What is your full system specs? It does sound like it may be a power related issue. However, that Antec PSU should be up to the task. Out of curiosity, which drivers are you running for that GS?
~Bryan~

Ohh awesome. I just disabled the admin account, and made my login default with admin rights. It's easier that way because when I need to make critical changes I can just boot into safe mode and login as Administrator
~Bryan~

I'm curious, what was the silly little problem?
~Bryan~

I just went haxxorz and dropped my time down to 1.52.016
~Bryan~

I've browsed NCIX. I find their prices to be quite odd, and their website is a horrible mess. I've shown my mom some of this thread, and the couple computer builds I've put together, and she seems to be caving in slightly. I may have to purchase something locally, however, I've found quite a few VERY respectable stores around the area to purchase from.

Wish me luck and thanks for all your advice, especially you Stang.
~Bryan~

Hmm, quite the nice build. I was checking out your site too, seems to be very professional, I like it I might have to swing by, or drop you guys an e-mail when I plan on getting a new system. Being in Huntsville, Toronto isn't much of a drive.
~Bryan~

Well if you already have a laptop I say get the desktop. A deskstop can do everything a laptop can, but a laptop can't do everything a desktop can. Thats a nice build for 500. You could probably even 'downgrade' and save money, as it doesn't sound like you'll need some of the stuff jakg picked out.
~Bryan~

^Quite true. Although, it would be nice to see such features as an LFS default. I sometimes would like to know a bit more about my laptimes and trap speeds so I know where I'm gaining/losing times on the track.
~Bryan~

Well Takumi, thanks, but I'm up here in Canada, notice the flag?

Stang; You get where I'm coming from. I know for something I priced online at $1,000 will cost me well over $1,500 locally. That is even if I can get the same parts.

I encourage my mom to use Firefox 2.0, and I keep this installation of XP Home spotless, so I've told her theres NO CHANCE, of data being stolen.

I'll talk to her, and show her this thread, and let her read over the policies and shipping agreements at www.canadacomputers.com if anybody knows of a website that actually reviews websites (I know there are some, just none come to mind) please share, I'd like to see what other people have to say about Canada Computers as I've never dealt with them.
~Bryan~

Well we've talked about it, and it's pretty much the way she lives. Here in muskoka, the parents are rather old school. She just doesn't 'trust' shopping online because she's never done so. I've told her how much cheaper, easier, and quicker they are though. She just doesn't realise that the prebuilt machines you get in stores are over-priced for what you get. I've told her that because I have specific needs for a computer, I'll need to pick specific components, but she's rather n00b with computers (think Harjun, minus the grammar, the lies, but throw in some brain damage)

She does do her banking online, so I might be able to use that against her. I'm pretty sure ordering off a legit website is about the same as doing your banking online.
~Bryan~

As some of you may or may not know, I have an EXTREMELY horrible computer. It's out-dated, and everything on it is a lost cause (DDR, AGP, S478) We bought it quite a few years ago, when I was 11, and knew nothing of computers. It was purchased locally at a very nice computer store. My mom is aware of how out-dated it is, and she knows I do video editing, and 3d animation at school, so she's willing to spend $1,000 to purchase a new computer in the spring.

I've been online to NCIX, Tiger Direct, and Canada Computers, and put together a few very nice PC's for around the $1,000 range. Here's the catch; My mom isn't into the whole online thing, so she wants to actually go to a store and buy a computer. We have no dedicated PC shops around here anymore, so she wants to just go to a Future Shop or similar.

I've told her how much cheaper it is to buy the components, and she knows I'm qualified to put together a PC, yet she won't budge with buying online.

Here's where I need the help of all you. Is there anyway I might be able to convince my mom to let me order online? Or, what places do you suggest going to where I can get a PROPER pre-built machine. Here are the 'requirements'

MUST include a 1680x1050 LCD (20" or 22" doesn't matter)
Must have RAM capable of a 400mhz FSB and higher
Any lower level dual core from Intel will be fine, I'm thinking e21xx
Must have after market cooling solution
Case must have decent cooling (2x120mm would be preffered)
Hoping for 8800 GT if budget allows (I know shopping local, or pre-built will cost more)
PSU must be of decent quality as it WILL be overclocked
Motherboard must be able to handle SOME overclocking

Other things, such as harddrives, optical drives, keyboard + mouse are not AS big of deal.

So please guys, if you can think of any mature arguments about ordering online I'm more then happy to hear them. Also, if you know of any good stores to buy from in the area of Ontario (Toronto, Barrie, North Bay) that have websites to browse through, send them my way.

Cheers, and I hope you can help make this happen, as I've been waiting for the chance of a new computer for quite a while.
~Bryan~

Quote from KROM :

Well 200fps sitting in the pits is all well and good.

I get much more than that in the pits with 8xAA 16AF. but thats not the point.

I have a quadcore QX6700 clocked @3.2ghz
And 2x 8800gtx IN SLI

After buying this game Im a little annoyed, to find it failing to use more than one of my cores and not using my sli. tried a few things like setting affinity ect, but still only uses one core 80-90%.

Also I get no boost from SLI on the 8800GTX, same whether in single or sli.

Now dont get me wrong it runs ok, but on a full grid it can fall to its knee's, disapointing to say the least.

Any talk of making this game fulldual / quad, and is it meant to be working with sli???.

Quit your bitchin' boy. If you cant handle like 40fps at the start (which is not even bad) then turn down your damn AA and AF settings. To blow that kind of cash on a PC, then complain about it, that's quite bothersome.
~Bryan~

Why would you get an 8600GT? You could have got something a LOT better to power that huge screen, the new 8800 GTS would be sweet.
~Bryan~

Well I finally got around to doing a 1MB run...please don't laugh. 3 minutes 12.656 seconds.
- Intel Celeron (socket 478, 128k L2 cache, northwood core) @ 2.55ghz
- 224MB of DDR @ 230mhz (3-3-3-7)
~Bryan~

I believe larger sticks have a higher latency, it would make sense. Although I imagine the difference between 4x1 and 2x2 wouldn't be TOO big.
~Bryan~

My score is getting pwned really bad
~Bryan~

36.859 second 256k calculation done on my Celeron, with speedfan and CPU-Z opened.

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I use auto simply because I'm using a mouse and keyboard. If I had a G25 I'd be fully manual clutch.
~Bryan~

I agree that some cars could use a little more headroom in the RPM range.

Take the XRT for example, it's got a 2 litlre inline 4, and a single turbo. It should be able to touch 8,000 without much of an issue (I'm talking when shifting, not holding it at 8,000 for the hell of it) Same goes for the FXO, it should be able to reach higher rpms (just look at its real world counter-parts)
~Bryan~

Well I'm hoping I'll be on a decent 48kbit service once we get our second phone line. But right now I can only use the net in little bursts because my parents need the phone throughout the day (and night)

Well at least I have my answer, downloading the full X to Y patch is the only way to do it, so I guess I'll hit up the library after newyears or something.

It's so weird going from a rock solid 10MB line, to some sketchy high latency dial up. I really did take highspeed for granted.

I'd look through the threads for the changes but could somebody be kind and sum up any of the changes from the test patches to Y, or is it mostly bug fixes and little improvements?
~Bryan~

Speedfan is a great program, ONCE it's been configured properly. Coretemp is another good one if your just worried about CPU tempuratures. I do believe that the Asus program that came with your motherboard would be the best bet though.
~Bryan~

Well heres the story, I recently moved (literally a few days before christmas) and just before I moved I downloaded Patch X30, it was a big download (60~MB I think) Then I updated to X31 which fixed the controller axis problem.

But when I moved, I switched to 24k dial up, which is horribly slow. I was hoping I would be able to update from X31 to Y, because I already downloaded a huge patch, and I'm assuming there isn't MUCH change from X31 to Y.

Basically my question is, is there any way I can go from X31 to Y without downloading that huge "official" patch?

PS, I would download it at school but we are on holidays, and I don't have the resources to get over to friends houses to download to a jump-drive.
~Bryan~

Just for the record, I have a northwood Celeron at nearly 1.6volts and I cant even get it past 45 when I'm loading the hell out of it (100% usage for 2+ hours) I just wish my motherboard allowed for higher FSB clocks.

Grab some more RAM while your at your overclock.
~Bryan~

Lovin' the songs dude. Although like already mentioned, Fruity Loops is the best way to go. I started learning it when I was 12, so I'm sure you won't have much of a problem It's a little hard to get used to at first, but when done right, it can give you AMAZING quality. I know of a few professional artists that use Fruity Loops, just because it's such an amazing program.
~Bryan~

I'm afraid to say it, but I think a fresh installation of XP might be your only way to go, although a system recovery from a disc may do the trick too. But I'll tell you now, I'd back up what you can, and start off with a fresh XP installation.
~Bryan~