Merry Christmas and a fast New Year from ConeDodgers

Quote from geeman1 :

It's the transmission. It is supposed to be like that. FZR is a race car and thats what race cars sound like.

In that case i dont think you have ever been in a race car, 4 years ago i owned a 911RSR Race car with a dog box and about 560bhp and huge slicks and it sounded nothing like the current FZR.

Transmission noise in a race car is nothing like that in LFS, for one thing it changes pitch with each gear where as LFS (FZR) is speed related. On mine top gear was 1 to 1 so the input shaft and the output shaft were turning at the same speed so in top there was very little noise.

The new FZR sound is more like a vacuum cleaner than a race car. In my old 911 if you came out of a corner in 2nd and went hard up through the gears it gave a rough, powerful sound, it growled like a wild animal not a hair dryer.

I hate to say it but in the case of the FZR, even GTR2 sounds are far better, and far more like the real thing.

When i first started with LFS the sounds were one of its weak points and i think in the case of the FZR the new sounds are a huge step backwards.

I truly hope that the Devs do something about early in the new year as it is truly awful and not at all an improvement.

I run ConeDodgers, possibly the most used GTR server on LFS, and everyone is moaning about the FZR sound,and using some choice words. Several racers have said there is no way they will update till the sound improves.

Quote from DanneDA :

The new sounds are great. Good work Scawen!

I think we could have confusion here because of the sounds in different driving positions.

I still think the old U28 FZR sounds were much better than U36 however i do like the gear click (Louder please)

DanneDA says the sounds are great and he drives a FZR normally when on ConeDodgers the same as me, but he drives in "custom view" sitting on the bonnet.

I have tried that and the sound is much better than the one when in the more normal drivers seat view that most of us use.

Its difficult to compare notes if we all use different driving positions and are so hearing different sounds.

As i want LFS to be a sim, and so as close to the real thing as possible i only driver in the drivers view even though i can get faster times in other views, using then makes me feel like i am cheating.

In the drivers view the engine is just to perfectly smooth like a road car, race cars with that amount of power are just not like that. Race engines used on circuits have a smaller power band than a road car and when outside of that power band sound as rough as hell. The current FZR sound from U36 sound pack gets rid of the boom but it still need balls and downright noise. Perhaps using the current outside engine sound inside would help a pit as a stop gap.

I would ask DanneDA to try the sounds inside the car and see what he thinks so we are all singing from the same hymm sheet, so to speak.

Last edited by birder, Fri 22 Dec 2006, 11:11.

Since U36 i am getting hanging going from single player, garage and other screens. The revolving car stops and everything hangs for about 10 seconds.

Also had a strange message when closing down.

"Connect 2 Closing" then "Connect 1 Closing"

I have also checked other car sounds and most have a Band of high sound at about 2/3 throttle with low volume after.

Quote from tristancliffe :

I just got that too - very odd.

Me too,

Plus the FZR sound in U36 is even worse, at 5000 to 6000rpm is starts to make an engine sound then it goes away to just the vacuum cleaner.

I am a FZR fan so i have tried and tried the new sounds but still dislike it and the other GTR's.

I have uet to find anyone on Conedodgers who has a good word for them.

I keep trying to try tp expalin what they sound like but could not come up with anything,

Washing Machine, Poorly tuned radio, but then my wife shouted are you using the vacuum cleaner.

I have to agree with her in a test the FZR is now almost the same as my wifes Dyson.

Please give the GTR's some balls like race cars rather than a road car.

Quote from Scawen :

It's not illegal to pit then (that could not be done in a compatible version) but it doesn't count as your required pit stop.

If you don't pit again before the end, you will receive a 30 second time penalty when you pass the first split on your final lap, or be disqualified if you already have a time penalty for some other reason.

However in my testing i have always joined midrace so i am a lap down and get no penalty and are not disqualified which gets me a better grid slot for the next race on the servers which are set for finish order.

Quote from Scawen :

I've just released the U33 dedicated host.

In U33 dedicated host only, I've added some code which penalises players who use the "teleport to pits from start line" cheat to save themselves half a pitlane drive when they are on a host running the "must pit" rule.

Upgraded to U33 on ConeDodgers, just joined a race and used Shift+S to Garage and pitted going out the garage, so it does not seem to work.

Is there any extra setting in the cfg?

1) Wastegate

OE wastegates open to a dump valve which dumps back into the air intake so make no noise, its only the add on "Open to air" dump valves that make the sound, and you certainly do not need a dump valve if you are under 300bhp on a 2ltr engine.

2) Sounds

I have tried U32 and U33 and can see very little difference. On U30 my speakers were set to 3 i now have to set them to 8 (max 10) to get the same level, i still cannot hear the skids unless the i have them at max and other sound at min.

The sounds are all to perfect, cars on track are just not like that, they have far to much drone. I race the FZR mainly and its gone from a beast to a tame pussy cat. Since first trying LFS i think sound has always been one of the biggest issues and i do hope that the current sounds are miles away from the finished article. Over the last 2 days on ConeDodgers i have yet to find one person who says they are an improvement.

I hate to say it but at the moment GTR2 and GTL beat LFS in the sound depertment even if they are miles behind in others.

Went from U30 to U32, so used a unlock, but could not race with the new sounds as they gave me a headache with the constant drone.

I also found that the lack of skid noise made me slower.

So i went Back to U30, using another unlock

No unlocks left so sorry but cannot try U33.

I have sent an email but still no unlocks

I think you will find there are several people in the same boat.

Edit: Unlocks arrived - Thanks

Last edited by birder, Mon 18 Dec 2006, 20:14.

Hi

I have upgraded [CD] ConeDodgersRacing 1, 2 and 3 to U32 this morning and several racers, including myself are getting a warning.

"Your skin cannot be found at www.lfsworld.net"

Yet the skin can be seen by other players and is present on LFSW

Several have tried uploading the skin again but it make no difference

The message comes up after few seconds when you go on track, however it does not seem to be everyone.

I have also put this in the patch post section

Hi

I have upgraded [CD] ConeDodgersRacing 1, 2 and 3 to U32 this morning and several racers, including myself are getting a warning.

"Your skin cannot be found at www.lfsworld.net"

Yet the skin can be seen by other players and is present on LFSW

Several have tried uploading the skin again but it make no difference

The message comes up after few seconds when you go on track, however it does not seem to be everyone.

Quote from Lotesdelere :

Back to the topic, I've just made some tests on some U32 servers and I'm a bit disappointed to see that there is still the ability to pit in lap 0
This is a major issue for races with forced pit stop and I really hope that it'll be fixed for patch V

Agreed this is causing problems in the LFS: GTR League and many of our public races, please do this ASAP is possible

U32 seams fine, still get a few clicks whien selecting cars and other options as if its waiting to load but not as bad as U30

Sounds are getting there but on race cars it needs to be more raw and not so perfect. They boom so much they are giving me a headache

http://www.renaudkuppens.be/vi ... board_imola_FIA_GT_HQ.wmv gives an idea of a Dog Box whine. Currently U32 is a bit like a washing machine spinning up and down as its all revs related, with a Dog Box in a race car the sound is more suspension and bounce related as well.

The BF1, enough said....

Finally if you can take the Potato out of the GTR's exhausts the sound would be more like it.

Last edited by birder, Sun 17 Dec 2006, 19:07.

Quote from Dajmin :

There is a big difference between not wanting someone to spam the hell out of everyone and not obeying the flag. I'll obey the flag itself, but not some random pleb who thinks they rule the world because they're faster than someone.

ConeDodgers servers are filtter with LFSLapper and we consider spamming and swearing as un-sporting, if you spam LFSLapper is set to give you a Drive-through penalty automatically which normally gets the reaction of "This is Bullsh*t" or some other such comment, however it works as normally the person stops spamming.

Also as the server is so full we attract a number of drivers who use Shift+S several times in a race, using Shift+S is the main cause of Blue flag incidents.

On [CD]1 (AS3) we have had 5 people record 1:39.xx lap times, 100's in the 1:40's and over 1000 in the 1:41 range. The main problem is when 2 cars are of similar times yet one is a lap ahead, it is very difficult for a 1:42 driver to pass another 1:42 driver who has used Shift+S and a lap or more behind so the driver being lapped MUST obey the blue flag.

It is very difficult to "police" a full server, to stop spamming and stop all blue flag problems but one thing is clear on our servers is that using "/ban xxxxx 0" makes the problem go away for about 12 hours.

I will also say to anyone who will not obey the blue flag rule, please do not use our servers.

Last edited by birder, Mon 11 Dec 2006, 11:43.

I must say you are very lucky getting onto the ConeDodgers Server as its normally full and even luckier to stay on if you do not obey the blue flag.

Admin will warn you once, kick you once and then ban you for 12 hours, that is if the other drivers have not already banned you by voting.

At ConeDodgers we have the following in our rules which are as clear as we can make them.

Blue Flag
One or more competitors are about to lap you. You must hold your course and allow them to pass UNIMPEDED. You must make sure you change speed and leave room to be passed. DO NOT RACE A CAR THAT IS A LAP AHEAD.

Should you pass a slower car and then find you get a blue flag warning you can carry on but MUST NOT IMPEAD THEM IN ANY WAY.

In both the LFS: GTR League and on the ConeDodgers servers, not obeying the blue flag is considered unsporting and anyone doing so with have points deducted or may be forced to leave the server.

I would just like to thank you for this application.

We are using it for the results LFS: GTR League at

http://www.conedodgers.co.uk/results

Great job.

Quote from tomylee :

No sorry, can't be. It's to obvious. There is something with my computer and the LFS what is making trubble.

I have watched the ConeDodgers servers for weeks now, trying to get to the bottom of the disconnects. We have moved servers, buildings, computers and U, U20 and now U30 and notice its normally the same people who get disconnected all the time and cause the server problems.

Of the six regular "disconnectors" i am sorry you are one of them.

I have said to you before that you have problems with your ISP and i still think you have. Give your ISP the IP number of the server and ask them to look into it.

Regards

Hi

I run ConeDodgers and both our servers are with 500 Servers. So i would like to tell you a story of just what 500Servers are like.

First i rent one server 23 slot with lapper, as a bit of fun so i dont have to use the other servers that always seen to have wreckers on. I like AS3 and GTR's like a lot of others so I have the idea to start the LFS: GTR League so the racing has a bit of meaning. 120 drivers join and in 10 days 2000 drivers record times in Lappers PB.txt.

Even a 1:39.87

So i get another server, again 23 slot with lapper

Both servers were full all the time for days and days and one still is

We then start to get several disconnects and a couple of mass-disconnects and Franky tells me its either the LFS Net code or Races with bad connections and as he is not getting the same problems with other servers he did not see how it could be the server. I contacted the devs who tell me its not the code and every driver assures me it not "thier connection".

What happened next shows you just what Franky500 of 500 servers tried, working round the clock, to find the problem for several days.

First he moves the servers to a new box, then another box in another buliding, he re-installs every thing, updates everything. Goes from U20 back to U then to U30. He worked his Balls off.

Finally the buzz of Conedodgers calmed down a bit and he was not satisfied with the ping so moved it all again.

Without doubt his service is second to none, yes i agree he is not available 24/7 but then nor am i.

I have wantched my servers and others and feel that poor connections is the main problem as its the same people over and over again. Its amazing how if you /ban one of them the problem stops until the ban comes off.

But tell them they are causing a problem and all you get is an ear bashing and how they have a 500gig ADSL so its not them.

I would highly recommend 500 Servers to anyone.

Hi

Not a bug but thought it better here than improvements.

As you are working on mirrors, any chance of making the vitual mirror have a small "wing" mirror on each end of the virtual mirror so racers can see down both sides of the car, more like real life

Currently you can only see a wing mirror in real view, and then only one side, left in a LHD and right in a RHD, so one side is always a blind spot.

Being able to see both side may cut out a few "you turned into me" accidents.

Quote from aorman :

Does LFSLapper offer exporting of !top list to separate .txt file? What I mean is that I'd like to export a list of current TOP 10 PBs on my LFS server and save it as .TXT file - every time a new TOP 10 PB is being set. What for? I would like to include the contents of the exported .txt file on my website.

No, Lapper records in to a simple text file with records such as these

Nickname
Car
Time
Track
Split1
Split2
Split3

Lapper sorts these into order on the fly for !top but the file is not in order

Quote from gwendoline :

U can downlod it here http://frhteamstat.free.fr/mods/LFSLapper3.4u.zip

Caution this version is dedied to S2 servers. Using this one on demo mode at your own risks.

Caution2: this new version integrate date of PB now...format has changed...dont forget save your old txt. This version is not compatible with your old PB times files saved.

All installed and working fine, thank you very much

Cannot find your server but would very much like this version as soon as possible. At the moment on ConeDodgers 1we have 1000.s of duplicate names and this would help greatly.

Can i test it as well?

As this seems to be getting out of hand and until i get an answer from Aura i have banned all three of them.

Quote from BigDave2967 :

That's "aura" aka RudolfR back on, and boasting about my msn saying "goodbye to your msn" Big whoop!

Have a cookie. illepall

I am on the server and they are not there