The License file on CD2 and CD4 have just been updated.

Quote from The Very End :

Awww
How you got money for internet then?

"Luxury, In my day i used to dream of living in a hole in the road..........."

Monty Python

Quote from ajp71 :

CD1 can be a good server when there are admins around, unfortunately when the leave it currently descends to complete chaos CD3 however doesn't seem to attract these idiots and offers great racing

With CD1 you just have to pick a time when their are admins or respectable racers outweigh the noobs, which is usually early evening and when they go to bed you may as well leave because you're not going to get anything constructive done after that.

EDIT - thought I'd ask, how long does it take for the license to get updated? I set a lap bellow the CD3 requirement on CD3 a couple of weeks ago and nothing has come up on the license search

I am doing the license update today

Quote from El Presidente :

Not having a go at you guys at all, in fact thanks for running the CD servers.

By the way, we were 1 and 2 in the 2 races i had with you yesterday on CD2. (You won them both)

They were both good races, but i would make it clear you are to fast to race on CD1 and should only use CD2

Simply go onto CD1 and ask the faster drivers to move over, most will do.

I thank you all for your comments.

The problem is that as our servers can now take 47 players, we restrict the public servers to 20 or 22 in the race but this means the race is almost always full with others waiting to get on.

The idea to allow drivers to earn a license on CD1 and CD3 so they can race on CD2 and CD4 is a sound one, but the problem is that drivers stay on the public servers.

We had 14 in races on CD2 yesterday, and they were good clean races.

As to having admins on CD1 to police it, well to be fair i went on the servers and sorted it out twice yesterday with kicks and bans but within a day its just the same.

All CD Race team members can now kick people but as they are all licensed they normally goto CD2 as they have been asked to do.

Remember that the current system is just tempory, the new system is being worked on and hopefully come on line within a couple of weeks.

At that point the new automatic league starts and ANYONE who causes any type of problem or breaks the rules on the servers will not be allowed to race so cannot score points.

In the mean time i am sorry but there is not a lot i can do.

Quote from The Very End :

you don`t offer full grid, only 24 cars
(got ya!)

If i switch CD1 to 32 its full straight away and the racing is stupid, totally uncontrollable. You also get groups of mates taking control, voting off everyone they dont like.

You have no idea how many emails i get asking to be unbanned and LFS is great for single server control but a nightmare when you have multiple servers. If i give admin rights to others to help i just get more emails.

Come on folks give us a break.

Quote from obsolum :

This is old news, really. I haven't bothered connecting to any CD server for quite a while now. It was only when I joined other GTR servers that I realized how horrible the standard of racing on [CD] really is.

The new system should be online in a few days, it does things in a different way.

Drivers will have to earn points in full races and if your license does not have enough points you cant join. To control bad drivers or those with the wrong attitude we will simply make their license -1 points and they will never be able to join a race on our servers.

Quote from The Very End :

And of course there was no admins, so the crasher could do as they wanted.. So yes, I too think there is a problem on those servers.

Its not the servers fault or the fact there was no admins, its the fact that CD servers offer full grids and this attracts so many drivers who have little or no race craft.

I went on CD1 yesterday and kicked 4 and banned 3 but its a full time job and after all you can vote.

Come on, if you are fast enought fill up CD2 rather than having a go at us (again).

Quote from catch_me :

Hi, can someone help me. I've been trying to get onto CD1 for a couple of months now and I keep getting refused. I have License B and pb of 1:41.86. I have a feeling I got kick off for some reason. But I would really like to get back in the race. What to I have to do to join CD1. I don't mind grovelling to the host admin I just want to be able to join.
Steve.

I have unbanned you on CD1, but you will be watched, be very carful and do not argue

!kick now working, it must have been a space or something i could not see

Thanks for all your help

Quote from Shoe Maker :

Have you put the | at the end of the line ? both kick and ban commands work fine for me...

!kick@birder|/kick {*}|


p.s. hi

If you have

tab !kick@birder|/kick {*}
tab !ban@birder|/ban {*}

Do both of yours work?

Or do you have

tab !kick@birder|/kick {*}|
tab !ban@birder|/ban {*}

p.s.Hi

Quote from vane :

do you need to put a '|' after the bit of code above?

EDIT: Damn you beat me to it

but if its the last line in the automessage you dont need a | and also there will need to be a tab infront

Its not the last of my automessages and has a tab at the front

I will try it as the last line without the |

Quote from Gai-Luron :

List separated by ',' or file list &yourfile.txt


Bye

Dont seem to work either way for me

If i use

!kick@birder|/kick {*}

nothing happens, does this only work with ban?

Quote from Gai-Luron :

Hello,

Little modification to allow {*} in autoaction ( requested by VANE ).



Bye

PS: I put Lapper in Stand by because i go in Italy for hollidays. I return on September 3.

Great feature, can we use a list rather that @NAME

Also have a great Holiday.

Quote from Gai-Luron :

Hello,


Because now all privmessage are multiline message and the separator is ':'.

In old priv message for spb or other there is ':' character, replace it by {colon}.

Gai-Luron

Hi

All sorted, thanks, have sent you a PM

Gai-Luron:

I also notice that the split time (spb) display is now appears on multiple lines rather than a single line yet i have not changed anything

How do i get it back to a single line as most of me players dont like the multi line display as its difficult top read?

Thanks

Just upgraded to 5.1.2.34119, added the new !ver|/ver| ect.

One probelm, !stats now gives me stats for fastest drivers but not my own.

Is this correct?

Sorry but we are flooded out so very little time to read everything and players are complaining

Quote from ajp71 :

The As Cadet small GTRs is a lovely combo, some of the best racing I've ever had in LFS has been there in the last few days. As for the big GTRs, it's a nice combo with generally good standards, my only real niggle being people cutting the yellow line coming out the pits.

Unfortunately I've now given up on this server as it seems people blindly vote ban people, first time it happened was after I got taken out by someone, I explained that to the server owners and they very nicely unbanned me. Sadly this time it was somebody going round trying to ban people, who I shouldn't have tried to stand up to (or accidentally completed the vote by pressing 1 trying to save the replay ). I've had my first two bans in LFS both from CD1 and I ain't going back

Alex, please dont take that attitued against the server, its not the server or CD but the players on it.

Can i ask that you go back on and find out who is doing all the stupid banning as they are the ones that need sorting out.

Our new licensing system is again back on track after the big change in insim for patch X and this will sort out many of the problems.

We will be testing in a week or 2

Quote from lawdog :

I don't care so much about having laps ruined (let's face it, when you're running in the 1:44-1:45 range, you're perfectly capable of ruining a lap all by yourself), it's having entire races ruined. A couple days ago I was running 6th and dicing it up with the fifth place guy a bit, so we were naturally both slower (braking earlier, taking less than optimal lines to give each other room), when a mid race joiner who as five or six laps down--and who'd been running far closer to us than he ought to have for several laps--simply ran into the back of me under braking and left me in the kitty litter. In the XRR, that equals race over. Not that I would have won the race, or even finished fifth, but it did deprive me of a couple more laps of fun racing for position with the guy ahead, and kind of ticked me off.

Now, its strange but that rarely happens on CD2 so keep trying to get under 1:44.00 and then goto CD2 for some clean racing

Quote from Hollywood :

Not really any different than any other engineer.

Wrong again, an engineer would do it in 2 minutes......

Quote from Hollywood :

That pretty much goes for anyone, not just programmers (unless of course they program for the military). :|

And no, programmers aren't a breed a part, they, just like a engineers of any other stripe, prefer to be given a full set of requirements for a project to cut down on the number of interpretations that have to be made. It makes it far easier to design and then implement a project if you know precisely what the client wants.

I agree 99%, but progammers are a breed apart as us normal folks just can't understand what they do and how they do it.

In the past i had a programmer work for my company and at one board meeting he told me what i was asking was impossible to do in a million years, but 10 minutes after the meeting he had done it.

As i say a breed apart, but in a nice way

Programmers are a breed apart, some are helpful and other not. One thing is for sure without a spec you will never get far.

I wrote a full spec for what i wanted for our license system, sent this to the_angry_angel.

He looked at it, and as the spec was full, did the work and sent it back to me within 2 days and it workerd first time.

All i can say is write down what you want, make it very clear and concise and coders can do what you ask.

If your spec is only half thought out the program will fail so take your time and make sure you look at every option you want and what should happen when X Y and Z happens.

The other one thing i can say is never order a coder to do something as i have yet to find one who will obey an order, simply ask politly.

Also remember that coding takes X time and if the code is impossible it will take twice as long

Quote from rich uk :

why not change it to overall race time completed on the servers? then you need consistancy and good knowledge of how the car works before yiou can gain the license. this would need testing but would be a hugely better system in race situations. Also people wouldn't just hotlap and be annoyed when they are blue flagged or people are spamming blue flag messages to them.

just my 2 cents

This is a temporay system while our new system is being developed. Our full system goes by full race times and will run an automatic league but patch x has put it back a bit

Quote from kurent :

Those target times are waaaay to easy. You do them and you prove that you are not completely useless, you can do a lap without spining the car.

Strange that you only have a C License in that case. Pop onto CD1 and prove what you are saying......

Quote from riffey4 :

I think there's something missing there.. Just the obvious end of the sentence or was there more?

I dont mind moving there, but it's usually empty... and I dont like racing with less then 5 drivers...
Maybe disallow licensed drivers to join the public servers during peak hours? That way you get a better populated CD 2 and 4.
And then make sure it has AS Cadet running on 4.

anyway, keep up the good work!

We are currently waiting for the_angry_angel to finish the programming that will allow us to stop licensed drivers race on CD1 and CD2 but he is rather busy at the moment.

Also, you will find if you open up CD4 you can chose AS1