Quote from spuddyss :

Well im not sure what the connection is on it because i have had it a month i dont worrie about those things it runs 12 people on each server no lagg at all.

You seem a bit unsure so i dont think you will get many takers. I will stick with 500Servers as all my servers from them run 20 drivers with a low ping.

Thier support is great and they are very helpful, they even test the server as the have taken the time to buy a S2 licence, something you seem to have forgotten.

Thanks, but no thanks

Just thought Franky should make a guest appearance on all his servers on 500Servers day.

No problem there then.....

Great idea, i hope i can get on one of my 500Servers as they are normally full anyway

What about all sending in a support request at the same time on the day as well just to bring a smile to Franky's face

Sort of a thank you spam.......

At Conedodgers ([CD] 1 Servers is set to AS3 10 laps + Pit) 99% of people who get blue flags have used Shift+S or joined midrace.

Most races are 17.05 to 17.30 minutes long so no driver on the pace would ever get a blue flag.

We give a warning, kick once and then ban for drivers not obeying the blue flag.

We feel the word "UNIMPEDED" is the important one in our rules.

Our rules state:

Blue Flag
One or more competitors are about to lap you. You must hold your course and allow them to pass UNIMPEDED. You must make sure you change speed and leave room to be passed. DO NOT RACE A CAR THAT IS A LAP AHEAD.

Should you pass a slower car and then find you get a blue flag warning you can carry on but MUST NOT IMPEDE THEM IN ANY WAY.

# 33

I did my first race win with it in a real car in 1980

Quote from djgizmo68 :

I Have that, but it doesnt seem to work, it just says "/Spec {username}" when they pit...

The readme says

# Actions to execute when player teleports to pits by options or SHIFT+S.
# If more actions, separate them with '|'.

EnterPitAction = /msg {Nickname}^1 NO TELEPORTING TO PITS!!!|/spec {Username}

You have missed the | to separate the actions

Remember RTFM.....

Last edited by birder, Fri 9 Feb 2007, 20:08.

Quote from Linsen :

And even the STCC server is not an actual league, so you should probably get S2 and join OLFSL (link). OLFSL is perfect for starters imho AND for dedicated fast drivers - there's something in it for everybody .

Get yourself S2 and join the LFS: GTR League

details on our website

Simply make an option setting,

Number plate - on or off

That way with the option set to off, no plate is shown and you could have what you want on your skin for those who want something special or nothing

I race FZR most of the time and i hate the Patch V sounds. I think your sound is about as good as you will get it with the current system.

So its a considerable improvement.

LFS 0/10
Yours 1/10

Back to CSR

Today i had a PM from Bean0 saying
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Hi there
It has been brought to my attention that your team is using skins that look as though they are an edited version of one of my public skins.
Just wondering your position on this.
Cheers
Bean0
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The PM had links to his NUFC skin and my ConeDodgers skin
I answered with
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Sorry, but I have no real comment to make that will change anything, the first skin in red and black was sent to me by a user and even though it does look a lot like the skin you show if rather different, and their are a lot of skins that are similar to this.
If the person did get the idea from your skin then i dont think he did anything wrong as all skins are downloaded into the skinx folder and as such are public.
Most of the fine detail on your skin is for NUFC and on our the skin background is normally carbon, also i think the rear is very different.
I am not sure what you expect from me or what you expect me to do even if he did copy your skin idea.
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BeanO cam back with
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Thanks for replying.
I had no way of knowing how you came to be using the skin and was curious, and it does bear a remarkable resemblance to the NUFC version (the 2 decals on the upper right of the bonnet seem unchanged).
If you want, I would be happy to do some high res versions for you. All I would want in return would be my web address on the skin somewhere.
Obviously I can't stop you using the ones you have at the moment if you choose to, but I think you can see where I'm coming from.
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I replied
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I have just asked the guy who sent me it and he assures me he did it himself, but when i put his and yours together some of it is in the same position so i think someone is telling me a bit of bullshit.
With 100's of versions out there i dont think i could ask people to put on your website as its hard enough to get them to put on our own.
hrttp://www.conedodgers.co.uk/gallery shows some of the versions.
Lets swap website links
Also being an Aston Villa fan if i had known it was a NUFC skin there is no way we would have used it (lol)
All the best
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Bean0 replied
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You'll be wanting us to beat Birmingham tonight then? :P
Glad this hasn't turned into a slanging match though, it really wasn't my intention.
As far as I am concerned the matter is closed, happy racing.

My comments

I would like to thank BeanO for his understanding but think i should comment with the following points

1) If a skin is made by one person and someone changes it, removing the names etc and then sends it to another person as thiers, how can anyone be sure.
2) As the skinx folder is the easiest way to look at skins, and the devs have not made these encrypted this will always be a problem. We had a huge bust up between the [MG] team and new LFSer they other week over the use of a skin
3) I fully understand that bean0 most likely made the NUFC skin but I have had an email today from another person saying in fact he made the orgional.
4) All the skins have copyright issues, Bean0's from NUFC and mine from him, MG Racing from MG Blah Blah Blah
5) ConeDodgers would have asked permission if they were aware
6) LFS is a game and we all take it much to serious.
7) Does it really matter as who is ever going to take legal action on such a point.

Well done to beanO for his attitude

Quote from JasonJ :

Sorry I couldn't confirm my theory, (I was at a place I cant really test LFS) anyway I tested it after work and if you leave LFS open and edit the cfg.txt file, any changes to the file are erased/lost when you close LFS. So close LFS BEFORE you edit the cfg.txt file.

No LFS running, No companion yet it still does it. Never mind i will just have to change it each time i start.

Thanks

I hate the Patch V FZR sound so i use CSR but the setting in cfg.txt

OutGauge Mode 2

keeps changing back to

OutGauge Mode 0

every session

Any ideas why?

Quote from Gai-Luron :

Hello,

Here Lapper 3.6 with bug fix:

Bye

Gai-Luron

Fitted and working, thanks

Quote from Gai-Luron :

Hello,


Yes there is a bug when a pilot change his nickname on track, i correct this bug, i test it ans i send a new version with some correction ans some improvement in FTP send.

Sorry for this..


Gai-Luron

3.6 is working great on ConeDodgers but keeps stopping for no reason, is this what happens with your bug?

If it is any idea when you will have time to fix it as i am having to restart lapper ever hour or so.

We have also found that where you said

"4. Add new command in cfg : ShowSplitPB = true or false to display split information or Not"

I am sure this refers to the lapper cfg and in [CD] case we have this set to true

I am not sure if you are aware but one of our users has found that if he adds ShowSplitPB = false to his LFS cfg he can off the display if he wants. (Great feature)

Thanks

http://www.conedodgers.co.uk/conedodgers/lfslapper.html is a page for our users that may be of interest.

The codes etc are not as they are in the cfg but give users an idea why things happen.

Monk: Any chance of a "take x seconds off my lap time" action........

Last edited by birder, Fri 5 Jan 2007, 11:43.

From some of the posts you can see that any form of licence starts all the arguments. He said that, you did this seems to go with running servers but in the same way that typing /ban xxx 0 magically makes problem go away i think anything that gets us servers full of good drivers is a good thing.

Becky:

I would only get involved at all if this is controlled by one place and i think your MSA "National A" idea is great.

I can understand that people would have to earn their licence but i would see [CD] 1 being set to GTR's and AS3 from the start with drivers earning points towards their "National" or above. [CD] 2 would become our higher licence server only allowing National and above, but would also be set to GTR and AS3.

However i do feel that there must be some fast-track system for some racers. On [CD] 1 we use 10 laps with a pit, and have quite a few racers doing well below 17:20 for a full race and in my eyes if you can do that you dont need to prove anything.

I dont see how i can ask D1 champion, Csimpok, D1 runner up, Lucky Luke and several others to take a driving test to get their Licence.

I also see in your top 50, one name at least that has been banned on my servers.

Also does your system allow the use of lapper?

Last edited by birder, Thu 4 Jan 2007, 13:13.

I think that most of us simply want good racing. At Conedodgers we have 3 servers, 2 are empty all the time (Other than on league dates) but [CD] 1 is always full.

Typically there are 23 on the [CD] 1 server

Out of the 20 that could race, 5 or more will be doing a few laps and shift+s for going off. If you say anything to them they just dont understand what they are doing wrong.

And out of those , 2 or more, will be new to LFS. The fact is that the faster racers (Not one lap wonders) want to race against faster racers without the "new drivers" being in the way but the only way we can do that at the moment is to kick them for no reason.

Any licence system would be a help as this would mean the slower drivers earning their way upto the faster servers.

Now, for what i see as could be a problem

95% of ConeDodgers visitors drive GTR's on AS3 all the time and they would not want to go through all the other cars and other tracks to get a licence.

I agree with Becky that a MSA type licence would be great but in the same way that you can get an International A licence for driving a 850 mini rally car or a F3000 you should not need to be able to drive every car on every track.

I had a MSA International A licence which i gained for doing offroad racing at the lowest level yet it covered me for rallies, circuits Etc.

The licence should not be about speed but race craft, obeying the rules of the track, not getting annoyed or being rude, not swearing Etc Etc Etc.

The poins system maybe the only way this can be done without loads of manual work but you should be able to earn points using the same car on the same track.

If this is possible ConeDodgers would join the system but if [CD] users have to use S1 type cars on a track they hate to get a licence then i cant see it working because they just will not bother.

We now have over 5000 names that have recorded a time faster than 1:46 on [CD] 1 using LFSLapper so i must take that into account.

Last edited by birder, Thu 4 Jan 2007, 12:07.

Quote from Scawen :

I think there really needs to be a /log command. At the moment it can only be changed by restarting the host - and that's not good.

Thank for for reminding me of your kind offer. I would like to go to a track day this year. Though we're also trying to get S2 "finished" sooner rather than later. Finished in quote marks because it will still be developed after being "final". It just won't be alpha or beta any more. I also need to move house at some point because it's a bit hard working in such a small house with a baby who makes so much noise when he is finished amusing himself and his mother is in the middle of something but HE wants her attention, or when he's tired, or when his nappy is changed, or... or... whatever hundreds of things make him MOAN so many times a day! It would be very nice if there wasn't just one thin floor between me and him haha he's so cute but does he MOAN!!!

Anyway my point is I want to get on the track reasonably soon and I hope this year though I see a busy (but good) year ahead of me!

Just email me when you need a rest from the baby and the missus and the screen, but i agree keep working on S2

1) FZR Sounds
2) ............

Couls you PM me or email me with the best area for you so i can keep you informed of dates

Regards

Quote from Scawen :

had a digit wrong which caused many racers to be kicked

Not to worry, my wife said a had a digit wrong on her "shoes & handbag allowance" and i got kicked for that, so thats twice in one day

Quote from Scawen :

OK, there must have been at least *some* message for each person who got disconnected. Like "X disconnected" or "Lost connection to X" or "X timed out".

Do you have logging switched on, on the host? "Log Messages" in cfg.txt - can be set to 1.

Happy new year!

Our servers are run by Franky500 (500Servers) so as he will be reading this maybe he will set the servers to log messages, It may help sort this problem out.

By the way, we allso get the MP-stash message and its normally 2 people who are disconnected and sometimes more than 2.

Have a great 2007, and are you taking up my offer of a Free trackday this year....

Quote from franky500 :

Ignore my one. I just realised it was still on U20. sorry.

If you are talking about the mass-disconnect on [CD] 1 it was on V not U20.

Quote from Scawen :

Birder, were there any error messages when there was a mass disconnection?

I need much better descriptions, if I am to ever improve anything. I need the number of racers that were disconnected, the number of racers that were not disconnected. What was happening at the time (e.g. someone joined, someone left, someone was lagging badly). Also need to know any error messages that were displayed.

I need to see some kind of a pattern, in order to try and deduce what could be the problem.

I am not sure if this was not something to do with the server company and not LFS. Franky500 has told me they had a problem at about that time, but we cannot be sure.

In the previous post he says it was on U20, but it was showing as V in the master server so i am not sure he talking about the same one.

All 23 were disconnected with no message. If it happens again i will post the full details.

Thanks, Happy new year

We have just had a mass-disconnect on a full server using V so its still not right with 23 connections

Similar problem here, its as if LFS gets in a sound loop and hangs the machine. If i wait for 20 or 30 seconds it sometimes comes out of the loop but once its done it, it will always do it again and again until i do a total system restart.

I notice it happens if i use a window more often than if i use full screen.

Quote from mrodgers :

Sorry folks, the problem isn't the Redline Servers (or Conedodger's for the GTR/AS3).

LET'S GO, RACING COMMUNITY! LET'S GO RACE SOMETHING ELSE FOR A CHANGE!!!! 800+ combinations (or unfortunately just 2 combos if you want to actually race with other humans.)

At ConeDodgers we have 3 servers

[CD] 1 on AS3 for GTR's - Always full
[CD] 2 on WE1 for GTR's - Was full for the first 3 days but now empty
[CD] 3 on AS1 for MRT - Was full for the first 3 days but now empty

The main thing is the server having someone on to start with. If i logon to [CD] 2 or 3 first thing in the morning, so the server appears in the (full) list on the master server others join and once you get 5 drivers on the server it will fill up and stay full most of the day, but once it gets below 5 it will soon empty.

What people want is full grids which in turn gives good races, they seem to like to have a moan and chat, swap sets and ideas.

People race FOX as its easy to drive.
People drive GTR's as they look good.
People drive AS3 as its easy to learn

So if you want people to race another combo simply logon to an empty server. Get 4 other mates to race with you and the server will fill up.

If they all leave its because they dont like the combo nothing more and nothing less, normally thats because they have never tried it before and can't post a good time.

I have tried it and can get a server full within an hour but out of the 800 combos, only a few combos will stay full without a lot of effort.

"Build it and they will come"