Quote from Becky Rose :

My greatness and general brilliance was shadowed by screaming 2 inches from my ear which went along the lines of:

"IS THIS DISTRACTING YOU?"
"DID YOU JUST HIT A WALL?"
"ARE YOU ANNOYED YET?"

Is your sis still alive ?

Quote from deggis :

Looks like they just found about Logitech's G25 and scared?

Logitech and pedals ??????
You should pray, when you lay down the payment and hope they will work. Logitech pedals stinks and they have to prove that they have learned from their faults.

I had to return my brandnew DFP and I now have problems with my MOMO i got instead of the DFP.(Both pedal problems)

Quote from Cue-Ball :

I should not have to race in a closed server to expect close, clean racing. If someone is so far off the pace they are getting in the way of competitive racers then they shouldn't be on the server. If said person is not smart enough or respectful enough to remove themselves, then they need to be kicked/banned. There are plenty of servers out there and anyone can run their own. If someone is too slow for a particular server they should find one that better suits their skill level or they should practice offline until they can race cleanly and at least not be a threat to other drivers who are trying to have some close racing.

If I'm running a server I'll kick/ban whoever I damn well please. If you don't like it, too bad. I personally don't kick or ban anyone without good reason, but I can see why some people would. You have no right to tell someone how to run THEIR server. If you wanna make the rules? Start your own.

Maybe instead of asking people to put "pro only" or "skilled drivers" in the server name you might ask the people who are slow to start their own servers and put "120% benchmark" or "slow ass drivers only" in their server name?

I have my own server, slow drivers are welcome there !

I often see servers named as beginners ... or noobs (Not the team NOOBS) They exist !

And finally.
Yes ! New slow drivers should know, when beaten with many laps, and people are murring, that it is time to find another place to drive.
It goes both ways !

Last edited by alland44, Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:01.

Quote from Lateralus :

My overclock was done very carefully. I'm using a good cooler with Arctic Silver 5 and have my case fans placed so that they cool with maximum effectiveness. My idle temp is ~42C and load is ~63C. Absolute max after an hour of play is ~66C.

I know about my CPU's heat protection features and I know that it is not throttling itself.

I will try adding 10 AI cars now, just a minute.

EDIT: With 10 AI cars plus myself on AS Cadet, my FPS at the start was 11. I watched it for the first half-lap and it varied between 9 and 16. When I turned off the track and faced away from the AI cars, my FPS shot up to 40+. This leads me to believe that the rendering of other cars is what is causing the FPS dropoff, not the physics / AI thought calculations. Although I could very well be wrong. This doesn't explain why I have low FPS when alone though, assuming it is in fact abnormally low.

If fps falls that much, something is wrong in your system. What about your drivers. Ati has a tool which destroys the old drivers. Try that and fresh install new drivers.

If you put 10 AI drivers on track with you. What happens then. Does it maintain the Fps or ?

Quote from SamH :

iirc, it's a F1 rule. You can't race if you qualify outside 107% of the pole position's quali time.

I can`t see, what on earth, F1 rules have to do in Lfs simulation ?
If people want to drive undisturbed, pick a closed server to do it on.

To ban people for being slow is rediculous. But I know this is not the common behavior from the Lfs community. Most racers seems to have patience with newcommers, and is trying to help them get along.

As I`ve said before, if you pick an open server, you have to accept the people joining it - As long as they are not wreckers. Or put pro only in the server names. (Or other thing like that - Only skilled drivers etc)

I`m close to buying those pedals. Just the distance and the shipping costs eventually scares me.

Damn it is a nice set of pedals.

Quote from yegadoyai :

the 107% rule applies here, if you aren't capable of racing at 107% of the AVERAGE lap time set by other folk, get off the server because you will (or probably will) ruin the race, inadvertantly I might add. I practice offline and only come online to race. If folk are way faster than me then it becomes obvious that you are going to spoil some of thier fun. Chances are you are taking bad lines through corners which force the following car(s) to do some serious negotiating to get by cleanly.

I have raced with folk who were 5-10sec slower on BL1 rev, approaching the near flat out (in the demo car) downhill right left sbends the back marker braked then steered into his normal line, fine, in his mirrors I was a dot so you can understand his surprise when he found my car embedded in his drivers side door, the closing speed was just too great and with him braking I thought he was letting me through. Turns out he thought that being bizzarly wide was a good approach and felt he needed to be in 1-2nd for that corner, where I'd be taking it in 4th.

A ban is harsh but I'd probably have asked you to leave if you were upsetting the other racers.

Note: I do not mean to imply that you WERE doing any of the above, just that if you did I can see thier point of view.

Where did you find that rule ?
I have never ever heard of this rule before. If people are so keen about weak drivers joining, they should password protect the server.

Quote from Forbin :

If it was the team who owned the server who banned you, then I am inclined to say it's their server and they can do with it what they see fit. However, I do find this very rude.

On the other hand, if it was just some random players on the server and you weren't being disruptive, I see no reason why they should have banned you just for being slower than them.

If a team wants privacy, they can put a password on the server. A server with no password is an invitation for all to join. No excuse for the "owners" there.

Of course slow racers are allowed to race on a public server. That is if the server isn`t named pro only or something like that.

Quote from GWADanny :

my chanel 5 is basically piss, i cant watch it prob a good thing coz its crap. we have cable downstairs but i live in my room lol. i have a little ariel in my room that cost 1p or summot but i dont need channel 5 to watch 5th gear

Holy macaroly !
I thougth you said - My chanel no 5

I have not casted my vote. I really don`t know which car sounds bad or good. I just listen to the motor, so I know when to shift gear, or when the motor is destroyed. (popcorn machine like)

Quote from zeugnimod :

Humour of French people.

haha !

Don`t jump like af frog - When they come after you, they will eat your legs

Top gear is a rather entertaining show. It`s guys like us, given the chanche to testride new car models.

Sometimes they make a lot of funny episodes, like the time they tried to smash a porsche, and the Toyota - LOL !

But they are englishmen, so all of their descisions, favors english build cars. That I don`t like about the show.

Quote from wsinda :

That can be solved by forcing drivers to spectate if they don't push the throttle in the first 2 seconds of the race.

2 seconds is far to much. If the racer is present, he will touch the pedal just before the lamps turns green.

The solution would be to "spectate" racers which doesn`t touch their pedals 2 seconds before race starts.

Quote from highbridge :

I wanna listen custom horn.
It is download custom horn file from lfsworld.
Also it is like autoskin system.
Such as only one horn file upload to lfsworld for each racer.

Have you ever heard a IRL racer use his horn ?
Horns should be disabled in multiplayer sessions. (Some racers remove horns, to avoid getting honked at.)

In sprint races 4 - 5 laps on a medium track (as club, Blackwood) restart should not be allowed. People who chrashed their cars have just a little time, waiting for the next race.

If it`s 10 or more laps on a long track - Then a restart could be considered, once and only once, to give the racers a second possibillity.

Often restarts is being offered by the race leaders, if we are few racers on a track, and someone have missed a corner in the beginning of the race. restarts are seldom on a full server.

But being a simulator, restarts should not happen. EVER !

If you have the little map turned on - You will notice the small squares as you race.

Couldn`t this squares be numbers, so all racers behind you had a red (or orange) number, telling you how far behind (laps) they were. Same for the leaders, which could be green.

Quote from Bawbag :

In my opinion the real blue flag rules shouldn't be used in all LFS situations.

Like if the leaders are on lap 4/10 and someone joins the race, when the guy who just joined is about to be passed by the leaders he should not compramise the leaders line at all, IE: Make them have to drive on a slower line to get past or whatever.

Then in situations when someone started the race at the same time as the leaders he shouldn't be so obliged to slow down but should stay off the racing line, i've had many encounters when going passed people who have been blue flagged and they just turn in and take us both out.

I think it's just to do with how much respect the guy with the blue flags has for his fellow racers.

Grrrrr !
People joining a race, have to learn - NOT TO INTERACT WITH THE ONGOING RACE - To many just pit out in front of the leaders and causes many problems. I pitty a racer which is capable of doing that. I don`t think you can explain him why he have to be carefull - He is born dumb !!

Blue flag !?

Where I come from, which is Denmark, we read a blue flag like this : Prepare to get overhoaled. Do this when its SAFE !!! And only then. It means, leave raceline, first time possible. There by you give the leader his chanche to get by.

I must admit it pis... me off, when people writes "BLUE FLAG BLUE FLAG ... Get out of my way ****s" They should be banned instantly. Same way goes the guys (and girls) who uses their car horns in a race.

Text communication between racers, should not be possible, during a race, and honking neither. It doesn`t happen in IRL racing.

Quote from JJ72 :

Ohhh I thought of something similiar but it's base on Bestmotoring instead.

For Topgear you really need a witty host for the show and a good sidekick as well, but that sort of person is really hard to find?

And some english cars

Quote from GWADanny :

My idea is to e-mail to Top Gear telling them about this game asking them to try it out and see how they do on it. For any1 who watches Top Gear it would be a good idea and they could say how realistic they think it is and what improvements need to be made. It could help the game and we whould see how crap they are on here . In a previous episode they go on GT to do laps on there and do laps in real life and see how diferent it is. what do you all think of this idea ?

Top gear can be fun to watch, but only those shows where absolutely NO ENGLISH CARS IS PRESENT !

Is there any english cars in Lfs ? Lx4 and lx6 (Caterhams ?) If not you will get no reply from them

There is a piece of software, out there. I think its named replay analyzer. With this software you make a file of your best lap, and maby the wr.

Now you can see - When you playback the races - Exactly where you loose (or maby gain) time on the wr racer.

It doesn`t improve your driving, but it gives you a hint, which sectors and turns you should use your training hours on.

Quote from djdolber :

Good thought behind the idea.. But i agree it could drive people away from racing online.

What if there was statistics over crashes attached to drivers. This could include how serious crashes the driver has been involved in. Like for example: "crashes involving 3 or more cars", Or simply a counter of how many times your car has been severly damaged, or something similar. Could prove handy.. There could also be an icon in lfsworld, like "most serious crashes ever/this month" etc.. Anyone who cares about their online reputation would try to avoid crashing as much as possible. (i agree that innocent people would get some crashes to but i think it would probably show in the end that some people may be more dangerous, there will probably me a norm, no of crashes/month, but some will surely rise above the norm)

Great idea !

A crashing statistic.

I hope you can catch the ironi, my message contains.

In Lfs !

If Lfs is supposed to be a simulator, then accidents must end up in death or injury for the racer.

We then can discuss what death or injury would mean for the racer, but death could be 24 hours with no possibility to race online. Injuries could be 2 - 3 - 6 or more hours away from the servers.

We have to find a way to stop people throwing their cars, fearless, into corners in the start and reckless driving.

Now everybody will say - Innocent people will be hit by such a rule - YES ! And they will be pissed with the racer who caused the accident and he will be noticed next time you meet him on the track.

A sligthly more "eatable" version could be, a wrecked car takes time to repair. A racer would be locked for a specific time, after an accident, with no possibility to join any online servers.

As Lfs is now, its just another game !? - Let`s get serious people and punish the wreckers.