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nihil
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Quote from tristancliffe : I'd be cross if I got knocked out after the first round, so I'm sure most of you would too. But a 2hr 'endurance' race is a long time to keep still and concentrate,

The heats worked well last time out... You don't miss out as a slower driver, since the faster ten race each other and the slower ten race each other. So, as a mid pack racer you actually get the chance to win something....
nihil
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Quote from Dajmin :

Talking on the phone is different to talking in-person because the fact you're using a device makes it more prominent in your mind,

More than that, in talking to a passenger, you are talking to someone in the same physical space. What my other examples show is the way that talking on a phone takes you out of that space into another space that is very different to your immediate surroundings.
nihil
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....oh yes, I forgot... Don't use a hands free kit while you're walking. Everyone thinks you forgot to take your Olanzapine. And if you have one of those bluetooth headset things... Take it off when you get out of the car. Everyone knows you have a shit job so you don't need to display a public reminder.
nihil
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Quote from Michael Denham :but it makes me wonder how we got to thinking like this.

Exactly.

Other things that you shouldn't do whilst on the phone:

Stand at a pedestrian crossing
Look around you. Every car going by is expecting you to step out at any moment. Some even stop and wait for you to cross whilst you jabber pointlessly into the ether.

Buy things
Pay up or get out of the queue, you annoying little prick.

Sell things
Look, if I'm going to give you my money, then I expect you to at least look me in the eye. You don't even have to say anything like "Thank you", or "Cold for this time of year isn't it?", just don't chat to your mate as if I'm a distraction you could do without.

Watch films at the cinema
This is your last warning. Do it again and I'll push a ballpoint pen as far as it will go into your other ear.

Play MP3s
Music was never meant to be worn like a vest, or used as a way of sealing you off from the outside world, but at least a walkman kept your crappy taste in music private. Buy a set of headphones you cheapskate.

I'm sure there's more....
nihil
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Quote from Woz :

Only thing I keep doing is forgetting which lap I am on in longer races

LFSpitboard:
http://www.lfsforum.net/showth ... 1&highlight=pitboards
nihil
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Quote :At the other end is racing mini's at a tight circuit...

Sounds interesting... Wonder which sim they're using for that?

Anyway, I think he's right about the practice thing and its a good reason to stay away from suggesting LFS. I don't have any time to practice at the moment and won't really be interested in competing against nineteen other people who will spend every night til the 25th slugging car 'X' round configuration 'Y', burning the whole thing into muscle memory.

I'm tempted to suggest Snetterton just for the minor comedy value of seeing Tristan journey all the the way to Southampton to race at a local circuit (albeit time shifted back to a sixties configuration), but actually 65 cars at Snetterton might be great fun...
nihil
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25th is fine by me. GPL is fine by me too.
nihil
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likes: snow
dislikes: cold
wants: hot snow
nihil
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Quote from Gunn :You're so hurt over someone else's tastes or opinions, it's just weird.

Geezer... I was just taking the piss, being as dismissive as you were. No hurt involved.

But come on, an opinion may be subjective, but that doesn't mean you can print vague, spurious, and irrational nonsense and expect people not to laugh at you.

For example:

"Rap is only poetry"
"Rap is no better than a kid crying for an ice cream over and over and over"

Uh... so if Rap is poetry then poetry is childish? Or is it just that all rap is childish poetry? Or are both statements so sweeping as to be meaningless?
nihil
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Quote from Gunn :

Rap is no better than a kid crying for an ice cream over and over and over.

Dismissive and way too simplistic, but no worries, since you and your brethren have chosen to miss out on some great stuff. No one else's problem but your own. I don't have time to point out the whys and wherefores, but if you consider that rap has its roots in poetry (another extremely wide category), you might also be able to figure out why I just don't have time to point out where you are going wrong.

Awww, feeling a bit generous.... Maybe its the time of year, but I'll help you narrow the field down a little bit... Start with the Last Poets and work your way out from there...

To add a bit of balance to my post, I reckon there's probably a decent cultural studies essay to be written on how Hip Hop (and Rap) has been appropriated and developed into an agent of American cultural imperialism. The pervasiveness of the genres has definitely become a double-edged sword.
nihil
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Quote from Bob Smith :From reading their site/forums, it still seems they're still only using GPL. :|

A grid of 65s at Monza would be a great race, even for those who've never driven GPL before.
nihil
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Quote from tristancliffe :

What to do? Are both the kids planning on playing too, or are they just coming to watch (silly question I know, but it's best to be sure).


No, sensible question.... As I remember, Bozo's sprogs were very young, but quite keen on driving the Elise around Silverstone (GTR)! Start a reserve list, 'cause people are bound to drop out....

BTW: January 25th and GPL would be my preference, but happy to go with anything...
nihil
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You need a decent backmarker.... Count me in if you still have space.
nihil
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I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me.
Hunter S Thompson

Just reading through some of these replies, and I can't see why some people get so worked up about the subject. Is the concept of individual choice so alien, so complex?

Drugs are a technology, they are a tool, and they have their uses and misuses. I knew someone who was killed by a fridge door. Does that mean I will never put ice in my drink again, that I will only consider food storage options that don't involve white goods? Similarly, my girlfriend finds life intense enough without stoking it up with some skunk. Does that make us terminally incompatible?

These questions are absurd, but there is one stone hard truth that is unavoidable: prohibition creates crime. It creates desire and it creates the opportunistic moments in which to exploit that desire. Sure, the law will attempt to ameliorate its own power to produce criminals by arresting and punishing 'criminals', but it's guaranteed that the law will not be applied universally and equally.
nihil
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Quote from bandaid :but I am definately leaning towards limited setups as they can be considered more 'realistic' IMHO.

I don't see any reason to turn 'realism' into a fetish like that, but the server side option is without doubt the most sensible way to go.

Quote from farcar :I'd guess that most people aren't intending to be physics testers while they're racing. I'd say leave that job to the devs and their testers rather than people who are racing each other.

I think there are a number of LFS drivers who are not 'official' testers, and yet who are quite capable of adding a great deal to the development process, discovering things for themselves in the course of racing.

Quote :The benefits are more about eliminating some of the more unrealistic setups from the road cars

But the unrealistic setups only exist because of physics flaws, indeed it might be true that the unrealistic setups contributed to revealing the physics flaws. To eliminate the very thing that offers a way of improving the simulation seems like a very stupid thing to do.
nihil
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Quote from danowat :

Just because you think cannabis is "ok", or "cool", it doesn't mean it is, just as everything else, you WILL do yourself irrepairable damage, and you won't know till it's too late.

Pretty much like racing then.

From most people's perspective, actually trying to drive a car right up to its physical limits is irresponsible and selfish. Looking after your smashed up body after the inevitable accident puts pressure on an already strained health service etc etc... You know all the arguments, since as race fans you've probably all heard them from people who don't get your obsession.

Drugs? I've enjoyed a lot of them and still enjoy a few of them. Its all about assessing the risk, and consenting to the experience. That's a very 'grown up' thing to do, Tristan. You of all people should know that.

Funny thing is, as I've got older, I enjoy drugs less as a social thing, and more as a private experience. Consequently, I do them less often, but when I do, I veer towards more powerfully hallucinogenic brands. When in company, I prefer to be able to communicate clearly with others!
nihil
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Quote from marsaz :Typical mistake and typical black men aren't the same thing.

Mere nit-picking. To precede any sentence with the word "typical" is the lazy way of dealing with the particularities, complexities, and specificities of anything immediately present in all of its, sometimes, confusing individuality.

Racism is frequently not the product of malice, but the product of stupidity, laziness, confusion, and subsequent inarticulacy.

Quote from tristancliffe :Generally the only race that have ever stood up and said "hey, that's racist that is innit" are people with black skin. White people, yellow people and beige people rarely play the racism card, probably because they're less racist themselves.

Now you're just screwing with me. There can't be a sentence there that makes any sense to anyone who is actually familiar with the world at large.

Quote from FlyeThemoon :
Hamilton Like men, He like to dress up like a woman

I can't decide: is that a really complex drag/motorsport metaphor, in which this debate is shown, in parodic form, to be the height of ridiculousness? I mean, we have rather forgotten that what we call "Hamilton" is just a fiction, itself a dramatic reconstruction as fragile as gender assignation. The overwhelming majority of us will never know "Hamilton" the man, only "Hamilton" the reproduced image.

Or was it just really, really ****ing stupid?
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nihil
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Quote from S14 DRIFT :

Test tommorow at 10.14am, >_< Scared.

Good luck. In case you read this before you take your test: lane discipline. Particularly look out for bus lanes, and read the blue signs which give you information about when a bus lane can be used by other traffic.

Not using a bus lane when you are able to will probably see you fail the whole test, since the highway code states you should always be in the first available left hand lane.

Catches a lot of people out, that one...
nihil
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Quote from tristancliffe :He's made the typical black-man mistake of mistaking not being liked for being a twatty, clingy Dad to a robotic McLaren-machine for a racial attack. I hate it when blacks (and it usually is them) claim that ANYTHING against them is racist.

And I hate it when whites (and it is usually them) contort themselves into racist poses just because they're scared of being seen as bleeding heart liberals.

Sorry Tristan, but that is quite honestly the most racist response you could have made to this topic. Typical black men? What are they exactly? Hmmm, that's right - stereotypes.
nihil
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Quote from Toddshooter :Its the only way to drive!!

Unless you actually have a cockpit, in which case its a waste of pixels... Only way, my fanny.
nihil
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I've only casually read that site, but I think most posts here are missing the point. This is not an attempt to update the seven, or even recreate yet another sevenesque design. The brief simply seems to be for a "new performance car" and its up to the community to decide what that means...

Looks to me like its a way of getting "premium subscribers" to pay some bright spark's wages, since I doubt anyone contributing to the site will get a free car out of the deal...

I'll wait to be convinced otherwise, but if I had any bright ideas for a brand new performance car, I'd keep them to myself until someone paid me. Not to say that I don't think the open source concept couldn't be applied to the design and manufacture of real world commodities, but I don't think this little venture has any higher goals than building a subscription base.

iRental for the real world?
nihil
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Quote from Greboth :While Hamilton has done some stupid things he has, imo, got an attacking driving style nd actually makes moves which I love.

Amen.

@Hamilton: Have a great race today.

Win or lose, people are actually talking about the sport again. Two pages devoted to F1 in yesterdays paper, and after Spa I had a debate about F1 rules and tactics at work. This is with work colleagues who would have previously regarded my interest as class betrayal at best. That's cool.
nihil
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Quote from duke_toaster :

As most of fonejacker's calls are pranks but not obscene, it's a different kettle of fish. Obscenity is a bizzare concept though.

As with most law pertaining to public order its incredibly subjective (meaning the law itself is quite fragile and open to misuse by the state - this is just something that's inherent in the nature of public order law).

I'm paraphrasing here and may have time to look it up later, but if I remember correctly the Telecommunications Act also includes calls which cause annoyance or inconvenience (I think in the same paragraph that relates to obscenity, I'm happy to be corrected on that though...)

nihil
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Quote from STROBE :...Brand and Ross should've immediately apologised and resigned for a gross lapse of common decency and judgement,

Yeah, I admit (in the other thread) that ignoring Sach's lack of consent was the real offence, but ultimately this blame should be laid with the production team and not the 'front of house' performers.

And as you said 'making' prank calls is illegal. The Spanner trial all those years ago proved that consenting to something doesn't mean much under law. That is why people have mentioned Fonejacker. A prank call is a prank call. Just because you like it doesn't make it legal.
nihil
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Quote from tristancliffe :

What is a bit off (and not bad enough to warrent enquiries, resignations etc) is that Andrew Sachs asked to not have the 'scene' broadcast, but they did anyway.

Yeah, I've not been following this carefully, so I was quite surprised to learn that he knew all about it before it was broadcast. Kind of takes the 'we were so offended' angle away from it, but at the same time makes me feel a little more sympathy for him and his lovely daughter... I mean it was very funny, but for someone to say "Look, I'd rather you didn't broadcast it" - well, that's where the real offence lies. No one likes to be ignored like that.

Makes it all the more relevant that Russell Brand should apologise in front of a picture of Stalin! Did someone mention the words "show trial"... I like him all the more for this little video:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TMxh-BnyKKs

Screw the Daily Mail.
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