new series is a bit hit and miss, but there's some classics from the first series. My favourite is the "flat to rent" automated line.

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=957552#post957552

Anyway, I thought the whole thing was quite funny... Has anyone actually listened to it? Go on, since they've made it so public, you might as well listen in to what the Great British public gets so upset about...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=U7IHJ66wj9g
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nihil
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Over £82,000 raised (and still rising by the minute...). Looks like this will become a national campaign.

http://www.atheistcampaign.org/
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Quote from thisnameistaken :

Now, why Hamilton is a cock could potentially be an interesting topic.

Why? Here's a quote from a review of Vic Elford's biography:

Quote :Consider Vic’s 1968 season. It began with his win in the prestigious Monte Carlo Rally followed by a win the next weekend in the Daytona 24 Hours. He was second at Sebring a month later, then in May scored an epic victory at the Targa Florio, which is considered the greatest win in Targa history. Two weeks later Vic won the Nürburgring 1000 Kilometers. Then in his first F1 race in July Vic took a badly out-classed Cooper T86B to a stunning fourth-place finish in the soaking-wet French Grand Prix.

To my knowledge, no world class driver could claim such diversity these days. Hamilton's problem is that the excitement he generates reminds us how insipid F1 (or maybe even the world in general) really is these days. He reminds us of a lot names belonging to mostly dead, young men, and we're not sure how to deal with what we actually want from our sport. Can anyone really be 'legendary' in the same sense as the legends we inevitably compare them to?
nihil
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Its a fact of life: people that get to the top of anything these days tend to be ... er... difficult to get on with. Fully rounded, agreeable people tend to think about the consequences of their actions for too long to get to the front of the queue.

Frankly, for a young man in the spotlights of the F1 circus, Lewis Hamilton is a remarkably 'nice guy'. I'm intrigued by him. His 'facing the public' persona is slightly annoying, since it plays to everything we hate about F1. He's an unruffled, team player, who's appreciative of his boss. A corporate cocksucker in other words.

But his driving style says something else. He's happy to let the car move around, he's a bit impulsive, a bit of a risk taker. At the same time as the plainly coached persona says "contemporary, globalised business", his driving says "scary sport in which people die".

I think people are reacting quite unconsciously to this contradiction in Hamilton.
nihil
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Quote from 5haz :....global warming is a LIE anyway....

The fact that the climate is changing is fairly undeniable, but the concentration on 'saving' the earth is at best, similar to birds pecking at the ground as a way of dealing with an alarming situation.

Ultimately, all human environmental problems are social, political, and economic problems. The real challenge is to dismantle our economic assumptions, and create societies that no longer rely on the somewhat simplistic illusion that everything can be solved by the ideal of infinite growth.
nihil
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Quote from STROBE :

Guess which of those is physically impossible to achieve when driving at 120mph at night?

Physically impossible? You are rather overstating the case for the purposes of (melo)dramatic effect.
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Quote from tristancliffe :

So yeah. Occasionally I'm wreckless on the roads and potentially with other people's lives. But they take a risk by walking near a road themselves... I'm more than happy to suffer a citizens' arrest, but you'll have to catch me first

Tristan speaks sense in thread full of pomposity.

I walked past a school gate this morning. If I'd had an AK47, and my finger on the trigger, and a clear sight of some primary school aged bodies, there could have been a hell of a mess. I'd have been sad.

But I didn't, it wasn't, and no one was around. HOORAY! No dead children. BOO! We can go and have anxiety attacks about something else now...
nihil
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Quote from flymike91 :Traffic cameras are not a "bad direction" .

I disagree ... Gatsos are the advanced guard of an automated system of justice. This is highly undesirable: once guilt is determined by which side of an arbitrary threshold you happen to find yourself on, then the particularities of a situation can be conveniently forgotten, and the right to "due process" is eroded even further.

Due process is an essential element of any proper system of justice, and its fundamental role is precisely to protect the people from the excesses of law and government. Automated penalty systems do not improve justice; they weaken it.
nihil
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Quote from mcintyrej :

Its simple really - if your paranoid that your going to be arrested then stop breaking the law.


Sorry to break this to you, but its your dad who leaves that money under the pillow when a tooth falls out.
nihil
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Quote from wsinda :I think he meant Peugeot. They often have (had?) Pininfarina designs.

Indeed this is true; I have one, a peugeot 405. Strange and subtle design: boxy from some angles, curvaceous from others. I've never lived with a single car for so long (had it for over three years now), and I'm not bored with it yet.
nihil
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Quote from mcintyrej :

You should only be worried if your doing things wrong.

And in a single sentence you sum up everything that is despicable about this neurotic and conservative era where obedience is confused with virtue.

Are you not even going to ask what a 'wrong' is? If not, then you don't deserve the flesh you walk in.
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Quote from MAGGOT :

The Déesse is disgustingly ugly, imho,

You're entitled to an opinion, even if its wrong.

Don't think Pininfarina ever designed for Bugatti, though I'm willing to be corrected on that point.
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Quote from MAGGOT :The french can't design a car that is actually attractive.

I'd have a "déesse" outside my front door quite happily. Or a renault alpine. And Bugatti was basically a French company.
nihil
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My car is a crap heap... Its French though; its meant to decay elegantly.
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Quote from Stefani24 :cause u have the right to kick/ban everyone you want,

Having the right to do something offensive doesn't make you any less of a tosser for doing it.
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Quote from thisnameistaken :This isn't a serious suggestion. Anyone who takes five seconds to consider the practicalities of it will realise it isn't a serious suggestion.

Yeah, as I pointed out earlier there seems to be a sense of humour failure in this thread, a surprising amount of bile that deserves a "hang on a minute, where's that coming from?" moment...

Personally, I like meat. I have no problems with killing animals for food and feel that the world would be a better place if people had a greater connection to that process, a more sensual appreciation of what it means to prepare that stuff in the supermarket.

In actual fact PETA have done that with a simple verbal trick. By replacing "cow" with "human" the entire process of manufacture and consumption has been laid open to a fresh perspective and your response has been disgust.

Quite impressive really. I still like meat though....
nihil
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Sense of humour failure? This is hilarious. Maybe someone was serious about the idea, maybe not... I don't know yet, but this reminds me of 'A Modest Proposal'
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Quote from Doorman :I don't know why you're all getting so worked up about it. It's not a sport, it's an entertainment!

Quite the most prescient comment here. In the previous thread someone mentioned that were F1 to be serious about the sporting side of its business, then it wouldn't allow the pressure of the TV schedule to declare a winner until the stewards decisions were properly ratified.

The very simple answer to all this is that Hamilton deserved a penalty according the rules, but the rules have been applied in such a way as to warp the final outcome of the race quite absurdly.

F1 is entertainment, I just don't think its very funny subjecting everyone to this kind of bureaucratic nonsense.
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Quote from Psysim :Embarrassingly and sadly flymike, our so call country of freedom is not that good. ....... Where is our freedom?

So what is patriotism? A love of country.

What is my country? A constructed boundary defined by a ruling class.

So ... now do you see where your freedom went?
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Quote from DeadWolfBones :I've seen bits of Gummo, but I'm really not a fan of Korine. He shoots beautiful images but as a storyteller he's total crap IMO. I should probably give him more of a chance.

I really like Gummo and don't really get those reviews that say it has no narrative. Its a beautiful film; gentle and sympathetic at the same time as it lingers uncomfortably on its observations. Of course, they're not really observations at all, but constructions, which adds to the ambivalence...

I like films shot on location, films that become infused with their environment, confuse documentary and fiction. Films that are open about being shot from a slightly ****ed up anthropological perspective. Contaminated and contaminating.

Saw Cockfighter the other night and its right in the centre of this idiom, as well as being on that border between exploitation and avant-garde, (produced by Roger Corman). Its directed by Monte Hellman (Two Lane Blacktop - and if you haven't seen that, then why have you been wasting time with anything else?).

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=emJ70KhpZGA
nihil
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This one is a bit better (think you might just want to turn the sound down though....)
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