Is there a difference between deliberate and non-deliberate hand ball?? What if the handball stopped the ball but it was going wide anyway?? Unlike like a goal across a line this is not a black and white case.
The ruling atm is about right in my opinion. If you want to stop the ball with you hand then you get an instant red-card and there's a penalty. Injustice??? Well don't shoot the ball near the defender and if you do don't miss the penalty!
Well yes there is. If the ref deems the arm to be in a a natural position when the ball strikes then no foul, however if the ref thinks the hand is in an unnatural position (i.e. a deliberate movement to the ball) then foul and appropriate action taken, that is the advice given to the refs in determining if a handball offennce is indead wohty of a foul. And you all though that the FIA ruling was screwy....ain't got nothing on FIFA
imo, the ruling should be made simple, just like the offside rule needs to be simplified. Hits your hand/or arm (up to the tip of the elbow) = Handball, likewise if any player is offside regardless if they are interfering with play or not = offside.
maybe you should try reading the posts youre replying to or actually knowing anything about the game youre discussing
there already is a clear distinction between a deliberate hand play and an unintentional one and theres also a difference in using you hands in the penalty box and using them to prevent a clear cut goal chance (ie yellow vs red card)
My problem is what is deemed acceptable by a lot of so called football fans. Diving is disgusting to me, it's the worst part of the sport, but it seems to be almost encouraged in other countries, their biggest heroes are the ones that cheat and con their way through every game. I would like to see harsher punishment for players that fake injuries or dive, FIFA needs to start banning players for persistent diving, maybe if everyone stayed on their feet they might actually learn how to kick this new ball properly.
The ball never crosses the goal line, so a goal cannot be awarded. A penalty kick without the goalie is not a viable option, the referee on the field cannot tell what exactly a ball would have done if it was not handled. There are a lot of shots that it is unclear from on the field in real time whether it is even hitting the goal, until it actually goes in. There is just punishment, an automatic red card and a pretty sure shot at the goal. In this case, sure it's obvious, but that is not a judgement that it is acceptable to expect the referee to make. In all cases except something this painfully obvious, that call can't be made. And I would not want to make even this call as a ref, you really have no idea what's happening with shots until it either hits something or flies past.
And yes, it should be a PK for a handling infraction that is not a shot... it's a direct kick in the penalty area, and something that provided an advantage for the defending team... it's the exact same as a foul in the area. It is not an automatic red as SAxor claims, it's situational. A yellow may be more appropriate, but a PK still warranted. If you read the Laws of the Game, nowhere does it say that handling in the area must be a red. The red is for deliberately blocking a obvious goal or goal-scoring opportunity.
Imo they should now shoot Suarez in the head and the refferee should have just given ghana the goal.
I hate Suarez now what a wanker, not that it matters he god red though because he is the most dangerous player in Uruguay. So now it's Netherlands versus Forlan, will be a piece of cake considering their horrible play. Yes we don't play nice footbal either but alot better than them.
This is just what the sport is. Suarez is world class not only because he can score goals, but also because he can disrupt an entire game with his behaviour. At least I'm glad I won't have to look at his face during the semi-final game, I just hope the Netherlands won't play dumb with their eternal understimation syndrome and lose the game... they should formally apologise to 200 million Brasilians if they can't defeat Uruguay now, which is basically a bee without stinger next match.
On a different note of unsportive behaviour, I do think the FIFA should be less hesistant to hand out punishments post-match; Melo deliberately attempting to hit Robben's previously injured hamstring (or still recovering hamstring, I should say) was not sufficiently punished by a red card. The man is mental and such grotesquely unsportive and unprofessional behaviour ought to be punished much more severely. This is a non-contact sport after all, not a mixed martial arts match. Attempting to wound a man in a game...
Not really. He made the movement but there's no way he would have reached it.
It's funny that what we perseive as cheating depends on whether the player gets away with it. If the ref hadn't seen Suarez do it, I would have thought of him as cheating scum but now he's a hero who saved his team. It's very hypocritical, I know, but that's just how my mind works.