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Kunos Simulazioni - Assetto Corsa
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Who needs this crap, I seriously want Multiplayer already.
Quote from Kristi :Who needs this crap, I seriously want Multiplayer already.

I want this crap, Ferrari 312t and more + the Multiplayer
But I don't like them spending time on Ai, seriously who will use them when the MP will be out?
btw, who said MP will not be available for 0.8 update?
We are happy with a few bugfixes and severe content with the latest patches. That's already quite a few improvements, content in there mentioned. I don't think MP has a place in there for 0.8.
Quote from kars19 :
But I don't like them spending time on Ai, seriously who will use them when the MP will be out?

According to their own research... over 80% of sim racers never race online. That is why AI is crucial for them to get right.
That may have been true for netkar, but I would think that had other reasons.
Good AI allows for a better career / singleplayer mode though, if it has enough depth surely that's not a bad thing?
Is it a good thing? yes! Should other things have priority on such a small team? absolutely!

There's still so many small (and slightly bigger) things that remind me why I had a love hate relationship with netkar and of course the elephant in the room multiplayer.
It's the FFB updates that could make or break AC for me in the long term. I like AC but I've been niggled from the outset by a few things which apparently they are looking at sorting out, so that's good. No idea when that will happen though.
Other than the first week, I doubt I'll race online with it. I honestly would prefer a decent AI.
Quote from tristancliffe :Other than the first week, I doubt I'll race online with it. I honestly would prefer a decent AI.

No matter how human like and realistic Ai will be made in future, they won't give me any satisfaction when I am faster than them or vice versa, and I don't get any emotions when I crash them, or they f**k up my race.

Nobody will care if you win some race against 100% Ai, or finish career mode on hardest level, if there will be one in future.
But people will care and remember you if you win in some league race
I just did this video now and uploaded it on youtube.

It was intended to see if I could make a video playing in 60fps so I did some tweaks here and there and this was the result:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CqCig5TFEs

You need to set the speed to x2.0!

Enjoy
Video is private
Sorry it is now public!
Quote from kars19 :No matter how human like and realistic Ai will be made in future, they won't give me any satisfaction when I am faster than them or vice versa, and I don't get any emotions when I crash them, or they f**k up my race.

Nobody will care if you win some race against 100% Ai, or finish career mode on hardest level, if there will be one in future.
But people will care and remember you if you win in some league race

I don't have time to learn the cars and tracks enough to be quick online. I don't care for the selfish attitude of online racers (restart now, revenge wrecks, setup exploits), and I certainly don't have time to do leagues. I've won enough league races in my time, and don't need more accolades. I just want to fire up when I have a spare hour (between real racing cars and bed time) to enjoy a scamper around a track on my terms. AI can provide that, online generally can't.
Quote from tristancliffe :AI can provide that, online generally can't.

It just cannot, it's proven by just every AI ever tried to be implemented in a sim, it just doesn't work and their behavior is never (will never be?) like the real people.. It automatically becomes an arcade racer or a mobile phone game when i race the AI's..
As long as they don't cheat (more power/more grip), then I'm reasonably happy. Online requires too much dedication - dedication I used to have time for, but not any more. If there is no AI then it's just a hotlapping game, which is fun but I do need a but of wheel to wheel.

Barely used nKP , rF or GT5 online, and whilst I was online all the time in LFS for a while, it's an offline only game for me now.
Tristan you goddam pussy! Racing is not about being the best or winning races you knob, it's about racing. Racing is going door to door and loving the challenge even when you lose. You sound so much like a spoilt rich kid who's parents gave you the opportunities that normal SIM racers would dream of.

Who gives a shit if your quick online? No one.. Get in the sim and enjoy it you knobber
Quote from kars19 :More info about the update
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I wouldn't link to those pricks. They'll post PMs you send to them. Don't give them the page views and ad revenue.
All that bothers me about AC is that running triples wrecks the FPS. Using a 4670K OC'ed and a GTX770 and I've got almost everything turned off to get a decent frame-rate at my res, I could turn a few things on and get 60fps but it's a stuttery mess and gives me a headache after 5 minutes, or use vsync and put up with the input lag, but it really needs 120 ish to get it smooth enough to feel good. Obviously a 770 isn't exactly top end hardware, but it's got more than enough grunt for iR to run at 120 with everything maxed and looking 10x better than AC on min settings.
Quote from tristancliffe :I don't have time to learn the cars and tracks enough to be quick online. I don't care for the selfish attitude of online racers (restart now, revenge wrecks, setup exploits), and I certainly don't have time to do leagues. I've won enough league races in my time, and don't need more accolades. I just want to fire up when I have a spare hour (between real racing cars and bed time) to enjoy a scamper around a track on my terms. AI can provide that, online generally can't.

Um, I smell some contradiction in that post, quite a big one even. You are calling online simracers selfish, yet you would happily take the chance away from the majority of the community, because you can't be assed to join a server and have fun. Sounds logical to me indeed.

I'm sure there will be pickup races like CTRA in LFS, and at that point, nobody cares if you are 1st or 15th. You have a place to go door to door with actual humans. Of course it feels good to win something, but hey you learn from your own mistakes, right?


@DeKo, just wait for the next update. It will have a few optimization changes promised. That video linked on the other page seems to be pretty neat at that point.
Quote from Kristi :I'm sure there will be pickup races like CTRA in LFS, and at that point, nobody cares if you are 1st or 15th. You have a place to go door to door with actual humans. Of course it feels good to win something, but hey you learn from your own mistakes, right?

Honestly, I'm not sure if AC will end up with pickup races. The way the UI currently is is so much like NKP was, that it scares me because it seems like it will be this horribly rigid system like NKP.
Quote from Kristi :Um, I smell some contradiction in that post, quite a big one even. You are calling online simracers selfish, yet you would happily take the chance away from the majority of the community, because you can't be assed to join a server and have fun. Sounds logical to me indeed.

I'm sure there will be pickup races like CTRA in LFS, and at that point, nobody cares if you are 1st or 15th. You have a place to go door to door with actual humans. Of course it feels good to win something, but hey you learn from your own mistakes, right?

You missed his point. Firing up the game and having an offline race with AI is faster to setup that getting online, searching for an online server/race with a combo you like, joining, waiting for the race to start, get wrecked on T1 because Online, waiting for restart, restarting, etc , etc.

You did play LFS online, didn't you?
Can't see the problem with refining AI, it's true that a lot of people race offline. Then why not. MP will come whenever it comes, I'm not sitting here waiting for it and cry after each update that why is X "useless" feature included and why MP isn't... The sim is getting better and better every 2 weeks. I'm sure they'll deliver MP in a few weeks, we only have to wait. At least this community is well experienced in waiting.
Quote from Töki (HUN) :...I'm not sitting here waiting for it and cry...

That's the favorite activity of many people on this forum... they have been doing it for the last five or six years

Kunos Simulazioni - Assetto Corsa
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