Quote from yoyoML :

I hope S3, when it comes out (still far away), will kill every personal computer currently available on the highest settings. Of course the coding's got to be efficient so it won't kill PC's by lousy efficiency, but by the quality of contents.

If S3 can't enable/support features that we all know will come true in a few years time, I've no interest to pay for it. If it comes out after GT5 I'll expect it to give better graphics and ask for better hardware than GT5. Honestly, who wants to be stuck with the current graphics and sounds 5 years later?

I could cope with Lfs, as is, for the rest of my natural life

Lfs is the most harmonic simulator, on the market. Others have better sound, some have better graphics - None have better physics.

I would say that lfs is "holistic" - Small overtones of great programming, makes the difference. It is not allways the costliest bottle of wine, which have the best taste !? But it is the costliest bottle, for sure

Quote from Gil07 :

I'd like to see a IRC channel be available for during-race questions or complaints.

Please !
No hardcore channels, for important things like that.
I once tried IRC and I`ll never do that again

It is much better to have a thread in this forum, where everyone can go and ask questions, during a race.

Keep it simple

All things you want to know, should be easy to finde, in here. Not on 14 different medias.

It doen`t make it more professional, with fancy panty homesites. At the end of the day, we will judge you on the way the race was conducted

Clear messages, clear rules and a fair and clean race, will make people call IGTC professional races.

And could I speak for more points !?
Of course everyone drives for placings, but instead of having zero points, it could be nice, also for the "back of the pack" to have something to figth for.

EDIT :

What about different car classes !? - Have you discussed that. The argument of the speed difference is simply not true. Having slow and fast cars, amongst each other, would give the race much more dynamics. Even the lonely leader will not fall asleep, because he has some slower cars to overtake all the time

At least consider gtr2 classes, like the ones in CTRA. That would be a sure winner !

Last edited by alland44, Tue, 23 Oct 2007 00:36.

The IGTC forum (This forum) is a big, big mess. You can`t find the information you need, if you do not come here, on a daily basis.

You definately need to have a sticky, which contains ALL the important information, for the comming race. It is not my job, to search the forum, to find out that you have changed the starting time of the next race.

Furthermore - Important news, should be messaged or mailed to the teamleaders of the participating teams.

I`m also rather upset with the way you punish a wrong name or an incorrect skin, and let people do so many critisable manouvers, while you punish a wrong sign.

It is years ago, since Ilast participated in a race, where blueflag lappers had so little knowledge of how to pass correctly

My car was one of the slowest and I got a lot of those flags. So use your time making the race better, and let the unimportant things lay, untill the race is over. Then you can punish people for not using the rigth skin or nametag.

So :

Easy access to the important information.

Race and qalify starts at the announced time.

Raceadmins goes after the racers, which are not following the racerules, which directly influences on the ongoing race, and do not use to much time with signs and skins.

If you want to use safetycars, then you gotta let the spoiled cars stay on track, and have people moving them "outta bounce" That`s realistic If you call a smashed or "on the roof laying car" in as spectator, then loose the safetycar.

And announce clearly, if you are going to use specially race rules. Here I am thinking of the bumperrace on the oval.

Finally. This is not a game. This is the worlds best race simulator. Let`s keep it as that, so we don`t end up with a citydriving alike event, when this simulator was build for racing

EDIT :
Ad1 - Not to many fancy rules

Last edited by alland44, Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:18.

Moved To Suggestion Forum

Last edited by alland44, Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:08.

The last three

Its lousy pictures, but I had to run replay twice, which takes half an hour to complte. Else wind replay yourself.

I have to protest against Rudy Kolz, not following this rule :

2.2) When being lapped, a driver is expected to drive a normal racing line and avoid erratic movements that may confuse lapping drivers. If a driver wishes to pull over and slow to let the leader pass, this should be done on a long straight and done in such a manner that the intent is clear to the lapping driver. Under no circumstances should a driver being lapped slow excessively while entering or in the middle of a corner.

Rudy hit me, in a corner, in an insane manouver. This kind of treating the blue flag rule, must be punished hard, in my humble oppinion.

I first did not find it plausible to make a protest, because Rudy´s team and mine, didn`t finish the race. I now see how he pinpoints the rules, and another team accuses him for the same thing. Hitting them in a corner, with "blue flag status".

In danish we have a saying : "Don`t throw with stones, if you, yourself live in a glasshouse" I know Rudy loves this kind of stuff, therefore I said it. We have a discussion on the danish forum, where he mentioned something about complaing about me !?

This is the only incident I have with the TDRT team and Rudy Kolz, so he must mean this situation. I hope your judgement can learn him how to obey the rules, so we can have fair racing the next time we meet.

http://www.forum.lfs-dba.dk/at ... ntid=571&d=1193005475

I enclose this pictureset, for you to see. I did not get the best quality, because i have no good pictureeditor on this machine. But you can wind the replay to lap 35 and look for yourselves, if the pictures isn`t good enough.

I seldom chrash in T1. You will soon learn how "the field" behaves, and then act with this information.

I allways try to keep my lane and I prefer to go wide in T1 in fast cars, and the inside curbe in the slower cars.

I do not figth for position in the fast cars, just in xfg and uf1000

People should be more carefull, and the T1 wreckers should be banned. Everybody can see who they are, so just vote and ban them

We have to punish the wreckers, and T1 insanes, are amongst the worst of the kind. ban them often, so people know it doesnt pay to wreck in T1.

Sadly it is allways bad drivers which are T1 wreckers, you seldom experience this, with the very good racers. So no one will miss them in the specific race.

In the danish forum, somebody told me about complaints against my car (#12 from dba) I can`t see any complaints - Can you !?

Quote from MAE_2007 :

i wanna see a peugeot 206

No french cars please
Most people couldn`t read the signs on the dashboards, because ligths is lumiere, and so on. In french.

Topgear proved that the only good use for a french car, is as camerastand in horseraces

Quote from 510N3D :

as for getting drunk, he already had some champagne before the press conference As for you other comment, i dont think thats entirely correct but he is definitively one of the best drivers around in the F1.

Never drink with a finn. That could kill you

And for finns and drinking, I once saw a story in a paper.

Most men drowning in Finland, dies with their flyers open When they go outside to take a pi.. in the lake, then they slip on the slippery stones

Beeing drunk and hitting the cold water finishes the finnish

EDIT :
I have to tell you, that Finland is known as "The country of the thousand lakes" The finns have a lot of lakes and creeks, A VERY LOT OF THEM.

Last edited by alland44, Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:52.

Quote from The Very End :

Lol, now that would be fun
How fast is the thing? 20 km/h lol?

Yes
20 km/t is a good guess. I drive a small Nissan forklist, bhutan driven motor, an it weighs 3000 kilos

I also drive a smaller electric powered lifter, that only moves around 10 km/t But it also weighs about the 3000 kilos.

We are many forkliftdrivers, on my place of work, and we have discussed a 24 hours race around the big factory

But we don`t think the bosses will allow it

EDIT :
And we definately need gocarts in Lfs

Kimi is WM 2007. Congratulations to Finland with this third F1 world champ

Quote from Bob Smith :

TC is simple.

The speed setting is when it cuts in, this only exists so that you can spin the tyres off the line, so the non-rolling starts aren't made unskilled.

The slip ratio setting is the slip ratio of the tyres that TC will not let you go past. The higher the setting, the less TC does. Too low and TC will cut in when going in a straightline. Ideal TC is where you can appyl throttle coming out of a corner and the throttle gets held at the ideal amount. Thus it's faster and easier. Set the value too hgih and you'll be able to apply too much throttle, and then TC will limit the power oversteer. No TC and you'll be able to spin with ease - it's all down to you and your right foot.

The ideal setting varies with load and tyre pressure, so it's basically a case of playing and seeing how the car drives. The FZ50 doesn't need TC at all (unless you drive with keyboard), the BF1 is tough without TC but not impossible, though it depends on the track. High speed tracks like Westhill are fine without TC, SO Town on the other hand would require some serious skill.

This was nice
Thx Bob

Quote from BenjiMC :

It's been there for a good few weeks now and there was a pretty long discussion about it.

Not enough then
Such an important matter, should have been sent to all the teamleaders. Just my opinnion

Quote from scipy :

please people. dont be stupid. lfs is a sim and u cant break the gearbox per say, but that's no reason to use it for slowing the car down, btw you're not actually using the gearbox, it's the engine friction (and not engine compressions as it's popullary belived).

what you are actually doing (if you are using the engine for braking) is hindering accurate brake modulation and balance - i.e. ur not braking properly or on the limit. IF you are braking on the limit, adding the engine friction will only cause u to lock up and lose traction - not a desired effect. the reason for rapid downshifting is the sequential gear change (u have to go trough all the gears from 6th to 2nd), if you are in your real life car, ideally u would shift maybe 2 gears down or even 3 at a time, but not like 6th to 2nd or 1st (well shifting to 1st is best done from a gear not requireing a cross-gate shift - but that's just due to gearbox design). the reason for downshifting is just so that u can be in a proper gear for the corner exist (in the ideal rpm range for max torque bla bla).

next time u use the engine for slowing the car down, remember u are beeing stupid and scipy said so. you are only upsetting the balance of the whole car and not using the brakes effectivley. btw when u downshift u better be blipping the throttle to match the engine rpm with the gearbox rpm - so the car doesnt nosedive - if you are doing that, then ask yourself why to **** would u be doing that if u wanted to use the engine for braking. i am sick and tired of stupid and ignorant people: this actually include real life car mechanics, real life race drivers, my dad, his dad, my friends, their dads, many "street races" i know and most of the sim world. i am also sick and tired of false arguments that my dad gives me: "i've been driving for almost 30 years and i've been doing it like this". <- THAT DOES NOT MEAN U ARE DOING IT RIGHT. the whole car industry prays on stupid people who are braking their engines and clutches by using them for what they have not been constructed.

p.s. i am studying to be a mechanical engineer (2nd year now)
p.s.s. engine braking can be used in snow or ice conditions to make the tire rorational speed lower then the relative speed of the car so that u can keep some kind of control over steering.

END OF DISCUSSION

A little question anyway

Lets take a F1 car, with thousands of rpm. isn`t more safe to motorbrake such an angine. And definately fatal with a high torque engine, as a diesel engine !?

There is more to move in a diesel engine, than in a f1 engine, when you motorbrake hard

I hope you get what I mean

Quote from BranislavS :

last post http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=32258

So you have to look way down, in a thread, to find out !??
Nobody thougth that information was important enough, to get a sticky ?

Are you sure that all the teams, have that information ?

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

Race starts at 18:45 UTC, qual at 18:00.

Where did you find that piece of information ??

What time does the race start (UTC time)

On the danish forum, there is different messages about this !?

Quote from BenjiMC :

i dunno if thats what he was looking for. I still have no real idea of how it works but i do know that the slip thing is in regards to the amount of slip the tyres are allowed to have. set it higher for the FZ50 at around 6-8 i think and 3-4 on the BF1. these are just guide lines however, i set my TC pretty high for low interference since i dont like it cutting into my driving so much.

This is a little better !
That greasy hairy thingie - Ehhh somebody call him Alonso, is a master of using TC. Do we have some spanish people here !?

Or did I just offend them all

Joke aside.

We had a vote in the danish Lfs community, about the winner in the F1 series. I voted Alonso, because I think Lewis is really feeling the pressure now. I would like to see Kimi on top of the podium, but that craves Alonso hitting Lewis, and they both must "walk home".

BTW - Most votes for Lewis, and then Alonso, and a few for Kimi.
Soon Kimi will be the racer with most wins, and no championship

My feeling says. Alonso wins, Lewis second, and Kimi will not finish

Again. I still need a little more information about TC

But thx anyway, for caring

EDIT :

Greasy is an old story. Alonso did good, when he cut his hair - For sure !!

Quote from Nathan_French_14 :

Pits, then pick a setup. Brakes/TC

Your avatar says "DRUNK"
Is that your excuse

I don`t understand an inch of what you are saying

I have searched low and high, on this forum, for a "guide like" thread about this TC.

This smart forum, also presented me with a search, just before i posted this subject. I can use none of them.

Therefore i dare post this request, having searched the forum. Some people have a tendency to scold unlucky posters, because they (the scolders) just did know where the subject has been posted in 2005

I did my homework - I searched in vane, and now I ask. Could a friendly soul explain to me, how you adjust this TC on the Bf1 and the fz50

EDIT :

My idea is : I want to drive these cars safely around a few tracks, using the TC. With that feeling of "success" in my pocket, I would slowly remove the TC, and one day, hopefully, would be able to drive those crazy cars

Last edited by alland44, Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:06.

I want some of these (see picture) in S3.
They come in gasoline, diesel, bhutane and electric versions

Quote from Mazz4200 :

"The only way to make a man trustworthy is to trust him"

I could trust many men, my debt`s - But trust many men my money or my girlfriends - NO WAY !

Quote from PioneerLv :

I am a bit scared about LFS progress.
About 2,5 months without no new updates and features. LFS devolpment can't be stopped!

I really don't want to say thet but: Live For Speed is dying a slow death?

^
That sentence really scares me!

Any explains?

Dying ??

Absolutely not, mate

I see Lfs as great, great value for my money, and I keep getting even more value for my "bucks", now and then. I also wants something new, but unlike you, I really like the tempo that they make the progress in, in Lfs. I can cope with it. The worst times is when they announce a new path, and you expect it on a certain day That`s nerve wrecking business

Lfs is very, very driveable as is ! And it is getting better in the future !!

I have driven the demo, and then bougth the s1 version. then all the other patches and s2 version That`s a privelege, to follow the birth, youth and the entrance into the "grownups" world. What other games offers you that, and have the same quality as Lfs.

Patience my friend - Patience