Quote from tade :

OK so I've done my daily laps at AS2 w/FOX and then I thought I'd join CD3 for a few more laps. And I have this guy [K]Hash_Gordon or something like that who rams me once at T1, he clearly didnt break...much. Obviously I got off the track and he overtook me.

At the next lap (@T1) he rams the guy in front of me (can't remember his name), I see it clearly, they're like 10m in front of me. Unlike my accident though, they both spin. He clearly fell on the guy, he used him as a break for god's sake! I overtake both and Gordon_whoever is like 3" behind me. He eventually catches up and does the same thing! Hits me again from behind. All within 4-5 laps.

I decided I've had enough, complain, explain and vote to kick him. The other guy (who got rammed too) joins the voting and we both explain that this Gordon_whoever is a not-so-very-clean-driver (to say the least!)

You can imagine the result... Some of his teammates start laughing at us, I get blamed for being a whiner/childish/stupid/whatever, I get insulted, being told to go to my momma and 2-3 guys (who maybe knew gordon_whoever, Doghouse was one) take his part and blame us for the crash, say that's racing, stop whining etc.

I've run about 7000 laps, joined around 700 hosts (the numbers are not so great, I know, but I'm not a new player) and never before have I seen behaviour like this. This is truly sick.

I've had enough with these servers...:grumpy:

I dont think its the servers fault, if you have a replay please send it to colin@conedodgers.co.uk so i can see. Its impossible to sort out without one.

Quote from Kickker :

Hi CD guys, been playing on your server for a week now.
Loving every second of it, apart from when someone started a ban vote for no reason agaisnt me.

Having asked the guy why he was trying to bad me, I was called a w***er. Which got him kicked, He then logged back on and started the vote again.

Any chance i can get the ban overturned as im getting so close to the target time.

Also isnt a straight ban a bit harsh?

Again great server guys and a great job you have been doing

A vote ban lasts 12 hours

Quote from AlienT. :

I have achieved the license goal of 1:44.4 a few times in the past few days both the FXR and FZR, but I cannot join CD2? I don't mind racing in CD1 anyway btw. Is there more of a requirement than achieving the target time to become licensed for CD2?

Thanks,

Struan

As i have said it a manual thing so you will be in the next update whenever i do it.

The update takes 2 hours so please dont chase for it

Quote from Craig WA :

Hi,

I am a Silver CTRA racer (a slow one) who was banned on Conedodgers Server One last night after someone else rammed me be from behind.

I have always made a point of not driving like an idiot.

This is the first time I have been kicked off a server since I started playing LFS in January.

I have the MPR file to send to you if you like.

Who do I send it to to get unbanned.

Cheers Craig

We dont discuss bans, but if it was a vote it only lasts 12 hours, if it was an admin ban you must have done something.

Quote from m.odonoghue :

i race on your server alot and i seem to be stuck in the 1:46 to 1:47 (alot of work to do) but one thing that onoys me is people joining after the start. perhaps put a no mid race join restriction on the server it would save alot of hassel and also maybe making it less racers

but good server

We tried that but the moans were massive.

So far i have been asked to disable voting on the public servers and no midrace join.

Maybe if i do that, the Licensed drivers will move over to CD2 and CD4 where those setting will not be implemented.

I have also had several requests to move the CD1 target time down to 1:43 and CD3 to down to 0:53.5

That will still give us over 2000 Licensed drivers.

One thing i am going to do is revoke the Licenses of those who do not use the Licensed servers as it seems silly giving them a License they dont ever use.

It has also been suggested that i change the track on CD3 once a week, what do think about that idea?

Last edited by birder, Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:53.

Quote from Thill :

got a replay for yo this time the message appeared "drive or spectate" (or whatever it is exacly) even thou i was already spectating , but I guess it would kick me to spectate again if I were driving.

If you can send me the replay to colin@conedodgers.co.uk

Thanks

Quote from Thill :

ehh still with the drunk monkey even thou I admited Imight have worded it wrong.. No comment.

OK then, it could have been another admin, but it was not me

Quote from Thill :

1) Kick to spectator is automatic if you dont move for 30 seconds, thats a lapper setting, it first warns you to move and 10 seconds later your are sent to spectate

Thats all great and all but I was in the middle of a race DRIVIG when I was kicked to spectator, read my post one more time I tried to explain the whole situation as best as I could and dont really want to do it again in this one.

On another issue I guess the whole drunken monkey was as much my fault for bad wording as you for I guess bad understanding of my intention so you said sorry to me so it is only fair I appologise to You for that Sorry mate next time I'll consider the more serious side of those kind of sentences before I post them

I have no idea about the spectate, lapper is the only automatic control we have on CD3. If it does it again please save the replay.

Or

Maybe it was another 1 eyed drunken monkey that has Admin access did it..... But not me.

Quote from AlienT. :

Hey Birder, things ain't so bad mate. I'm sure a lot of people are having fun on your servers, I know I am. You can only do so much . I suggest you relax a bit, you can't please all of the people all of the time as they say.

I think the reason there are issues on your servers is because of the simple fact that the GTR cars by their very nature are more difficult to control at speed, especially overtaking manoevers with limited visability and a full grid, accidents are bound to happen. I'm really not sure what else you can do with public servers? Admin, I would imagine, is not an easy experience on popular public servers.

Origionally i thought CD3 being full was a flash in the pan but since it was setup its been full most of the time. As i said in an earlier post all i can do is keep having a look and sort the few people causing problems to try to sort it out.

Last edited by birder, Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:19.

Quote from HEAVYSET :

I'm sorry to interrupt the more serious queries, but in regards to earlier suggestions for limiting spectator spots, I selfishly hope that doesn't happen. For me, the ability to spectate was one of the selling points of this game. I've seen some very heated battles already, that I have enjoyed as much as anything I've seen on Speed TV. Great driving deserves an audience.

Spectators will stay 42 plus 5 Admin (47), we have lowered the number on the grid to 28 on CD3 but you will find you often get "Race is full"

If the Licensed drivers move to Cd4 this would cure that.

Slopi Said: CD4 wasn't showing in the server list earlier

A lot of servers were missing from the master server at one time

The CD3 server is nothing short of a total nightmare ANY time I join. It's pointless. Period. When you can't even complete a single lap without being full-throttle rear-ended or just plain crushed to death by brain-dead people in T1/T2, the fun is completely gone.

Some seem to enjoy this

Thanks for your time CD people, I'll be back whenever you get CD4 straightened out. In the mean time, I SUGGEST (not order you, like you claim people do)that you implement some sort of reporting feature if you want to stay above board in all of this. Also extend bans past 12 hours. People do NOT improve in 12 hours...

Impossible to do without loads more work

And with that, I wish you all the best of luck and hope some of you start racing on CD4, instead of conforming and just racing with the constant cluster**** that is CD3

I ask again if you have a license for CD3 move to CD4, if you dant start using it i will change it to GTR's and another track.

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Quote from Thill :

hmmm thats rather impossible because yesterday I havent been playin g since hmm about 19:00 as I was on a party till 3 in the morning ..

I thought that the meaning of the sentence was funny enough to leave it but I dont really want to discuss and debate that as I dont really want to be banned from the cd servers.

PS: something is wrong with your server btw , as yesterday a few times , while in middle of race I got kicked to spectator . But the wierd thing is I was kicked for now moving. (the drive or spectate message and then kick after some time ) Another wierd thing is that It wasnt me that was beeing kicked (sort off ) , will try to explain :

A few days ago after getting a bit drunk I changed my nick to Thill(a-bit-drunk) and raced like that so ppl will know to be careful arround me but then the next day beeing on a hangover I had a nick Thill(chillout) , but the message for the kick to spectator looked like that (about) "Thill(a-bit-drunk) was moved to spectator or whatever the exact message is. The thing is my nick was thill(chillout) at that time .I know that my master nick is what was beeing kicked but still why did it say Thill(a-bit-drunk) ?. Dont know if you got what I wanted to say cause its kind of hard to explain.

PS: "is nothing more than someone having a moan for what we have done. What have they done, nothing yet they have to have go at us." See I could jump to conclusions based on that remark like you did (because the only reason I wrot that post was to HELP you make a good clean serv and not moan about that something is wrong with it without knowing all the facts) but erm I dont.

1) Kick to spectator is automatic if you dont move for 30 seconds, thats a lapper setting, it first warns you to move and 10 seconds later your are sent to spectate
2) I am not sure of the time i tried to chat to you, you were spectating at the time.
3) What you said may have been funny to you but not to those who it was aimed at.

To be fair i do get fed up with people TELLING me what i should do with my servers, they always seem to want me to answer them straight away even if i am racing. In fact they dont tell me what to do they order me to do it.

I went onto CD3 today for 3 races and was hit and turned over in all 3.
During the 3 races i banned 3 drivers for 12 hours for bad driving. They were all the faster drivers just bumping their way through from the back. Plus i banned one for swearing (Constantly) and another for taking the p**s out of admin. 8 others should have been banned for their stupid driving and not obeying the blue flag.

While i was banning someone i was given the blue flag, i moved off line and slowed to let the faster car pass, and he hit me, i then get "Why did you slow?". You just cant help some people. He was clearly in the wrong, he was doing times in the low 51's so should have known better. Still he can get back on the server in 12 hours when his ban comes off.

Its strange but it then all went quiet and the next races i watched had no problems.

I say Sorry to you Thill, but doing admin on 4 busy servers is not funny, i am very proud of ConeDodgers but sometimes what people say winds me up.

I would ask that everyone do as you are asked by admin when on the server, answer any question asked by admin, and everyone just give others some room.

Being fed up with the carnage went to CD4 (On my own) only to be joined by someone saying "Check your emails, i just got banned on CD3", "it was not me","Please check the replay and unban me","Can you do it now as i want to race" Blah Blah Blah

I went back to CD3 and unbanned him just to shut him up. I then watched 3 races where there were 5 votes to ban from people and i could see no reason why they had voted to ban.

Maybe i should just give up and let you all get on with it........

Last edited by birder, Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:02.

Quote from FL!P :

Yeah, it used to display something with "target pb", but I ran a 0:52.22 yesterday on CD3 and I didn't see that message.

Quote from ACCAkut :

Does the server give me some feedback when I hit the target time? I just drove a 52:45 and it was only shown "Acc has new PB..."

Lapper only puts that message up if you beat your server PB, i then take the data and extract all those who are faster than the target time we set (CD1 1:44.40 CD3 0.53.00)

If you do !stats it will tell you your current time. or goto the website and enter your username in the license checker.

Last edited by birder, Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:08.

Quote from Thill :

Where did I call YOU a drunken monkey ..

At the time my PB on CD3 was 53.75 so i was the Monkey. I tried to chat to you last night but you would not answer me.

If its a joke just put (lol) after it and we will all get you idea.

Quote from zeugnimod :

So you only want people to praise you and tell you how great you are instead of people giving suggestions to improve your servers even more?

As i said positive and contructive suggestions are welcome.

but to get

"whats the point of having cd4 if the req to get into it (53.75) could be done by a half drunk, half hangover , 1 handed , 1 eyed monkey after a few practice laps arround the track."

is nothing more than someone having a moan for what we have done. What have they done, nothing yet they have to have go at us.

If it had been worded in a different manner it would have been welcome.

To all those who have said thanks, +1 etc, its a pleasure

To those who feel they need to tell us how to run our servers, please find another one.

Wow, I supply 2 Mini GTR servers and i get called a 1 eyed drunken monkey, at one point over 20% of all drivers (S2) were on CD servers so someone is enjoying it. Still its nothing i have not heard before.

A few facts

1) ConeDodgers are well known for the big GTR's and the new mini GTR's was only done after X came out, so please give us a break.

2) Moaning for the sake of it is not appreciated and i remind anyone who does, that i have found that typing /ban xxx 999 make the moaning go away for ages. Please be positive or contructive, moaning has an effect on me that will always get a reaction (a bad one).

3) There are over 700 drivers of Mini GTR's who have be on CD3, yet only just over 50% are faster than 53.75. Lapper is set at 2.50.00 and the slowest recorded time on CD3 strangely is 2:49.50. Yes 2 minutes and 49 seconds, maybe its was a tottally drunk monkey with no eyes.

4) Today we lowered the target time on CD4 to 0.53.00 and i updated the the licence file so CD4 is licensed for you. Slower driver who already had a license did not lose it.

5) Its a manual system and take almost 2 hours to update so i will do it when i am good and ready and not before.

6) The big GTR License file has 2000 in it and will have several removed at the next update as this is far to many. Several Licensed drivers are still using CD1, they possible like the carnage, however when i update the Big GTR licenses people who have never used CD2 yet do use CD1 will be the ones that are removed.

I think we run a very good set of servers, but we are not perfect, in fact i am far from it, so please give us a bit of time.

Quote from Gai-Luron :

Maybe, you have a big PB.txt file. Can you send me this file for test?

Thank's

The PB.txt file is tiny as i started a new one for Patch X, It never happened with the old one which was huge.

I think Lotesdelere has explained what happens better than me.

Quote from Gai-Luron :

Lapper.

Gai-Luron

We are finding that !near is causing serious problems when its used.

It seams to also stop the machine if several people use it, one after another when our server is full.

Its the same on all servers. Any idea?

Thanks

Quote from zeugnimod :

Can you say what the limot for CD3 is?

I would think 52:00 is appropriate.

CD3 is public so no limit,
To race on CD4 you have to have beaten 53.75 on CD3 to be considered.

The website now has a licence checker on the home page

At the moment there are 4 licences

miniGTR = CD1 yes, CD2 No, CD3 Yes, CD4 yes (373 License's)
BigGTR = CD1, Yes, CD2 Yes, CD3 Yes, CD4 no (1357 License's)
Full = CD1 Yes, CD2 Yes, CD3 Yes, CD4 Yes (207 Licenses)
CD Team = Team members -access to everything (31 License's)

Thats 1968 Licenses in 2 days.

Quote from Delgado :

Good Idea CD-guys...

The races in the "public" servers are funny, u started from the last grid
and finished in first or second grid
But anyway...the "noobs" think, to win the race, u must overtake and brake later then all in T1

Also, they don't know what the blue flag is

So, i'm happy to have the "license" and to race some good events with u..

Btw. when i have the license 4 CD-2 can i drive in CD-4 also ?

I have just finished sorting out the License files for CD4 but at the moment i cannot update the file on the website, this will be done later

CD1 Public AS3 10 laps plus pit FZR/XRR/FXR
CD2 Licensed AS3 10 laps plus pit FZR/XRR/FXR
CD3 Public AS1 7 laps no pit UFR/XFR and MTR for Lotes
CD4 Licensed AS1 7 laps no pit UFR/XFR

Quote from Tomi :

I had a great fun last night at CD3. The races were quite clean (probably because admins were online).

I managed to win 3 races in a row although I am quite slow (I did a pb of 51.79 with the UFR), but driving consistently did the trick, so it's not always about being the fastest in a lap.

There is a strange thing when I test if I have a license on your website. I write "Tomi" at the prompt but it show me the license of tomisu. Does it means that I could enter CD2 because tomisu has a license or is the server more strict than the little app on your website ?

The database on the website is run so it searches out what you enter and take no notice of case. Tomi is in Tomisu so tomisu has a licence but your name did not show you do not have a license. (Not done the CD3 list yet)

I did it like that so you did not have to be "that" exact with what you enter.

Lotes was admin last night and he is quiet forgiving, what i will say is dont hit [CD] Birder as he is a lot more strict.

By the way 51.79 is fast to me, i am in the 53's and cannot get a clear track to get faster.

Well thanks to the_angry_angel the system new license system is running well, and seem to be working.

Its taken 2 days for drivers to understand that if they have a Licence they should go straight to CD2 and at the time of posting.

CD1 is 3/4 full and still manic
CD2 is full of Licensed drivers and a Newbie free zone
CD3 is full of manic UFR and XFR action but we have reduced it to 28 cars
CD4 is empty but will be converted to a License server for CD3 drivers over the next few days.

My problem is who do i give a license to. On CD3 there are some fast mini GTR drivers but they have little or no race craft, then there are drivers like me that have some race craft but are gang banged at every corner but still cant drive the stinking little things for toffee.

CD3 is great fun but how the hell do you guys get them round so fast.

Good job Admins dont need a License......

My idea is to have 5 license's

1) Provisional - Allows you to race while others check you out.
2) Mini GTR - UFR and XFR on CD3 and CD4
3) Big GTR - FZR, XRR or FXR on CD1 and CD2
4) Full - No restrictions
5) Admin - No restriction (even if they are crap)

What do you think?

Quote from felplacerad :

Why such a high number of spec slots? I'd consider reducing the number of spectators to, well, five. tops. That'd reduce the chatter, hammering, so on and so forth.

We would like to have 47 slots for LFS GTR: League races so D2 drivers could spec D1 but its a good idea

However i am not sure the number of spectators is a config setting?

We had several good drivers use CD2 last night but some Licensed driver stayed on CD1.

This is a tempory solution until our new race control system is finished.

I have noticed that after a race has finished i get stuttering, maybe due to download of skins

I also notice if i Shift+S i get the same

I feel its a game thing, not ConeDodgers Servers

Using luaLFS the_angry_angel has sorted out a system for us to use.

It simply allows drivers to race if they are in the list

Its in use on CD2 and working well.

Slower drivers, Newbies and those who like a manic time use CD1
Clean and fast drivers use CD2

Working great

Thanks to Karl