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nihil
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Real life comeback, witnessed a few years back:

Young man giving a tramp some money: "I hope that you'll spend it on some food"

Tramp: "What I do with my money is my fecking business!"
nihil
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sigh.... RIP Bon Scott...

BTW you spelt trueno wrong.
nihil
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Quote from andybarsblade :wait ive got it i'll enter a hybrid into the wtcc, its just different technology after all

Not such a weird idea - there was a hybrid rally car a couple of years ago.
nihil
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Quote from tristancliffe :
Therefore I have no interest in watching LeMans ....

I like that the ACO still has some (maybe vague.... but at least some...) interest in encouraging something other than single formula racing. There's a balance to made between puritanical fairness, and allowing deviation from the norm, encouraging engineering variety, that means that the sport doesn't simply stew in its own bathwater.

Whether the ACO has that balance I haven't recently been watching close enough to know, but I really don't see the point of anything done in the name of equality, that simply means "tried and tested" wins ... again.

Bring back Formula Libre...
nihil
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Things people do when they get bored:

Make paper planes and throw them out of a space shuttle

Open source car design

Get yourself a GPL 66 mod rank

Organise a midnight rideout wi ... n roads... In the dark...

Sex... I'm sure you can find your own links...

Really if LFS is not doing it, then best to let it lie... Though you might try designing some autoX courses; they're the only reason I still have LFS on my computer at the moment.
nihil
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Quote from samjh :What we need are longer autocross tracks with more dirt. Current autocross tracks are nothing much more than little twisty bits of dirt joined up by long stretches of tarmac. Boring.

Ha ha, yeah, I've often wondered why a nominally British indie outfit have saddled us with this Americanism...

Autocross in the UK ----> mud

Autocross in the US ----> cones
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nihil
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Simple solution - block the chat.

And rather than blaming users indescriminately (this community, that community... big ****ing yawn...), why not get on the case of admins on servers who allow such pointless spamming in the first place?
nihil
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Quote from nisskid :you have to understand that is simply you interpretation of the 2 words,

Hi

Quite impressed by the way you have taken this thread by the scruff of the neck and would like to ask you something (rather than see you bogged down in linguistic pedanticism... Why these threads always go that way is beyond me...)

What has always interested me most about the 'battles' is the degree of strategy involved (and the limited time in which drivers have to make snap decisions about that strategy). Do you have any links to articles in which drivers describe their strategy, or just general guides to that particular element of the competition?
nihil
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Quote from aoun :Design is all about looks, true or false?

Utterly false.

Quote :Whats so sony about this logo?

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I dont see the resemblance to the word Logitech here.

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Whats penguins have to do with it? Eh i guess it could have something to do with the owner.. But i dont know.....


Gradients and reflections are a shitty, cynical way of saying, "Hey, I'm a warm and cuddly brand, that's going to take your money in the nicest possible way. We're all about YOU. All about transparency". When in actual fact, they're the usual shit dressed up in the fashionable argot of Web 2.0.

BTW... Same goes for pastel shades.... And drop shadows...
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nihil
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Quote from Adam2k8 :Last Update for my entry

Reckon that colour way is really appropriate: reminiscent of the LFS colours but also this, a classic endurance racer.
nihil
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Quote from tristancliffe :I was very tempted to point out that Italy and all Italians have surrendered already for the next 3 world wars, and the next 20 national (non-"worldwide") wars.

Tristan, you dig a big hole for yourself by just trying to be a "plain speaker" (word to the wise, anyone who claims to be a plainspeaker is most likely not worth listening to...)

To speak of all Italians in such a manner is to indulge an ignorant national stereotype. It may sound funny in conversation, with the mates that will indulge your pecadillos, but here in a public place it just makes you look thick.

Not only the partisan resistance, but many working-class Italians, risked their lives (organising strikes and sabotage), and lost their lives fighting the fascists in WW2.
nihil
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Quote from Danke :
My suggestion: have the in-game server browser report the status of what's happening on the server (i.e. lap 2 of 6 or 10 minutes remaining in qualifying) in addition to how many people are on.

That's a very good idea and should be added to the improvement wishlist (if it isn't already). It's actually one of the first questions I asked before coughing up for S2... but I was told that I was "asking too much", that LFS was "in development", blah blah blah...
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nihil
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Quote from squidhead :
music choice is bad and gives you a headache,

Liked the music actually... but the car footage/dubbed music combination rarely produces anything that isn't a domination of style over content.

Quote from squidhead :
crashing = not cool

showing driving with mistakes = not cool

Cool is for slick wannabes...
nihil
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The obsession with 'purity' round these parts is a strange thing. As far as simulation goes, all the devs need to do is concentrate on making a close, virtual analogy of the real-life forces that work on a vehicle. Then they need to provide the programming tools that enable a competition environment to be officiated.

If you also require them to have a vision of the kind of racing that is allowed within LFS, then you are asking the devs to become some kind of sanctioning body like the FIA. Frankly, I think that's a lame arsed and infantile thing for the user base to be doing.

Get on with using the tools provided to officiate over the kind of racing you want, and stop whining like the rich kid who doesn't like the scary lads from the council estate being in the same playground.

"Build it and they will come."
nihil
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Quote from Ikaponthus : ... pointless. That's not quite the right word to express what I mean though.

Eight pages... Oye Vay!
nihil
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Quote from Ikaponthus : they're not actually racing are they?

To a certain extent, yes, they are. Not for an absolute and ultimate time, but for relative position. This explains it fairly well:

Quote :
Offensive: Generally the chasing driver has the offensive when in the Twin Battle. An easy analogy is Cowboys at a rodeo competing in the round up or two jet pilots engaged in a dog fight. They chase their prey and do what ever they can to get their target into a dead zone where the prey cannot maneuver from. This same principle is used in the Tsuiso style. Driver use their vehicle and its drift to position into a space that minimizes the running drivers ability to keep a good line while staying in a high speed drift. The chasing driver MUST at all times demonstrate a superior drift in order to A) Keep the pressure on the lead driver B) Steal and block a line that may allow the lead driver a good opportunity for a drift. C) Be awarded a superior number of points If a chasing driver is unable to keep up and maintain pressure on the lead driver this will not be good when the time comes for points to be awarded.

Defensive: When a drive takes the lead in the Tsuiso battle the ideal strategy is to perform a drift a a much higher speed, good line, and a greater angle than the chasing driver. If a lead driver can shake off or intimidate a chasing driver many times the chasing driver will make a mistake when trying to compensate for what seems like erratic actions of the lead car. When a lead driver can pull away with a good angle, following the ideal line while maintaining a controlled drift, the chasing driver has all the pressure to increase performance. The lead driver at this point is winning. Lead drivers many times demonstrate superior skill by suddenly entering a drift at a great angle and going directly to the inside of the corner. TO the following driver it appears as though they will T-bone the lead car so they back down and take measures to avoid the lead car. Many times that will cause the chasing car to loose a great amount of speed and not be able to properly execute the corner in a full drift… or even worst they may spin out or hit the barriers. This is a ideal outcome for the lead driver in Tsuiso battles.


Sorry to the original author, but this was an ancient copy and paste into notepad job lying around on my hard drive...
nihil
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Quote from nisskid :i like to call it the fast and the furious generation, the movies brought an inflated image of the car scene, and drift is simply just the latest in the movie sets so its quite simply just the latest craze for them. it will pass.

Ha ha... I edited that out 'cos it sounded a bit fluffy... But I think it goes a bit further back than FnF, since the car has always been an icon of social as well as spatial mobility.

The first FnF film was quite interesting though, in that, while most of the protagonist cars were Japanese imports, the 'hero' car was all American muscle. There's a whole thesis in that...
nihil
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Quote from Ikaponthus :

If you want to argue about my personal tastes ....

I don't want to.

Your tastes, my tastes, his, hers, whoever's, are only worth one post. Actually, I have to define that a bit better... Individual tastes are not as interesting as how they become mass tastes, how they become historical.
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nihil
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Quote from wheeler :Just a very quick mockup from me.

To me that's really the coolest and most logical integration yet of the infinity sign. Needs a bit of work on the font generally to make it a design, but whatever... nice one.
nihil
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Quote from Ikaponthus :I think we're getting off point. Where closed circuit racing originated is irrelevant. Suffice to say it was around the 1900s in very old an relatively slow cars by an aristocratic upper class as nobody else could even afford cars!

We are ot, but this is much, much more interesting FFS!!
nihil
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Quote from Ikaponthus :While in 1900 (or whenever) it was probably not on a race-track, the origins of modern autosports simply cannot be compared in any way whatsoever to contemporary bling street racer idiocy.

In the history of morals and manners that relate to motor racing, I'm sure there will be a section dedicated to quotes on the 'idiocy' and irresponsible nature inherent to drivers of the horseless carriage.

It was the bling of its day (indeed early cars are referred to as 'brass era' cars). I'm not making a direct comparison here, merely stating that your dislike seems to be more about modern manners than a contemporary sport. why not just say so, instead of attempting back it up with technical verbiage about tyre conservation.
nihil
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Quote from Ikaponthus :That might be interesting but my point remains.

Basically, closed circuit street racing, rally, etc. simply do not have the same ties to street racer culture that "drifting racing" does.

Because the political and social influences on history now are very different to those at the end of the nineteenth century... But I don't see how it is possible to argue that circuit racing does not have its roots in the 'streets'; both in a metaphorical sense (that it evolved from popular, public drives and impetuses) and physically (there simply were no circuits for the first car race to take place on).
nihil
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Quote from Ikaponthus :

Closed circuit racing and rally certainly did not originate on the streets. The origins of these types of motor-sports go way back to the invention of the auto-mobile when racing was the pass-time of high society and the aristocratic class that could actually afford cars. A lot of this mentality can still be seen in F1 in particular.

The history of motor racing, particularly the class bias, is whole lot more complex and interesting than that. The technological aspect of racing tied it closely to working class enthusiasms, as much as to aristocratic and mercantile capital. And there were no circuits until street racing (esp. the death toll on the Paris to Madrid) proved both popular and dangerous.

The traditional marxist approach to history (ie. that economics is the primary driving force) is flawed, in that money and power are nothing without cultural support.

There are lots of interesting things yet to be written on the subject of motor racing history. That the sport did not originate on the streets is not one of them.
nihil
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Quote from Dajmin :

It's not the game that's at fault - it's the users. Specifically the people running servers and the egomaniacs who race the same combo all the time because they can't possibly risk a non-podium finish anywhere else.

This is a good point. I haven't been online for a while, but still enjoy LFS from time to time in single player (sprint courses that I might get around to posting at some time...), so I don't think its the simulation or the cars that would cause any decline (if indeed there is a decline, can't be arsed to check the stats)

I don't have the time to dedicate to a league, but if I was to look for a pick-up race CTRA would be the first stop. My experience of other servers in the past was "oh look, same combination as last time."

The weirdest combos could often prove to be hugely entertaining: UF1 at Westhill? Slow car, fast course? Going to be tedious... Actually no, I had amazingly close and satisfying racing on that combo.

But sadly, most servers don't do weird... And they don't do it because most users don't do weird either. The RAC might as well not exist, and configurations longer than a minute and a bit are as rare as rocking horse shit.
nihil
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Quote from March Hare :I have a bicycle. Will that do?

Yeah, that'll have to do I guess. I work round the corner from Evans (London bicycle shop)... In the paper this morning they were bragging about selling the £7000 carbon fibre Ferrari race bike. Might see if they have one in the showroom at lunchtime & post pix.
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