Thanks Nathan, but if thats the vibe in this area of the forum I'll screw off back to the Hardware area, never knew demo users giving improvement opinions was such a big deal *shrugs*
~Bryan~

Thats pretty cool about your PSU having a fan, guess what, my shitty 5 year old Celeron has a fan on its 300watt low amp PSU too. Isn't that just amazing? It's soo advanced... got a web link to the case and PSU you bought?
~Bryan~

I noticed this also when I was playing around with some in-car views with the XRG, the movement isn't realistic, it's too fixed, and too smooth. It doesn't seem like something that would be too big of a pain in the ass...
~Bryan~

Jesus this guy never learns. Surprized his profile says hes 14, he acts like hes 10...Just give it the f*ck up. Maybe show your parents this thread so they will not to get you a new PC...
~Bryan~

Yeah it's about as simple as that, you don't want people to use your skins then don't take the risk...
PS, Krill, how the hell did you end up on my MSN contact list? *confused*
~Bryan~

Damn you and your misleading thread titles, Alas, may he rest in peace.
~Bryan~

Google MM5, as for BIOS, it tells you on the screen what button to press when you boot your computer (it's delete for me, I believe newer motherboards use one of the F keys) Reboot and take a look at your screen for the information.
~Bryan~

I just fired up LFS, went on BL1 with 49kph winds, with the XFG, hardtrack setup, hit 199kmph on the straight, it IS posible.
/end of wonders
~Bryan~

Then just go into the BIOS, or try Motherboard Monitor...*sighs*
~Bryan~

I don't say this too often but Harjun, you are a dumbass...seriously. Don't bother with the custom PC as you probably won't be able to get it together, and if you do, you will probably **** with the vcore and start melting stuff. Your better of just getting one of those pretty simple packages, something that will work, and is up to date, and don't bother overclocking it.
~Bryan~

Yes, but my PC is HELLA old. The only sensors it has is vcore, CPU temp, and heatsink speed. All the nessesary, my HD is cold to the touch. *smiles* How I love simple computers.
~Bryan~
EDIT: Austin, check out the configuration menu, make sure every sensor is checked. This is what mine looks like when I get it to show all the sensors it can...

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Hmm..strange, well, just pop into the BIOS and check out the temps yourself then. It should be pretty simple to find it, depends on your motherboard and BIOS, or you could give Motherboard Monitor a try, but likely if speedfan can't read the sensors, MM couldn't either.
~Bryan~
EDIT: You could try a newer version of speedfan (I just checked and I'm using Version 4.32)
PS, my temps arn't actually that low, it just reads 15degrees low for some reason (double checked with MM5, and Everest)

Last edited by dropin_biking, Sun 21 Oct 2007, 18:36.

^If your talking about speedfan, it should automatically read it...
~Bryan~

Dude, the CPU has got to be over heating. yes, it will show up as two cores, I believe the Pentium D 9xx series have two presler cores on one die, not overly hot, not too slow either. Get speedfan or motherboard monitor to take a look at your CPU temps, and fan speeds. I bet your computers filled with shit that won't exactly help gaming too. I see some people run 50-60 processes, bloody hell, I've got everything I use open and I'm running 24.
~Bryan~

Don't forget driver issues, expect DX10 improvement once drivers get more developed, the only thing I can actually say that truely is bad about the 8600 GTS is the 128bit bus, thats gonna kill your fps at high resolution, with alot of AA and AF.
~Bryan~

Prices are weird dude. I've seen E6600's cheaper then E4300's. It all has to do with price cuts, and new product.
~Bryan~

You could be a cheap bastard, throw a cooler on your CPU and overclock it a bit, then throw a better AGP card on it, but it won't last, it will soon be outdated. Seeing as nothing is really compatable with the new gen (DDR2, PCI-E, SATA) I say just go for a build (save your drives, case if you want, PSU if its good enough) Grab an entry Core 2 Duo (E4300, E4400) or a Pentium E 2160. Toss 2gigs of 667 or even 533mhz RAM, throw it on a nice motherboard (eVGA 650i Ultra perhaps?) Maybe grab a nice SATA drive (much quicker then ATA) Expect to spend a more then just 'an upgrade' though...
~Bryan~

What is FS9 anyways? I'm curious to check it out, sounds like a game that runs on any spec system, got linkage?
~Bryan~

No but I'm on my way. 75 for a 7900 GS isn't too bad actually. Could be cooler, but hey, it's no temp that you should be killing people about. Download speedfan, it will give you your CPU temps. If it doesn't read your CPU for some reason (it should) check out motherboard monitor.
~Bryan~

Well go check your CPU temps...
~Bryan~

Quote from Stone in Focus :

well i played for years at 5-15fps so i revel in the luxury of capping it at 60

Welcome to my life. I just posted this question because I've heard alot of rave about each having their own set-backs. I would be honestly happy with a capped 30, 25 even.
~Bryan~

Well if your CPU is at 75 degrees just at the desktop not doing much, sure explains things. CPU's usually have thermal throttling where they would slow down and/or shut down when getting too hot. Check your heatsink for dust, reappy it with some new thermal grease. Any overclocks on the system?
~Bryan~

Overheating? Virus? Drivers for something? Could be many things. Check your CPU temps, make sure they are normal, scan for virus', etc...
~Bryan~

Yeah well when you run single digit frames with sound in some places, I'd sacrafice sound for being able to keep my car on the road. I don't leave it off, just off the grid and T1, or if im in a close second, with noone behind me. I really need the extra frames to be able to drive, 15-20 just doesn't cut it.
~Bryan~

Quote from mcintyrej :

I want to get hold of ATi (literally) and shake them to unconciousness.

I'm going Nvidia after this.

How is that X1950 Pro treating you? I was looking into that or a 7900 GS for my new computer, does it handle games nicely?
~Bryan~