Quote from Thill :

1) Kick to spectator is automatic if you dont move for 30 seconds, thats a lapper setting, it first warns you to move and 10 seconds later your are sent to spectate

Thats all great and all but I was in the middle of a race DRIVIG when I was kicked to spectator, read my post one more time I tried to explain the whole situation as best as I could and dont really want to do it again in this one.

On another issue I guess the whole drunken monkey was as much my fault for bad wording as you for I guess bad understanding of my intention so you said sorry to me so it is only fair I appologise to You for that Sorry mate next time I'll consider the more serious side of those kind of sentences before I post them

I have no idea about the spectate, lapper is the only automatic control we have on CD3. If it does it again please save the replay.

Or

Maybe it was another 1 eyed drunken monkey that has Admin access did it..... But not me.

Quote from AlienT. :

Hey Birder, things ain't so bad mate. I'm sure a lot of people are having fun on your servers, I know I am. You can only do so much . I suggest you relax a bit, you can't please all of the people all of the time as they say.

I think the reason there are issues on your servers is because of the simple fact that the GTR cars by their very nature are more difficult to control at speed, especially overtaking manoevers with limited visability and a full grid, accidents are bound to happen. I'm really not sure what else you can do with public servers? Admin, I would imagine, is not an easy experience on popular public servers.

Origionally i thought CD3 being full was a flash in the pan but since it was setup its been full most of the time. As i said in an earlier post all i can do is keep having a look and sort the few people causing problems to try to sort it out.

Last edited by birder, Mon 18 Jun 2007, 09:19.

Quote from HEAVYSET :

I'm sorry to interrupt the more serious queries, but in regards to earlier suggestions for limiting spectator spots, I selfishly hope that doesn't happen. For me, the ability to spectate was one of the selling points of this game. I've seen some very heated battles already, that I have enjoyed as much as anything I've seen on Speed TV. Great driving deserves an audience.

Spectators will stay 42 plus 5 Admin (47), we have lowered the number on the grid to 28 on CD3 but you will find you often get "Race is full"

If the Licensed drivers move to Cd4 this would cure that.

Slopi Said: CD4 wasn't showing in the server list earlier

A lot of servers were missing from the master server at one time

The CD3 server is nothing short of a total nightmare ANY time I join. It's pointless. Period. When you can't even complete a single lap without being full-throttle rear-ended or just plain crushed to death by brain-dead people in T1/T2, the fun is completely gone.

Some seem to enjoy this

Thanks for your time CD people, I'll be back whenever you get CD4 straightened out. In the mean time, I SUGGEST (not order you, like you claim people do)that you implement some sort of reporting feature if you want to stay above board in all of this. Also extend bans past 12 hours. People do NOT improve in 12 hours...

Impossible to do without loads more work

And with that, I wish you all the best of luck and hope some of you start racing on CD4, instead of conforming and just racing with the constant cluster**** that is CD3

I ask again if you have a license for CD3 move to CD4, if you dant start using it i will change it to GTR's and another track.

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Quote from Thill :

hmmm thats rather impossible because yesterday I havent been playin g since hmm about 19:00 as I was on a party till 3 in the morning ..

I thought that the meaning of the sentence was funny enough to leave it but I dont really want to discuss and debate that as I dont really want to be banned from the cd servers.

PS: something is wrong with your server btw , as yesterday a few times , while in middle of race I got kicked to spectator . But the wierd thing is I was kicked for now moving. (the drive or spectate message and then kick after some time ) Another wierd thing is that It wasnt me that was beeing kicked (sort off ) , will try to explain :

A few days ago after getting a bit drunk I changed my nick to Thill(a-bit-drunk) and raced like that so ppl will know to be careful arround me but then the next day beeing on a hangover I had a nick Thill(chillout) , but the message for the kick to spectator looked like that (about) "Thill(a-bit-drunk) was moved to spectator or whatever the exact message is. The thing is my nick was thill(chillout) at that time .I know that my master nick is what was beeing kicked but still why did it say Thill(a-bit-drunk) ?. Dont know if you got what I wanted to say cause its kind of hard to explain.

PS: "is nothing more than someone having a moan for what we have done. What have they done, nothing yet they have to have go at us." See I could jump to conclusions based on that remark like you did (because the only reason I wrot that post was to HELP you make a good clean serv and not moan about that something is wrong with it without knowing all the facts) but erm I dont.

1) Kick to spectator is automatic if you dont move for 30 seconds, thats a lapper setting, it first warns you to move and 10 seconds later your are sent to spectate
2) I am not sure of the time i tried to chat to you, you were spectating at the time.
3) What you said may have been funny to you but not to those who it was aimed at.

To be fair i do get fed up with people TELLING me what i should do with my servers, they always seem to want me to answer them straight away even if i am racing. In fact they dont tell me what to do they order me to do it.

I went onto CD3 today for 3 races and was hit and turned over in all 3.
During the 3 races i banned 3 drivers for 12 hours for bad driving. They were all the faster drivers just bumping their way through from the back. Plus i banned one for swearing (Constantly) and another for taking the p**s out of admin. 8 others should have been banned for their stupid driving and not obeying the blue flag.

While i was banning someone i was given the blue flag, i moved off line and slowed to let the faster car pass, and he hit me, i then get "Why did you slow?". You just cant help some people. He was clearly in the wrong, he was doing times in the low 51's so should have known better. Still he can get back on the server in 12 hours when his ban comes off.

Its strange but it then all went quiet and the next races i watched had no problems.

I say Sorry to you Thill, but doing admin on 4 busy servers is not funny, i am very proud of ConeDodgers but sometimes what people say winds me up.

I would ask that everyone do as you are asked by admin when on the server, answer any question asked by admin, and everyone just give others some room.

Being fed up with the carnage went to CD4 (On my own) only to be joined by someone saying "Check your emails, i just got banned on CD3", "it was not me","Please check the replay and unban me","Can you do it now as i want to race" Blah Blah Blah

I went back to CD3 and unbanned him just to shut him up. I then watched 3 races where there were 5 votes to ban from people and i could see no reason why they had voted to ban.

Maybe i should just give up and let you all get on with it........

Last edited by birder, Sun 17 Jun 2007, 22:02.

Quote from FL!P :

Yeah, it used to display something with "target pb", but I ran a 0:52.22 yesterday on CD3 and I didn't see that message.

Quote from ACCAkut :

Does the server give me some feedback when I hit the target time? I just drove a 52:45 and it was only shown "Acc has new PB..."

Lapper only puts that message up if you beat your server PB, i then take the data and extract all those who are faster than the target time we set (CD1 1:44.40 CD3 0.53.00)

If you do !stats it will tell you your current time. or goto the website and enter your username in the license checker.

Last edited by birder, Sun 17 Jun 2007, 19:08.

Quote from Thill :

Where did I call YOU a drunken monkey ..

At the time my PB on CD3 was 53.75 so i was the Monkey. I tried to chat to you last night but you would not answer me.

If its a joke just put (lol) after it and we will all get you idea.

Quote from zeugnimod :

So you only want people to praise you and tell you how great you are instead of people giving suggestions to improve your servers even more?

As i said positive and contructive suggestions are welcome.

but to get

"whats the point of having cd4 if the req to get into it (53.75) could be done by a half drunk, half hangover , 1 handed , 1 eyed monkey after a few practice laps arround the track."

is nothing more than someone having a moan for what we have done. What have they done, nothing yet they have to have go at us.

If it had been worded in a different manner it would have been welcome.

To all those who have said thanks, +1 etc, its a pleasure

To those who feel they need to tell us how to run our servers, please find another one.

Wow, I supply 2 Mini GTR servers and i get called a 1 eyed drunken monkey, at one point over 20% of all drivers (S2) were on CD servers so someone is enjoying it. Still its nothing i have not heard before.

A few facts

1) ConeDodgers are well known for the big GTR's and the new mini GTR's was only done after X came out, so please give us a break.

2) Moaning for the sake of it is not appreciated and i remind anyone who does, that i have found that typing /ban xxx 999 make the moaning go away for ages. Please be positive or contructive, moaning has an effect on me that will always get a reaction (a bad one).

3) There are over 700 drivers of Mini GTR's who have be on CD3, yet only just over 50% are faster than 53.75. Lapper is set at 2.50.00 and the slowest recorded time on CD3 strangely is 2:49.50. Yes 2 minutes and 49 seconds, maybe its was a tottally drunk monkey with no eyes.

4) Today we lowered the target time on CD4 to 0.53.00 and i updated the the licence file so CD4 is licensed for you. Slower driver who already had a license did not lose it.

5) Its a manual system and take almost 2 hours to update so i will do it when i am good and ready and not before.

6) The big GTR License file has 2000 in it and will have several removed at the next update as this is far to many. Several Licensed drivers are still using CD1, they possible like the carnage, however when i update the Big GTR licenses people who have never used CD2 yet do use CD1 will be the ones that are removed.

I think we run a very good set of servers, but we are not perfect, in fact i am far from it, so please give us a bit of time.

Quote from Gai-Luron :

Maybe, you have a big PB.txt file. Can you send me this file for test?

Thank's

The PB.txt file is tiny as i started a new one for Patch X, It never happened with the old one which was huge.

I think Lotesdelere has explained what happens better than me.

Quote from Gai-Luron :

Lapper.

Gai-Luron

We are finding that !near is causing serious problems when its used.

It seams to also stop the machine if several people use it, one after another when our server is full.

Its the same on all servers. Any idea?

Thanks

Quote from zeugnimod :

Can you say what the limot for CD3 is?

I would think 52:00 is appropriate.

CD3 is public so no limit,
To race on CD4 you have to have beaten 53.75 on CD3 to be considered.

The website now has a licence checker on the home page

At the moment there are 4 licences

miniGTR = CD1 yes, CD2 No, CD3 Yes, CD4 yes (373 License's)
BigGTR = CD1, Yes, CD2 Yes, CD3 Yes, CD4 no (1357 License's)
Full = CD1 Yes, CD2 Yes, CD3 Yes, CD4 Yes (207 Licenses)
CD Team = Team members -access to everything (31 License's)

Thats 1968 Licenses in 2 days.

Quote from Delgado :

Good Idea CD-guys...

The races in the "public" servers are funny, u started from the last grid
and finished in first or second grid
But anyway...the "noobs" think, to win the race, u must overtake and brake later then all in T1

Also, they don't know what the blue flag is

So, i'm happy to have the "license" and to race some good events with u..

Btw. when i have the license 4 CD-2 can i drive in CD-4 also ?

I have just finished sorting out the License files for CD4 but at the moment i cannot update the file on the website, this will be done later

CD1 Public AS3 10 laps plus pit FZR/XRR/FXR
CD2 Licensed AS3 10 laps plus pit FZR/XRR/FXR
CD3 Public AS1 7 laps no pit UFR/XFR and MTR for Lotes
CD4 Licensed AS1 7 laps no pit UFR/XFR

Quote from Tomi :

I had a great fun last night at CD3. The races were quite clean (probably because admins were online).

I managed to win 3 races in a row although I am quite slow (I did a pb of 51.79 with the UFR), but driving consistently did the trick, so it's not always about being the fastest in a lap.

There is a strange thing when I test if I have a license on your website. I write "Tomi" at the prompt but it show me the license of tomisu. Does it means that I could enter CD2 because tomisu has a license or is the server more strict than the little app on your website ?

The database on the website is run so it searches out what you enter and take no notice of case. Tomi is in Tomisu so tomisu has a licence but your name did not show you do not have a license. (Not done the CD3 list yet)

I did it like that so you did not have to be "that" exact with what you enter.

Lotes was admin last night and he is quiet forgiving, what i will say is dont hit [CD] Birder as he is a lot more strict.

By the way 51.79 is fast to me, i am in the 53's and cannot get a clear track to get faster.

Well thanks to the_angry_angel the system new license system is running well, and seem to be working.

Its taken 2 days for drivers to understand that if they have a Licence they should go straight to CD2 and at the time of posting.

CD1 is 3/4 full and still manic
CD2 is full of Licensed drivers and a Newbie free zone
CD3 is full of manic UFR and XFR action but we have reduced it to 28 cars
CD4 is empty but will be converted to a License server for CD3 drivers over the next few days.

My problem is who do i give a license to. On CD3 there are some fast mini GTR drivers but they have little or no race craft, then there are drivers like me that have some race craft but are gang banged at every corner but still cant drive the stinking little things for toffee.

CD3 is great fun but how the hell do you guys get them round so fast.

Good job Admins dont need a License......

My idea is to have 5 license's

1) Provisional - Allows you to race while others check you out.
2) Mini GTR - UFR and XFR on CD3 and CD4
3) Big GTR - FZR, XRR or FXR on CD1 and CD2
4) Full - No restrictions
5) Admin - No restriction (even if they are crap)

What do you think?

Quote from felplacerad :

Why such a high number of spec slots? I'd consider reducing the number of spectators to, well, five. tops. That'd reduce the chatter, hammering, so on and so forth.

We would like to have 47 slots for LFS GTR: League races so D2 drivers could spec D1 but its a good idea

However i am not sure the number of spectators is a config setting?

We had several good drivers use CD2 last night but some Licensed driver stayed on CD1.

This is a tempory solution until our new race control system is finished.

I have noticed that after a race has finished i get stuttering, maybe due to download of skins

I also notice if i Shift+S i get the same

I feel its a game thing, not ConeDodgers Servers

Using luaLFS the_angry_angel has sorted out a system for us to use.

It simply allows drivers to race if they are in the list

Its in use on CD2 and working well.

Slower drivers, Newbies and those who like a manic time use CD1
Clean and fast drivers use CD2

Working great

Thanks to Karl

Widdowmaker, i can only find a time for WE1 so no licence but i am sure you will hit 1:44.40 on CD1 without any trouble

JohnPenn and Benji, you both have a license so get some clean racing on CD2

Benji, i have not had time to sort out CD3, now 32 mini GTR's is truly manic, i agree that its fun, sort of a Death Destruction Derby without the Death....

My next plan is to supply cheap body panels for UFR and XFR and setup shop on CD3

Since Patch X all CD servers have been upgraded to 47 slots with 32 racers

CD1 is set to our normal GTR’s on Aston National (AS3)
CD3 is set to UFR / XFR on Aston Cadet (AS2)

CD2 and 4 have changed from day to day.

The racing on CD1 and CD3 has been manic, so much so that its almost impossible to get a race without problems. Most Newbies when joing LFS go straight for the big GTR’s and as CD1 always the fullest server in the list they end up there. CD1 also attracts some amazing drivers, pre X we had 10 drivers in the 1:39’s and 100’s in the 1:40’s. FXR and XRR times in the 1:41’s were also common.

With 47 slots we now have racers waitng to race and 32 cars into T1 is carnage.

With Patch X we have found it almost impossible to Admin the servers. Its difficult to find, let alone right click a name in the huge connection list. Blue flags are out on every lap after lap 1, and the use of Shift+S is causing Mayhem. Also there is so much chat that no one takes notice of any admin warnings.

We get sleepers on the grid EVERY RACE as drivers just forget the new start system and even drivers who sit on the grid with their brakes on just to cause problems.

Something had to be done and with the help of the_angry_angel we now have a license system in place.

CD1 will stay public but CD2 now has the License system running on it.

Simply put, if you name is not on the list you cannot join the race.

In order to get the sytem up and running we have had use the times recorded on LFSLapper under Patch W.

A license has been given to any racer who has been on a CD server while LFSLapper has been running and completed a lap under 1:44.40 with patch W.

To see if you have a License goto www.conedodgers.co.uk and enter you name in the search in the home page. Its a bit basic but all i could do in the time

If your name is not in you need a License so simply go to CD1 and race, once you have done a 1:44.40 LFSLapper will say “[CD] target PB XXXXX” and you will be considered at the next Licence update.

This is a manual system and not automatic.

ALL WE ASK THAT IF YOU HAVE A LICENCE YOU PLEASE RACE ON CD2

Further details will be announced on our website

Thanks

[CD] Birder

Last edited by birder, Thu 14 Jun 2007, 07:25.

Quote from Gai-Luron :

PS: Nobody want to help me with file of track . Funny isn't it?

Hi

I can do the tracks and cars we use on Conedodgers but it will be limited, i have no idea on the other tracks

Will that help?

But i did have a thought, in LFS Stats you get the WR from LFSWorld, not sure about splits, could you use 105% of that as a starting point

Last edited by birder, Wed 13 Jun 2007, 07:33.

Quote from 12ozJesus :

This exact thing happened to me last night on ConeDodgers GTR server (43 slot server). I was in the racing line on a straight hugging the curb, not swerving when a FZR comes along side my FXR and proceeds to try to set up for the long right T3 on AS NAT by getting all the way to the left - hitting my car passenger door and forcing both our cars into the sandtrap. I had time only for "WTF?" (voteban starts); "I didn't hit him" (voteban mid-way); "He hit me" (voteban succeeds, I drop). I'm a fast typer, the whole thing from wreck to ban was less than 10 seconds and there were maybe 2 cars that could have witnessed the crash. But, because the disrespectful wrecker was the 1st to start the vote, I got the boot.

Server admins, I don't envy you... its now a fine line between wreckers who cant be voted off and wreckers who vote off all your respectful racers with ever incident. Hopefully, we can get the word out.

Conedodgers are 47 slot with 5 reserved for admins, i must say that since X both CD1 and CD3 have been full and the ban happy racers have had a field day, sorry but not a lot we can do

Hi

All the CD servers are now running and so for no problems at all, thank you very much, you are always welcome on our servers but since we have had 2 of them full all day its a bit manic

Birder

The rules for entry are simple:

1) Obey the rules
2) Drive fair and safe ( dont have to be fast )
3) Dont moan or swear

oh and

4) Dont beat birder................

By the way rob 1:40.92 so up yours team mate

How do you ban an admin......

As to downloading 30 skins i think thats fair as you may well want to spectate. Remember CD1 is our public server, CD2 will become our Pro-Race server so its upto you if you come on or not.

Quote from GeForz :

But please add an info to the connection message

Not sure what you mean?