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t1ger
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Quote from bunder9999 :here's an example... i join my server, drive a couple laps, crash, pit and rejoin, then finish the race all over again... the resulting replay would be called 0R1F.

These are league races, and no-one re-joins. They start and if they don't finish, they either spectate or leave. Fullstop.

I don't think this is the reason it shows 0R. It is most likely something else, but I can't work out what.

Tim
t1ger
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Quote from bunder9999 :0R means that everyone pitted at some point. think of R as "racers at the start" and F as "racers at the end".

Nope, 'cos that would mean that 0 racers started and 12 finished - how can that work!

Quote from J@tko :Number of retierees?

Nope, becasue in the first replay I mention, 8 racers retired because in total 20 started - so no to that one too!

Sorry, good ideas, which I have already had and dismissed.

Any more?

Tim
MPR Filename description
t1ger
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Hi,

I have searched everywhere I can think of, but I just can not find out the actual definition of the MPR filenames which are auto-saved by a server. I have several filenames for example:

AS7_race_23L_0R_12F.mpr

Now, I know what the AS7 bit is (), the "race" shows it is a race, "23L" means it was a 23 lap race, "12F" means that 12 racers finished. However, I can not work out what the "0R" part means. My instinct is that it refers to the number of Racers, but this is clearly wrong as there were 12 that finished.

Another replay I have is named:

AS7_race_23L_10R_18F.mpr

Again, this can't be Racers, but I don't know what else it can mean. I just can't work it out or find reference to it anywhere.

Does anyone know, please?

Thanks in advance.
Tim

ps I just know I am going to kick myself when I do find out
t1ger
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Quote from horrgakx :Tim - thanks for the reply. I'm not having a go, just disappointed. I know I'll not get points but I didn't want to get a "no show"

Russraine - not cheap for me, the exchange isn't LLU so its still over £20 top line.

You won't get no points, you will get:

DNF + (DNF * (completed laps/total laps))

Which equates to:

26.5 + (26.5 * (3/23)) = 29.9

Tim
t1ger
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Quote from horrgakx :I know how you feel, I tried a 15 lap race and finished 2 laps behind due to spins. This car is a b!tch.

Hehe, the thing is the AI don't spin on the track. Because I ran 50 laps, they decided they needed a pit stop - it was great, because 7 of them got stuck in the pits because they all piled in at the end of lap 25!

Quote from horrgakx :One thing I noticed are the odd lines the AI take, especially the last corner which they take very wide.

Hmm, not overly weird I didn't think, but they basically lost a lot of time (to me) in the first corner (because they braked so early) and the last corner (because they don't carry enough speed through).

Quote from horrgakx :And the first corner they have a shallow approach with a steel exit. I have to take that corner like a classic 'hairpin' where I come in hard on the brakes, turn late and let the car accelerate all the way through.

The left hander before the chicane is tricky too, do you brake before it or just lift and downshift?

So tricky.

I have tried various approaches to that last corner and lifting seems to be the best for me 'cos it unsettles the car least. Shifting down is a really bad idea until you are mostly through the corner. Get the corner right, and it feels really sweet. However, to the world record, I am still losing 2 seconds a lap - and I am sure that the WR will fall during our qualifying as is so often the case - which makes me feel very slow.

JR: I agree though, I am looking forward to this one, its a great track/car combo. Should be fun.

Tim
Event 2 - MRT5 (MRT) at Aston Cadet (AS1)
t1ger
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OK, I know the results of the first event are still not done, but we also need to get ready for the next event.

This one should be fun. 50 laps of the quick Aston Cadet in the nimble MRT. Please remember that these cars have no reverse gear!!

I just raced 50 laps with the AI (which are slightly slower than me, they managed 55:45 I think as their fastest) but they were really difficult to overtake, so I am guessing that this race is going to be difficult for overtaking. Most of the passing is going to be done with people flying off the track!

Anyway, I finished 3 laps behind the AI

Tim
t1ger
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Hi Horrgakx,

Yes, I think your connection was bordering on non-existent. You were not visible at all from the actual start of the race, but I could see you had split and lap times so I knew you were still going at your own end. The connection to the server was not complete though, so we never actually saw you.

After 3 laps you disconnected anyway, probably because your already tiny link to the server got broken entirely. For the purposes of the results, you will be classified as having completed 3 laps. This is because the server believed you were racing and sent split and lap times to my insim app AND because you didn't affect anyone else's race AND because you disconnected. If you had finished it may have been a different story because you were not actually seen and so you could not race against others and others could not race against you (because they couldn't see you!).

I am sorry about your race, but this is the nature of on-line gaming and I hope you get your end sorted as best you can soon. We try our best to keep our servers up and connected all the time, but even this is completely out of our control.

Thanks
Tim
t1ger
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Cool Sami! Thanks

Tim
t1ger
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Sorry, will have to become a dirty drop out - that date clashes with our holiday

Tim
t1ger
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Hopefully very soon. That is all I can say for now, but trust me when I say I am pushing to get this thing started because I am as hungry for some racing as you are!

Tim
t1ger
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Quote from N I K I :yee, great, no wind sounds awesome
edit: OMG ive just seen that your gonna use high wind, that sounds bad, low wind in lfs is strong enough to be called high, and high is tornado... i'd strongly suggest to use low or non wind

Hi NIKI, your point is noted. we will test and maka amendments if required.

Tim
t1ger
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For those of you new to the OLFSL or for those whose memory is not as it used to be, please check out the other thread (here) for details on the Qualifying system we use.

Thanks and good luck with the new season.

Tim
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t1ger
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Quote from N I K I :can we see, can we see

No!
t1ger
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Quick Update:
  • Race Calendar has been drafted, just needs dates adding (taking into account F1 weekends and holidays etc etc)
  • Qualifying server will be kept (no hotlap qualifying - sorry three_jump, can we not pursuade you to try the qualifying server again?)
  • Warm-Up race will be announced soon, so keep checking the web site for the details.
@Devaar: no you don't need to do anything more yet. Just keep watching the site, and it will all be made clear when you need to do something. Welcome aboard!

Tim
t1ger
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Hi Sheepy,

Blimey you are keen! As yet, we have no plans for next seasons "theme" or car/track combos, but rest assured there will be a full season for you to enjoy.

Qualifying on the server instead of uploading hotlaps will be kept, however we are toying with new ideas for exactly how this works, but I will keep you in the dark about those for now!

Other than that, I would like to change the RaceControl application which the hosts use to organise the actual races, and if I can do what I am hoping to do, this will make the experience better for racers and hosts. Again, I will keep you in the dark about this too just in case I can not pull it off and then no-one is dissapointed.

So, have a good holiday, and the league will be back next year with a brand new season of fun for racers of all skill levels!

Tim
t1ger
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Quote from horrgakx :Its back up now which is great news, unfortunately not in time for the race At least I didn't get hit with a -40 point deficit which I did last time due to server issues

I'm sorry to hear that you didn't get chance to race, and because you notified me using the correct channels, I am able to score you as 0.0 instead of -40.0.

I hope you, and others, understand why we do give -40.0 points for those that do not show. If you (or others) don't, the reason is to discourage people from just "not showing up" without us knowing. If the host is waiting for the last person to show and just giving them a few extra minutes because they may be running a few minutes late, we are holding up all those who got to the server on time. If they are not going to show at all, the hold up is for nothing and just frustrates all involved (racers and hosts) and could potentially hold up the next pool being raced on the same server or hosted by the same host. If we are given warning, then we can simply cross them out and not expect them to join, meaning we can start on time and run the league as planned.

Everyone is happy and nobody is punished.

Thanks for listening.
Tim
t1ger
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To be honest, I don't think setup makes too much difference on this track. I was running around in the 1:08's on the default rallycross set which is in LFS. I then acquired a set of a fellow racer who was doing 1:05's and I can still only manage 1:06's. It is a little better, but I am not sure there is too much in it.

Testing with the default set and getting used to it, will make it easier to race on a set which is slightly faster. Maybe just some gearing to go faster across the road sections.

Unfortunately, I am not a master set maker, so I may be talking complete and total.....

Tim
t1ger
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Quote from horrgakx :

Just something else ... I might have spotted a typo on the lfs-league.com website. Under QUALIFYING, the new event is shown as "Event 5" but it is actually event 8.

Thanks.

Yes, it is a typo - well not changed from last event. Thanks for pointing it out I hadn't noticed it at all

Tim
t1ger
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A quick reminder of the rules for those who are new (and those of us with bad memories, myself included):

- You join the server when you are ready to qualify. Don't use the server to practice, you will waste your lap allowance!
- You may cross Split 1 a total of 12 times. This does not include outlaps. Crossing Split 1 on your outlap from the pits will NOT deduct a lap from your allowance.
- Your best time over the 12 allowed laps will be your Qualifying time and this will be used to group you all into pools or around 16-20 racers come raceday.

Any questions, post here for now until the site is restored - at which time the rules section should answer them all for you.

Good racing,
Tim (OLFSL results and points manager)
Event 8 Qualifying is OPEN
t1ger
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Hi all,

The qualifying server (OLFSL Qual by 500servers) is up and running and times are now being recorded.

The bad news is the LFS League web site (www.lfs-league.com) is currently down (ISP issue). Don't worry though, your laps will be counted in the meantime.

Good luck to you all, and see you on track in a few weeks time!

Tim
t1ger
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Finally got around to writing my race report. I was going to scan my results and post them to, but no-one else has so they will be pointless on their own.

Anyway, the report:

Qualifying:
My practice was spent finding the lines and just getting to grips with the kart. Then after not very long at all (although it was about 12minutes I think) they showed us the green flag which meant "these laps are now being timed". I was able to push and push and managed to link a few decent laps together. Actually, after the qualifying, before I knew my position, I was quite pleased (no body had passed me and I had felt quite quick).

I parked the kart on the second row at the right hand side - I was sure this was in the qualifying position, but was not sure if this was 3rd or 4th - either way, I was happy.

When the grid was announced, I was third, behind Becky (in first) and Thomas (felplacerad) in second. I was pleased - nah delighted, but about 1 second off their pace which was a bit humbling.

Then we got back in and started the race, with a rolling start. This I know I am not good at, because every other time I have tried a rolling start I have been left behind. Anyway, I tried to concentrate and keep well behind Becky. As the lights went green I moved across to the left hand side of the track and was getting down the outside of Becky for the first corner (this can be seen in the picture labelled "On the run down to T1", I am kart number 2) - unfortunately, this did not work as I was passed on the inside instead by kart number 17 (Victor I think).

Now this is where it gets somewhat confusing - At the end of lap 1, I was fourth - I knew this because I had been overtaken at the start. At the end of the first lap, due to some drama, kart number 15 (Jason) was in front of us all and was overtaken by Thomas soon after. Then Becky tried to follow but somewhere spun and lost a lot of time (which she later made up brilliantly, I might add). So after Becky's spin, I was third.

The next few laps (10 or 15 I think) were nice, I was trying to catch Jason, but couldn't. There were times I was sliding on the water and one corner was getting slippier and slippier for the line I was taking. On one lap, a kart (no idea who) spun in front of me and I had to take quick avoiding action across the kerb. This was fun actually, and I was glad I had escaped. It lost me a lot of time to Jason who I was chasing.

Soon I saw Becky catching me up - and I knew it was her due to her overalls. She caught me and finally overtook me at the end of the back straight into the hairpin. I then followed her very closely and amazed myself by not letter her get too far in front of me. In fact, on the first part of the track, I was faster. The second half was all hers though. Anyway, I kept quite close and then we came up to the back of a back marker (I won't name names but she was the slowest out there ). We had just gone through the slippery chicane and as we headed down towards the hairpin, Becky went to the left and I went to the right. It was quite amazing, and even more so for me as I came out of the hairpin in front and then just about managed to stay in front of Becky all the way to the chequered flag (which was only about 5 laps if I remember correctly).

Now, at this point, I was thinking, I must be third at the most, maybe even second - I had lost sight of those in front of me but there had been some spinners, and I wasn't sure who was who. Secretly, I was hoping for third.

Anyway, when the results were announced, I was fourth and Jason had taken third spot. Now I don't want to take anything away from Jason, but something wierd happened at the start and I think the centre had allowed him to take the place. I really don't mind (as the whole day was loads of fun) but I did want to point it out.

Finally, thanks once again to Ben for organising it - your efforts are greatly appreciated and thanks to everyone for making it so enjoyable and fun. I was pleased to meet Thomas and Victor and Becky and Joe, and good to see all those again from previous years (Ben, Ian, need, nihil).



See you all (hopefully) next year!

Tim
t1ger
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For now, count me and my tent in as definately interested.

Tim
t1ger
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Quote from Bob Smith :
Tim - you're welcome to do whatever. IIRC, you'll be the only person other than myself to have attended all four meets,

I actually missed the first meeting, but the other three I have made, and actually last years jaunt out into Southampton for an Indian was really good and I enjoyed it - more of a restaurant outing than a pub crawl. This time *sounds* more like a pub crawl, and I will be steering very clear of such a situation.

Tim
t1ger
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Firstly, for all those who will be staying over and going back down the M1 on the Sunday (24th), I saw that it will be closed between J32 and J35 in both directions from 00:00 until 19:30 (i.e. all day long). It says on the Traffic England website that there will be a 20 minute delay, so I assume there will be some diversions in place. I don't know if it will affect anyone, as the A1 might be the better bet for most people, but I just thought you should all know

As for the after event stuff, I too am a non-drinker (by choice and not a doctors say-so). I will not be staying the night as I don't really fancy the idea of going out into Newcastle with you but I don't mind grabbing some food with some of you (depending upon the options and who is doing what etc).

The offer of going to your house, Ben, and playing LFS sounds OK, but not the drinking beer bit! I would like to play this by ear though and make my mind up at the time (depends on how I feel, if I am talking to people or if I am being a miserable sod and just standing at the back laughing at all the bad jokes that I can't actually make out over the rest of the din in the pub! - sounds wierd I know and might not make sense, but there you go, thats me)

The karting will be fun though! See you there.

Tim
t1ger
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Ben, just so you know, I am going to be on holiday from the 9th (I already paid the deposit) so don't be surprised if you don't hear from me until the 17th.

If anything major happens which changes proceedings, you can assume I will go with the majority and vote on my behalf

Tim
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