No, its not just you - the back end is like it is on ice for me too! Thanks horrgakx for the tip - I will try messing with that.
My qualifying setup will be very close to that used by the world record holder and will be balanced on the edge of drivable! My race set however, will be a "stuck to the ground", "couldn't spin the back around if you tried", "slow but VERY stable" set made by exaggerated tweaks of some sliders followed by a rigorous 5 minute test which will no doubt start about 4 minutes before my pool!
Firstly, I would just like to say to Ant, I told you I would investigate, and I did. Do you know how long it took me to sit and watch the replay? The replay on the server started at 10:45 (UTC) on Saturday and I watched it until around 17:40 (UTC), there was more to the replay, but I did not go further than this as I had seen the incident you reported. I just sat at that corner watching at 8x speed, and I caught another racer doing it earlier in the day. I then had to fast forward through again to watch it closely and to get the details so that I could inform the rest of the staff. All told this cost me around 2.5 hours of my time. I did this because you alerted me to the incident. We have then taken this information and investigated it as promised and then made a ruling (as seen on the site). To be honest, after having sat through all of that replay to then see no action being taken was pretty frustrating for me, but that is the decision of the OLFSL team and so that is how it shall be; I accept that.
Please do not suggest that I told you something and then did nothing about it (as I read your "yawn" to be). (ps if this is not how you meant it and I have misread it then I apologise now).
Anyway, onto my race: figure this out for me if you will: last race I absolutely loved it! I was clean and tidy for the entire race, my strategy was faultless and I ended up winning (I have to admit to watching the replay quite a lot, although most of this was done while debugging the RaceControl application that we use to control our events). It was great, I felt so good afterwards. I scored 60 points for winning Pool 7. This week, I manged to qualify a little better. Somehow, I managed to sneak into a mid Pool 5 grid slot (and out qualify Solar Hydro, which I normally fail to do, even though he races with a mouse and I use a G25!! (I still don't understand this)). Anyway, my race is appalling - I hate it from about lap 14 I think, when everything goes pear-shaped and I end up eating grass for about 30 seconds!! GRRRRRRRR! Then I pit and then I spin another 3 times, and then I spend the rest of the race going slower and slower! How irritating. Then I decide, 4 laps from the end, to try a new setup. I chose R2s for the race, but they are blue and not even warm enough - I lower the pressure to try to get some heat into them and make me faster around the corners. Sadly it doesn't work and I just end up having a slower top speed and a slightly slower lap time. Anyway, I end up last (11th after starting 5th) and feel so depressed it hurts. Guess how many points for 11th in Pool 5?
70.5! Where is the justice!
(Sami: don't for a minute think I am suggesting the points system changing, I am merely pointing out how it happens sometimes.)
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Reason : I won Pool 7 not Pool 6.
Indeed Pool 7 was fun. I started 2nd behind D Robb. By the end of the first straight I was 3rd after being overtaken by Ady Durn after he stormed through with a fantastic start from the line.
I was able to stick close to both of them and we quickly pulled away from the rest of the field. Ady Durn clearly had a quicker car, but the he was unable to keep it on track, and after one slight mistake, I took my opportunity and took 2nd place back from him. If I remember correctly, this was just after the chicane, at the 90 degree corner going onto the main straight.
Then I pulled away from him and kept D Robb in my sights. I soon found that I was slightly quicker than D Robb, but not enough to actually overtake him. My only hope was to run longer than him and put in some quicker laps before my pit stop so that I could leap frog him. Fortunately, D Robb stopped at the end of lap 15. I stayed out and ran two more laps and at the end of lap 17, I stopped. I had very little damage and my tyres (I knew) would last, so my stop lasted 2 seconds (a popular strategy amongst the top pools I have later discovered) and I easily came out in the lead. In fact, D Robb's pitstop had been really long and he was now back in 4th place. 2nd place man now was Logan5 and the 11 second gap soon increased to 11.5 and then to 12seconds.
Just before my pitstop, sheepy had been putting in some stonking laps and catching me up. Fortunately he stopped at the same time as me and his stop must have been longer as he ended up 23 seconds behind me. He was always faster than me, but I was able to stay consistent and keep the lead.
That was my first win in this league, and although it was in Pool 7, it was a fantastic fight and most definately the best race I have had to date. My thanks for close and fair racing go to D Robb and Ady Durn. To anyone else reading, if you get chance, watch the first few laps of the race, because there is some close and very fair racing, which is really good to watch.
In fact, the last 3 laps of Pool 3 (edit: it was pool 3 not pool 2 sorry!) were just as entertaining, if you have lots of spare time. The pit stops have added a little bit of excitement, which was, of course, our aim!
This is because Hash Gordon was added to the pool at the last minute as he did not qualify for the event. He shows in the Replays and Stats as this is based on the cars that were connected to the server during the race. He doesn't show in the results because the site is not expecting him in the results.
Sami, can you put him into pool7 and I will upload the results again tonight?
133 racers have qualified, obviously some will not make the race, but I think that proves it is just your opinion. Opinions are very welcome, as always.
I personally hate this car, but that is the great thing about this league - we try all different variations and after being forced into using it (or face missing out on some points) I may find I can handle the car better and start out on the long road to liking it!
I am sorry about that, I try to make my posts as clear and consice as possible to avoid such confusion, but sometimes I end up making them too long and complicated which makes them even more confusing :S
Yes, this entire season for us will be run using this Qualifying routine. Thanks for your understanding.
I stopped developing the mind reading utility when I found I didn't have a mind to read!
Hi Steel, it is my pleasure and I wish I could give you some laps back for a genuine mistake, but alas, I can not. The rules page on the OLFSL site has been updated with the fact that passing Split 1 takes one of your available laps off, and the information buttons in LFS show you too. I will make a point to make this point even clearer in future so that it can not happen again.
I hope you enjoy this season and don't get caught out again!
I have checked and you have started 15 laps but completed only 10. Crossing Split 1 takes the lap from your available laps and it doesn't matter if you finish the lap or not. However, the web site will only show how many laps you have fully completed and set a laptime on.
I also see that you have hidden the information buttons that appear at the top of LFS while you are on the server. These buttons show you exactly how many more times you can cross Split 1.
I would just like to point out that the first qualifying session (from 8th to 14th of March) is going to be running the car and track from event 1 (ie LX6 @ SO Town) and is to allow everyone to get used to the format in case they missed the warmup events for any reason.
It is also a way of getting any bugs out of the system. Please use this thread to report issues and bugs.
The second qualifying period (from 15th to 28th March) will start afresh with all the times from the first period being cleared. This period will then form the grid for the event.
number 3 guy leaves:
Guy in 8th (last) slot fills slot 3
Guy in slot 3 is renumbered to 3
New guy connects, becomes number 8
Just from observing the listquote]
By "list" I assume you mean the connection list at the bottom right of the screen? I have to be honest I haven't noticed this or looked for it either. I would imagine (in my limited capacity) that the above method would take more time to complete than a simple linked list which just re-pointed position 2 at position 4 therefore effectivley deleting position 3!
The above requires re-pointing position 3 at position 8, then re-pointing position 8 at position 4 and then re-pointing position 7 at NULL (ie end of the list).
I could, of course, have it completely wrong and be thinking far too simplisticly!