I haven't got any useful reference from PiranMOTO - I don't send anywhere near that much on any of the servers. The closest I've come to it is sending an entire layout's worth of objects via AXM all in one go - I'd removed the delay by mistake - and nothing bad happened, they all loaded. That would have been to local LFS rather than DCON, though.

Are all 27 buttons changing each second? If they're not, you could save traffic by just sending what changes each time.

Mid-december, eh? There's a good chance I'll have my head in an oven round about that time

There's one for blender 2.62 or lower, if that's any help?
https://www.lfs.net/forum/thre ... ender-CMX-importer-plugin

I'm not saying it's the same, just not entirely exertion-free. My being knackered is more of a comment on my fitness than on effort required

Quote from Ped7g :

...maybe too soft on the people, sometimes I wish it would exercise me a bit more.

I'm knackered after an hour of banger racing on Friday night (not so much "normal" racing, but still a little). Maybe it's the 200% FFB strength, but I do like my cars to fight back Warm house is also a problem, I need a fan on me from about 10 minutes in if my wife has been anywhere near the thermostat.

Quote from Scawen :

The truth is it's a total game changer. It's really an amazing feeling to be IN the game (VR) instead of seeming to look at it remotely through a window (monitor).

I had the chance to try a VR headset a while back (an FPS game, not LFS) and turned it down - I'm scared that as soon as I've experienced it, it'll lessen my ability to get immersion on a monitor setup. I ain't taking that risk until I can afford to get one for myself

+1 for the Driver fanclub, me and the kids used to take turns to see how long we could last in oncoming traffic

Quote from DataFi :

That being said rally and cruise communities would most likely love a big open world.

Pardon the plug, but there's 30 miles / 49km of Westhill mixed-surface waiting for you now at PiranMOTORally

Lap stats and more pics at piranmoto.co.uk/tracks/203

Quote from Scawen :

No, we really cannot discuss Brexit here.

Quite! I've been dreading it infecting LFS for a while, either in forum or on track. I was just surprised to see the first mention I've come across here come from you, given your aversion to worm-cans

I used to frequent a particular guitar players' forum, back in the day. There was a lot of off-topic, and it was a friendly, supportive place so they had a rule to keep things civil, "no religion or politics". It was a wonderful thing until they made an exception for song lyrics - on the basis that people shouldn't be barred from discussing songs they'd written on that kind of forum. Ooops. Half the forum immediately started ranting religion in rhyme and a good half of the rest left, myself included.

Quote from Scawen :

...Brexit...

Can open, worms as far as the eye can see!

Quote from RC-Maus :

I just can't believe CO2 is cause warming.

The thing that really put it into perspective for me was this: https://xkcd.com/1732/

Quote from Racer X NZ :

I had hoped that the physic's update would actually have some vague (well, since 2006..) priority but it's awesome to see that the lighting changes are being worked on instead......

I'd tell you that it's all in there together, as has been explained ad nauseum... but you already know that.

There's some copies on Ebay

When is it likely to be up? I haven't seen it yet

Scawen's said before that he would need to do a lot of work on the track editor to make it publicly releasable, and that that's the plan* for when he considers LFS finished.

(*plan, not sworn oath signed in blood )

Still living in tyres-that-don't-feel-woolly-regardless-of-release-date, myself, but I can't speak for anyone else. I'd also like to note that I don't hang around in PS2 Gran Turismo forums telling people that they're wrong to use it, let alone anonymously telling them why they think the way they do.

The problem is that people who claim to have moved on are here leaving a pretty shitty message to anyone new poking around the forums to get a feel for LFS, and especially so in the threads about development.

Oh hey, it's that bit of the argument again.

That's where I say "Car-feel is priority #1. LFS has the best car-feel. Next!"

Could LFS not run the words in an MSO packet through a blacklist before it prints it to screen? It could then do some combination of blocking the message; logging the IP; kicking/banning the user; notifying you for verification; etc.

I don't think you can get direction or an actual speed, just the weak/strong value that you don't want - which I think just sets a range for a random value.

I would be delighted to find out that I'm wrong though

Give me hybrids/knobblies on the FXR or give me death!

4WD and 200 bhp/t on the RB4 is nice to throw around dirt/grass tracks, but the 450 bhp/t FXR would be a whole other level.

https://www.lfs.net/forum/0/search/title:steam

Maybe one day, but not any time soon was the verdict, IIRC.

Quote from PikaTutoriales18 :

Do I really need to show you my friend for a profile picture? You really can't believe me? Do you know that I want to have a better computer so I can play with many of you and now you tell me that you can't believe me for a simple photo? And now you tell me that I am a simple liar who is no longer welcome to this amazing game?

Quote from PikaTutoriales18 :

I hope that Fern Bay does not have many changes as Westhill had them since it is very difficult to get used to a new track

C'mon fella, you can't put on that much outrage if you're only gonna keep it together for 4 days...

I wouldn't like it myself, but that's the beauty of InSim - we get to add things along these lines per server, without needing it programmed in by Scawen.

I think people sell LFS short a little when they consider it only for serious racing. It's a racing simulator by design, but that necessarily entails simulating a car. The racing part is, looking from a step back, 'just' a layer of organisation on top of the car simulator. It's a convenience that is not strictly necessary to achieve the basic aim of racing cars.

I love serious racing (I consider my LFS time as training, rather than playing - I gave up the guitar for it), but I also love various types of what can only be considered goofing around in a car. (Hence the PiranMOTO range of servers: there's plenty of serious servers out there with standard tracks, so mine are all there to fill in gaps. Some serious racing on layouts, some games, and some in-between).

Long story short: If I had a disposable car and a large patch of tarmac in real life, I know I wouldn't just be training with it, I would also spend some time hooning about. If I could play tag in my car without destroying it, myself and my friends, I would do so in an instant. LFS gives me the chance

Quote from SimulatorRental.com :

Just like if a big soccer ball and goals where added to play car-soccer, or if there was a demo derby type track, or the big loop-loop autocross track, the autocross stunt tracks, or… sigh... cruising.

Until such time as a soccer ball is added, people have been using a volunteer 'ball' in a UF1

Quote from Eclipsed :

You can see surface temperature while holding ctrl+shift.

Today's new-thing-learned comes early, cheers Rony

So that's username/playername, FPS/clock, and now a whole new mode of tyre temp that I didn't even know I could get at and will massively cut the time it takes to get camber right, if not also improving the accuracy of testing.

Any other ctrl+shift magic I've missed? (what do you mean greedy? )

Aleksandr: Those vids were interesting, and a good demonstration of the difference and relation between surface and carcass temps... you could leave them in the post even if you want to remove the question.

Edit: Something changed in a recent patch, or I'm missing something? I couldn't see any difference to the tyre display with ctrl+shift held down (The FPS/clock changed, so LFS is receiving the keys). I did doughnuts and kept the wheels spinning constantly to go from blue to red as quickly as possible, on the assumption that that would maximise the difference between the two temps.

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It should also be noted that there's nothing in the remote viewer that requires LFS-side coding, it's all through the relay (ie, anyone JS/Canvas capable can make a replacement... not just Victor).