I am not sure what the difference is between a website lfsdb.net and http://www.lfsdb.net which is the website domain
Maybe i am missing something, or you are......
Just to make it clear, when lfsdatabase went missing and some LFS forum members decided to make a new one, to support the community I registered lfsdatabase.eu and supplied an unlimited hosted for it. I did that at my own cost and without any charges.
I did it as i had used lfsdatabase in the past, and no other reason
in post #12 is said "If i can help with hosting like i do with http://www.lfsdatabase.eu just pm my "
To be fair i have been rather dissappointed in the new site however the site is nothing whatsoever to do with me
Why you and the other ones cant work together is beyond me.
I agree with you as the same happened to me, but in iRacing i miss the fun we used to have in LFS, why? you may ask as nothing has changed. Well thats simple its just that the drivers are no longer using LFS
Maybe the dev's are working on the all important Yupik and inuit language packs, next after that must be Aramaic, Ugaritic, Akkadian, Maltese and welsh language packs.
The skills to decode rare, endangered and minority languages are of increasing importance to LFS, say academics in the field.
When we get those you watch as all the missing users flock back.
There will be a new version before LFS gets this one...
But i agree, the devs could make a ALMS prototype even it was just putting a body on a tweaked F08 and it would give LFS a new lease of life (for a couple of months)
I think the worst thing the devs have done is not help all those who run (Well ran) servers and leagues. I cut from 8 to 4 servers last year and i dont see much reason to have any when they are up fro renewal this year
LFS could certainly learn one thing from iRacing. Give the users small changes but often, rather than all this bull about its coming but no date. With iRacing its a free update every 3 months, with new pay stuff in between and there seems to be no one moaning about how slow developement is or asking when X will come.
However iRacing could certainly learn a lot from LFS in how simple it is to race multicar with who you want.
One of the biggest things in motor racing is trying to beat your team mates and this is 100% missing in iRacing.
They are both great sims but for different markets
Many of the well known ex.LFS crowd race iRacing these days, if you are serious about racing then its very good, but if you just want some racing fun where you join when you want and can race with your mates LFS is better.
They both feel different but you soon get used to that.
The main thing that i find better in iRacing is there is something new coming out every few weeks, something that most of us wish LFS would do, and if they did a new car and track, and a bit of an update every 3 months there would be no such thing as iRacing.
And most of us would be willing to pay for it in the same way.
Now if its the best sim then nKpro takes some beating but it also need more cars and tracks.
Good man, but i would say it would be better for the community and the site to do it in smaller sections so people can download smaller one track packs.
Also at the same time upload packs with the original stuff in.
anyway just to explain to everyone, as at today
lfsdatabase.net forwards to lfsdatabase.eu
lfsdatabase.eu is live and growing
lfsdatabase.com is dead and goes to a hosting holding page
I am afraid thats not the way things work, you will have to route out the files and upload them yourself at the start, most people will say nothing as long as you give credit to them. If you dont, the site is doomed.
Think of yourself as a shop keeper, the customers will only visit once and if they dont find what they want they will leave and try another shop.
As the shop keeper you have to get the stock to keep the customers supplied and its the shop keeper who has to contact the suppliers.
At the moment you are the only shop so no one gives a shit what the shop looks like as long as they can get what they want.
When you first start to do something thats been done you have to be better, and its no good saying we will have stock when someone brings us some, you have to go get it.
There is 3 things that make a great website or game
1) Content
2) More Content
Um, are yes, what was the other, ah, that would be
3) More good content
Your problem at the moment is that your shop does not have much in stock. Not long ago there was this other shop that stocked loads and everyone used it, but it closed but maybe its going to reopen.
The fact is if you are not pro-active in putting up what people want quickly, so your site has the content for every visitor it will only be used while its the only shop and when there is a better one customers will use it.
All customers are loyal right up to the time you dont give them what they expect, but you lose them if you take them for granted, are not interested in what they say or there is something better
A bit like LFS (Oppps)
So its down to you, get the content to get the visitors.
To be fair i have said all along that we can have several places to download stuff, the best will come to the top and be used.
but face facts your domain goes nowhere and until it does there is only one choice.
Bose and Rocklan will need to get stuff on their site so it can be downloaded and make improvements that people ask for else it wont be used.
If they put in the effort then it will be the place to go to download stuff, if they dont then maybe when your domain goes somewhere we can compare
As it is at this moment there is only one lfsdatabase so this whole argument is rather stupid.
You are pushing the point "It will not be just as the original database. It will be much better in every aspect." and this seems to be an LFS thing, LFS will be better when S3 comes out but until it does we cant tell if it is.
A bit like your database, and just like LFS S3 i look forward to seeing it but i will not hold my breath waiting.
This is typical of the LFS community. and it pisses me off,
Someone makes a database calling it LFSdatabase and its used by the community.
It was used but then they lets it die, so it closed down, and no longer worked.
Several people ask why but get no answer, so Rocklan and Bose do another for the community and i pay for the domain and the hosting.
I have nothing to do with it and have no idea who Rocklan or Bose are I simply wanted the database back
Now as soon as it goes live those involved with the old one take the hump and old one suddenly being re-written and the people who built the new one are flamed for doing it.
I have no problem with there being 10 databases but for pitys sake stop flaming people who do things for the community.
We have enough problems with the devs of LFS doing little for us without flaming those who do
After spending hours and hours on LFS and years waiting for new content, LFS is not dead, its in hibernation, think of it as a dormant seed just waiting to burst into life again.
The Devs asked everyone who has been moaning about the wait, to use other games and thats what most have done.
Do i miss my pals and close racing on LFS - YES
Will I use it without any update - VERY LITTLE
Is it currently the best sim - NO
What will bring it back to life - REGULAR NEW CONTENT, BETTER SOUNDS, etc etc etc
Have i had value for money - Best £24 i ever spent on any game
Would i come back - HELL YES
Do i think this sort of post does anything to help - NOT A CHANCE
Face facts guys, to develop a game to a certain level must be great fun for the dev's, but to finish one must be a huge burden.
After a while it must get stale and to go to the next level must be hard, and that's the point the LFS dev's have reached.
You see it every day on the net, just look at the websites that have been made and are excellent but just not finished, their devs just stop short and leave all those "Under construction" pages about. They then dont update for years but the site still gets visitors.
After a few years there is normally a burst of energy and the site lives again or the site goes missing and thats where LFS is at the moment.
Come on guys stop all the crap, who cares. In my town we have 9 supermarkets and the customers choose which one they use.
Its the same in LFS for servers so why not for a LFSDatabase
If someone wants to do another, then so be it, the users will decide which is best and which they use.
Bose and Rocklan: imho i think charging anything will be an anti-use system as will advertising different levels but its up to you, its your site and just like the devs you do what you want
but please please stop the flame wars, it does no good.
Lets get this straight, in no way do i want any money from you or anyone else, I did supply this in support of the LFS community, that was not the point of my post.
My point was that there was nothing on the site to say my team, ConeDodgers [CD] had even helped you in any way.
and Bose you simply missed saying thanks on the site, nothing else
Does seem a bit strange that i supplied and paid for the domain and web hosting, Yet ConeDodgers, CD or myself dont even get a thank you, . pro membership, kiss your arse or anything.
Never mind, that's how the modern world is.
Now in my day...................................................
Our Team does race other sims, we have 2 servers on nKpro, others on GTR Evo, plus iRacing, what i was saying is that 3 members had held off paying for iRacing on the understanding that the LFS update was just around the corner but lets face facts its months away and if Scawen is only working on it when he feels like it its most likely years away.
And no, Rockingham and GTR Updates will not save LFS but at least it would get a bit of buzz back while the big one arrives. Over the last 14 weeks every Thursday we use different tracks and cars but we have run out unless we do AS1 in the BF1 and the like.
Last night it was KY2 with the MRT, great fun for an hour
The point is that some of us dont want to go at all and something new, "ANYTHING NEW" would help, but i get the feeling that the next thing we will get is a language pack for the planet Zarg or something else we dont use. (I dont speak zargian )
I am sorry to say that the devs have taken LFS from number 1 to an also ran and yes they will all come back when the update comes out, for about 2 months but i think they need to add something every 2 months to keep people happy
I think Scawen's update tell it as it is, he is no longer giving LFS 100% as he did up to the BF1 and we will have to wait until he feels like it to do more.
What i cant understand is why Rockingham and the GTR dashes Etc cannot be put out now, we have used the current tyre physics for years and they are OK (Not perfect but we use them) and you are not telling me that the physics are holding up everything else.
I remember the pole which clearly showed that a GT Prototype was the one thing users wanted so another quick fix would be to release a FO8 based GT with a LMS body.
Just after Scawen's post 3 more of our team signed up to iRacing and its getting harder to find a reason to support LFS any more.