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Cars we wanna see in S3
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Quote from Ca18Slider :<tears>

Are you saying that those wings and bodykits and spoilers and rims in mid-priced cars does anything? I doubt the manufacturer haven't even tested them on windtunnel. They just include them to their car (It costs 1.99$ more to build) so F'n'F freaks drools and tells their daddy to buy one.

I understand wings on Porsche 911, and they have even tested it in windtunnel. But how about mazda or any other bling-bling?
I'm assuming, that in LFS, they serve there purpose. Forget the price, it's the efficiency of the cars as they are... and apparently because F'n'F says that Mazda and Nissan and the lot that tuner ricey boys use, that we want it for bling bling, right? All that's being asked is the ability to modify the car to an understandable point. Hell, I can understand lower profile tires too, less tirewall bend. That's understandable, but of course in your world that's only for the Escalades and Pathfinders that gotta have 5600W worth of speakers in the back, and hoes'in'da front right?
THe big majority of the aftermarket body kits do nothing to affect aerodynamics, at least not on a visible scale. A splitter will do much more, since it will cut the air more efficiently and force it over the top and speed up the (less of it) air under car lowering the pressure thus sucking the car down. Yes, the spoilr on the back does make a big difference, especially at high speeds. But i just can not imagine the XRT without it. Call me a rice boy, i don't care, i know i'm not.

About the drifting, i did it for over 2 years (started at the end of 2003, on Xmas, with a keyboard, got a wheel and S2 in spring 2004). I quit just because of the thing you say you know very well - the society. Everybody wants body kits, mroe power, more steering angle, better tires, etc. Why can all the old school guys drift like nothing happened? Oh, nothing did happen. And they just pwn. That's the thing. Take a look at CObalt BLue for example (used to be in nsane, dunno where he's now). Take a look at some SWC (if they still exist) or Saiko D guys. THey did the things the same 3 years ago.
what i woud like to see
i woud like to see some muscle cars for example som old school like camaros plymouths and dodge and really woud like to see a roadrunner
Mhhm, and I'm still doing the same thing I did several years ago, just like I did in MIDWEST and Wangan Ghost back in demo. I'm not asking for rice either, just the freedom to change the car in a way, that believe it or not, can make a difference.
Ford Transit ftw

Optional sandbags for rear axles!
I would like Formula Offroad Cars and Tracks
wouls bw cool if there was a bmw 740i v8 engine 2001 year
one car that i would like to appear on S3 its something like a honda, N/A...10000 rpm.. a metalic kind of engine sound...
We need a more powerful 4x4, Something like an FQ400 or New Nissan GTR. Also something like a New BMW M5...

A super car type motor could be fun too, Something like a Lamborghini LP640 or Ferrari F430
Haven't heard <insert_your_favorite_super_car_manufacturer_here> club racing. Neither have I heard <insert_your_favorite_super_car_manufacturer_here> cup.

To be honest, they are too expensive for racing-purposes. They have "other purposes", like helping you to get laid with a moviestar or something. Nothing else.
Quote from Gekkibi :Haven't heard <insert_your_favorite_super_car_manufacturer_here> club racing. Neither have I heard <insert_your_favorite_super_car_manufacturer_here> cup.

To be honest, they are too expensive for racing-purposes. They have "other purposes", like helping you to get laid with a moviestar or something. Nothing else.

sorry, can't leave this post untouched

what do you mean with "other purposes" and "nothing else"? they are not supposed to race? following your thought, there are no cars for racing purposes. cars were originally made to take you from point A to point B in a faster and more comfortable way, only then competitions for the fastest cars started.

seriously, what's the problem of supercars? they have an engine? Yes. They have 4 wheels? Yes. They have a seat and a steering wheel? Yes. So yes, i think they can be raced. "they are too expensive"? afaik there is no money system in lfs, so why should you bother with that? I'm not a fan of supercars myself, but i see no reason to leave them out of the game, since they have lots of fans, as you probably already noticed.

and finally, to the topic question, my answer is: anything with wheels, an engine, a steering wheel and in someway resembling a real life car, is worth adding to lfs.
Quote from jonny__27 :...

LFS tries to simulate real racing, and have you ever seen race where were Bugatti Veyron's? Nope, because they are too expensive for racing-purposes.

Because monster cars have wheels, seatbelts, engines etc etc, should they be included to a racing simulator? How about fire-trucks?
Quote from Gekkibi :LFS tries to simulate real racing, and have you ever seen race where were Bugatti Veyron's? Nope, because they are too expensive for racing-purposes.

Because monster cars have wheels, seatbelts, engines etc etc, should they be included to a racing simulator? How about fire-trucks?

what? afaik i didn't mentioned any trucks. aren't you taking this game too seriously?
Agree with Johny(partly ), those supercars(couse we are talking about supercars, not fire trucks ) are meant to be raced on a track if a person who drives it wishes to. Btw. FZ5 resembles a Porsche... its not a cheap car . What I alson want to add... I would like to see cars LIKE Lamborghini, Ferrari etc... but not Lamborghini, Ferrari exacly(just imagine, most of the people would like to drive it because they are "real", and that would be kind of painful for the rest of LFS cars, furthermore license will be expensive ). Just cars that are around that power . I wouldn't like to see Veyron... it's ridiculous (or anything around that power , but that's my opinion ^^).
Quote from Byku :Btw. FZ5 resembles a Porsche... its not a cheap car .

However, I have heard of Porsche racing cup. In matter of fact, I belong to one.


Edit: If you check these rules, you find the word "911" used quit often.
Quote from Gekkibi :LFS tries to simulate real racing, and have you ever seen race where were Bugatti Veyron's? Nope, because they are too expensive for racing-purposes.

Because monster cars have wheels, seatbelts, engines etc etc, should they be included to a racing simulator? How about fire-trucks?

Who cares if they are too expensive for racing? This is a game.
Even if nobodies race it IRL (well there's not enough of them to make a race anyway), it is still physically possible and actually physics are the only boundaries of a simulation. Not real life behaviors.
BTW that part of the interest of a simulation. You can also do things too dangerous or too expensive to be done IRL.

Well I'm not for the Veyron but only because it's full of electronics craps that would make it far too difficult to be simulated properly. We'd probably end up with a terrible result.
Quote from Maelstrom :Who cares if they are too expensive for racing? This is a game.

Then we should have bunch of other cars not used to race (LFS is a RACING simulator, after all...). Carbage-truck cup, anyone?
Quote from Gekkibi :Then we should have bunch of other cars not used to race (LFS is a RACING simulator, after all...). Carbage-truck cup, anyone?

Well considering that you can find Bus race out there I guess you'll always find people nuts enough to race anything, from a supermarket kart to a rocket propelled wheel chair!
Quote from Maelstrom :Well considering that you can find Bus race out there I guess you'll always find people nuts enough to race anything, from a supermarket kart to a rocket propelled wheel chair!

Don't forget to mention those vehicles from Whacky Wheels. Devs should include them to LFS.

No, people wouldn't want to race with anything.

And I think it is more important to have wide variety of classes than specific cars in a same class (For example 10 "different kind of" family cars. Couple of volvos, couple of peugeots, at least three nissans etc).

Too many wants to have specific cars (And super-cars) because of the appearance.
Indeed Gekkibi, no sarcazm needed. Btw. Aren't there Corvette Cups(I suppose there are)? Like Porsche there can be cups for other cars which have similar class.

Btw. I didn't read it all, but i suppose those are cups for stock cars(directly from a dealer), so Porsche Carrera GT(which has 605 bhp) can also join? So it CAN be raced? And if a person owning one would like to join he/she can?

But hell, what are we arguing about? ^^ I mean, You are after or againts cars of around 600bhp stock car in LFS? .... wait we are arguing O.o? Oh, and I agree with You Gekkibi, we need more classes than specific cars in the same class . Oh and I dont want supercars only because of its appearance, but also because of it's power (and propably most of the people ). Btw. Appearance IS important, isn't it? ^^ I mean, You wouldn't like to drive a XRT looking like a "fire truck"? ^^


Oh and muscle cars *_*... live-axe, look and powah... :P(had to say this:doh.
Quote from Byku : Btw. Appearance IS important, isn't it? ^^ I mean, You wouldn't like to drive a XRT looking like a "fire truck"? ^^

To me, appearance isn't important. I would still drive XRT, even it looks XRG.

And no, I don't have anything against horse powers. But imho the cars should be cars what are used for racing. Dragster? Now that would be awesome addition. Beetle? Yep, used for racing. Lada 1200? Yep, in "bump & jump". Random american muscle from 60's? Of course. Used. Porsche 356? Indeed used. Bugatti Veyron? Seen it on top gear doesn't mean it is a race car. I wouldn't like kleinbus, either (I will change my opinion if someone proves it is used in races).
Quote from Gekkibi :To me, appearance isn't important. I would still drive XRT, even it looks XRG.

And no, I don't have anything against horse powers. But imho the cars should be cars what are used for racing. Dragster? Now that would be awesome addition. Beetle? Yep, used for racing. Lada 1200? Yep, in "bump & jump". Random american muscle from 60's? Of course. Used. Porsche 356? Indeed used. Bugatti Veyron? Seen it on top gear doesn't mean it is a race car. I wouldn't like kleinbus, either (I will change my opinion if someone proves it is used in races).

First of all... there is lack of logic in our argument.... those cars we have in LFS aren't raced in real life(at least most of it) couse they dont exist .

But seriously, i wouldn't like to see Veyron(or I should rather say, a car like Veyron) in LFS beacuse... sanity... and judging which car should be in LFS beacuse it is or isn't raced.... well... like someone said... if someone wants to race with something he/she can . There might be someone racing Veyron in the future............. :drink:... mad people .

Btw. We agree on most so it's kinda pointless sticking to this "race or not-race" stuff (Is RAC raced in RL? ). Furthermore gtg to bed, goodnight ^^.

Btw2. But again it's our opinion , the final word belongs to devs :bannana_g
I've said once, I'll say again,

Stag! (well stag-a-like obviously, and without the reliability issues...)

Maybe a nice lightweight small engine sports car, like the MGB or Elan?

Something that with only 1.6-1.8 engine but only weighs a shade more than the LX cars and will keep up with the TBOs around the corners especially, and to go with the new car a set of hillclimb tracks, hehe

I'd like to see more mid engined cars myself, and more club-class racing cars. Also a 300-400bhp rally machine would be a nice addition...
hmm something like an 550bhp NSX would be great.
or anything wif an engine in the middle and rear wheel drive.
but PLEASE.
dont make it handle like the RAC. its aweful
something like a F430 would be great.
actually. 430 Scuderia would be even better.

and please.
i want NA.

Cars we wanna see in S3
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