The online racing simulator
Searching in All forums
(404 results)
avih
S2 licensed
Quote from Scawen : When selecting "Open with Live for Speed" in Firefox's download dialog it is copied with read only attributes.

There could be other scenarios, like if the setup is on a read-only media. In general, I'd think it should be considered an LFS issue, as it's LFS itself which imports the file and expects the result to be writable (apparently) but doesn't take steps to ensure it.
avih
S2 licensed
Quote from Scawen :I seem to have fixed the S2 unlocking bug, on the master server.

I've reset all unlocks to 3 again. Please try to unlock if you have an S2 license, and let me know!

Thanks. It worked, but I'm seeing much less servers that I usually see.

For non-private and non-empty, I see 6 (expectedly grayed out) S3 servers, and 8 other servers (both demo and S2).

And another question, should it be possible to hide servers which I'm not allowed to enter? (S3 servers with S2 license) if yes, how?
avih
S2 licensed
This is purely guessing, but here it goes:

IMO they do want LFS to keep developing, but bumped into some technical/life/whatever stuff which slowed progress enough such that it had lost its momentum.

If they find the energies and motivation etc to progress it further, then they will. Otherwise, it will just "live" as long as they maintain the master server and as long as users are using it.

It's not that they don't have the intention to work on it further IMO, it's just that it doesn't happen - which is why it wasn't declared "dead".

So best thing to do is just keep on with your life regardless of LFS, and if some new version/content/whatever comes along at some day, enjoy it if you're still around.
avih
S2 licensed
How about uploading them to youtube?
avih
S2 licensed
Quote from JBiturbo :
...
Please note this, im not arguing about the money i spent, im arguing about false expectations.

Indeed, no one could argue that expectations were created, even if an official release date was never given (but it was pretty clear at some stages that new release should arrive in the range of weeks or at least months).

I do honestly believe that they did intend to release the stuff back then, and since then, and probably they still do.

However, life cannot always go as planned, stuff changes priorities, resources change, etc. They still keep the servers alive without any stream of income which I'm aware of, and I still think they want to release new stuff. I'd certainly like that as well.

Will it ever happen? maybe yes, maybe not. That's how it is right now. As long as the servers are still alive, and people can enjoy them (though personally I haven't raced for more than a year, but still visit the forum once in a while), no one is forced to stay. Bitching about it won't help anyone, and won't change anything - it's been done enough over the past few years.

I do hope new stuff will be released at some stage, however. LFS is IMO still one of the better and more unique simulators out there.

But I've stopped holding my breath...
Last edited by avih, .
avih
S2 licensed
Glad to see LFS being worked on
avih
S2 licensed
Quote from MiguelMargarido :
...
UPDATE:

launched LFS windowed.

Went to OPTIONS.

Selected 1024*768.

Another pitch black screen. Frozen again.

Reboot again.

It smells like a driver issue to me. I'd suggest installing the latest GFX drivers for your system.
avih
S2 licensed
Quote from Scawen :...
The fix : Driver sent his / her setup - message is now displayed only once

Hmm... sometimes people don't notice the message (especially newbies), I always send 3-4 times in a row to make sure the other guy got the message. Never got anyone annoyed by it... on the contrary...

Not sure it's worth putting time into fine tuning it, but just thought I'd make the other side heard too.

Keep up the good work
avih
S2 licensed
Got it, thanks. If I want to still use older replays (some go pretty long back), can I still have the older lfs.exe file at the same folder as the new? or would I have to keeps the pre/post z35 installs in different folders?

[edit]
Quote from Scawen :
...
Z35 will be able to watch replays recorded in pre-Z35.

...

I hope that is detailed enough so I can go back to work now.

Here is a link to my actual progress report which I think is more interesting in case anyone missed it :
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1594025#post1594025

Oops, must have misread that one, my apologies. Anyway, I do follow your progress updates, and I find them quite interesting
Last edited by avih, .
avih
S2 licensed
Thanks. Could you please specify then what exactly is going to break (backward compatibility wise)?
avih
S2 licensed
Scawen, if I understand correctly, your next patch would be an incompatible one? with the incompatibility mostly due to some layout stuff and custom objects? What exactly is the nature of this incompatibility? Replays? WRs? It seems the recent collision changes, while affecting physics to a degree, do not break compatibility, which is nice.

Is this patch going to be promoted as an official update eventually? If yes, would that be smart to break backward compatibility for reasons other than a physics update or meaningful tracks updates?
avih
S2 licensed
Quote from sermilan :But if you then hit such a hardened barrier there, all the chances are that your car will be spread on it's exit rather than those tires, as it is has been the case so far.

Too risky, in my opinion.

First, these are tires and not a brick wall (though a brick wall might be nice too), so your car will behave normally when hitting them.

Second, a car that hits these tires at full speed will mostly lose control there anyway, so instead of car and tires all over the place, there will only be a car.

It's a major "pileup" point anyway, so less scattered tires on the road can only improve the situation there.

I know what I'm talking about, I got enough experience on this track.
avih
S2 licensed
Scawen, while you're at minor layout/objects issues, could some tires barriers become "non movable"? either as a concrete barrier, or still as tires, but just don't let them scatter when hit?

The specific barrier I had in mind is the last tires barrier before the main straight at the exit of AS3 chicane.

The thing is that this specific chicane is already notorious because you have to commit to your line to be fast through it, but the smallest of miscalculation, and the tires get hit, and everyone following you is having to cope with sometimes impossible situations of tires all over the road, when you're at 180KPH with very little margin to maneuver around them, if at all.

This specific barrier, because it's tendency to scatter the tires, and it's location, mostly hurts the drivers following the one who hit the tires, and it's even more annoying when the one who hit the barrier is a backmarker driving just in front of your nose.

So, if these tires can be "connected" together, and to the wall while you're at it, I think it'll improve the situation at this chicane greatly...
avih
S2 licensed
Take 10 minutes to read this thread. I think it has the info you seek.
avih
S2 licensed
Perhaps the solution, if allowing vote-ban, is to make it only last a day or so? Later an admin can review the ban (hopefully with auo-saved replay after such successful vote-ban) and decide if the act requires a longer ban?
avih
S2 licensed
Quote from Nick7 :Back to original topic

Few months ago I also tried LFS, but under VMware, with 3D acceleration.
E6750 @3.4GHz / Geforce GTX275 on Windows7 host and WinXP guest.

It run at around 30-ish FPS, no graphic glitches.

Actually, I've read some more about D3D in Virtualbox. It seem they actually incorporated the wineD3D solution I mentioned earlier, but in a sort of unofficial way.

After windows in installed, one still needs to install the official DirectX, but then, instead of installing wineD3D, copy the same files (possibly slightly more adapted to virtualbox) from their guest-additions CD image to the system32 folder.

Using this solution, I also got around 20-60+(!!) FPS and without graphical glitches, but at lowest visual settings and low-res graphics. Most of the time it's on 30-50 FPS. It's better, but still around 3x-10x slower than LFS running native on the same system.

But it is better

Last edited by avih, .
avih
S2 licensed
Quote from CSU1 :...so this might work? :

WAN > XP(USB)---ICS---VM(WAN) > VM(WAN)---PFsense---VM(LAN) > VM(LAN) > XP(LAN) > XP(LAN) > Wireless router???

...I'm thinking what's the point now


The only reason I need to do it this way is because of the problem linked above(PFsense wont work with a USB NIC as the WAN).

This probably requires a topic of it's own, but it seems a bit complex to me. Why the ICS, 2nd VM(LAN) and 2nd XP(LAN)?

Again, I'm not a network guru, but I think you can probably do with a VM most of the things that you can do with a dedicated machine on your network. Especially if you have a dedicated NIC for the VM, but possibly with bridged connection as well.

Beyond that, I usually try not creating a too complex setup, so my advice at such cased would be limited
avih
S2 licensed
Quote from Shadowww :Uhm as far as I know VM's can only serve network to host PC.

I'm definitely not a network guru, but I think it's incorrect. The VM can take control over a specific NIC if you assign it to, and use it as it's own, or even "piggyback" your main/single NIC in a bridged connection (the VM software installs special driver into the host), at which case the router (if you have one) actually sees 2 different NICs, each with it's own MAC address, assigns each it's own IP etc, which practically results in the VM being an autonomous network entity as far as the rest of the network is concerned.
Last edited by avih, .
avih
S2 licensed
Quote from CSU1 :...kinda OT:

I'e never used a VM and am curious, what % of system resources does a VM hog?...would it cripple an old machine ie. an XP box with 500mb ram 1.6GHZ using it for network analyses ???

You define the maximum amount of RAM the VM uses. It can use much less than the max. The CPU is shared when needed, so imagine running the additional application on your host machine, it'll be similar. Overheads can be relatively low, depending on your CPU features.

Just give it a go, might be worth it.
Last edited by avih, .
avih
S2 licensed
Quote from Ivo Georgiev :Interesting. Try VMWare if you have a license.

You don't need to pay for a license these days. The latest free VMware Player lets you create and manage VMs, but apparently lacks some enterprise features, although it's perfectly enough for home/testing scenarios.

However, I don't like VMware. I've used it in the past, but recent versions of Virtualbox are as good as vmware for me, and [arguably] better in their host integration (seamless/unity modes). And vbox is OSS, so VBox it is for me.

I do believe VMware has better hardware acceleration though, but I didn't try it with LFS.
Last edited by avih, .
LFS runs in Virtualbox
avih
S2 licensed
Tried just for the fun of it, and it works.

Here's the setup:

Host: E8400/4G/GTX260/XP32-SP3
Virtualbox: Version 3.1.2
Guest: Windows 7 Ultimate 32

Although Win7 should include DirectX by default, IIRC LFS wouldn't run, and so I've downloaded and installed the latest DirectX 9.x.

LFS would now run, but way too slow (1 fps or less). I guess it Does Direct3D in pure software due to missing proper [virtual] hardware drivers.

Virtualbox does support (if enabled) 3D acceleration via OpenGL. So OpenGL commands on the guest are redirected to the Host hardware acceleration layer. As such, OpenGL games (such as Half-Life 1) run perfectly well on this setup and in full speed (60FPS), but not so with DirectX games.

Here comes the Wine project for help. It has a translation layer that converts Direct3D to OpenGL commands, and they have precompiled binaries for windows too. If installed on this setup (guest), it then redirects the guest Direct3D commands to the guest OpenGL, which translates into the Host's OpenGL hardware accelerated layer using Virtualbox own translation layer. So it works.

I got around 10 FPS in cockpit view of an open wheeler, and around 20 FPS in wheels view. Some world textures are a bit messed, but not too bad. I didn't try to play though, just connected to an online server and watched for a while.

Here's how it looks:



Interesting
avih
S2 licensed
Quote from danthebangerboy :I was of the understanding that the green line in the '4' display was in fact the racing line, how can the racing line be wrong??

It's not wrong, just not always the optimal line.

E.g., low HP cars tend to need a smoother line to keep corner speed because they don't have much acceleration to use on corner exit. OTOH, strong cars often use later apex, or "square the corner" lines because they're hard to control in full-throttle during a turn. With these cars you can brake later and stronger, point the car at the exit and then floor the gas for a relatively straight line acceleration. Many times it would be faster for those cars.

Generally speaking, the correct line is the one at which you can floor the throttle the earliest and keep it there till the next turn, and not necessarily a fixed function of the track geometry. Although similar for most cars, it can be slightly different according to the characteristics of the car.

That being said, the slight variations of the line is something you adapt to over time as your experience grows with various cars. For beginners though, and especially ones who are clueless about race lines, the '4' line can be of great assistance IMO, especially when they have a BLUE FLAG sign and they need to keep off the racing line
Last edited by avih, .
avih
S2 licensed
I wonder what does the server's stats say, and how different it is, if at all, from the poll results...
avih
S2 licensed
Just a quick report
Z19 had flickers at areas on which the desktop had transparent widgets (calendar etc).
Z19_3 didn't have this issue

XP/SP3/GTX260+/E8400
avih
S2 licensed
Quote from Scawen :It wasn't really sarcasm. That thing you did (asking me if I noticed something on this same thread - it is still there on the previous page) happens quite often but is quite annoying. So I don't know what do do but explain to you how I work and why I don't reply to every bug report / repeated bug report / feature request etc. If I explain this occasionally then maybe other people who want to repeat their post will think again. I'm trying to work efficiently using a thread that gets full of duplicate bug reports and some spam. The way to do it is to make notes as I go, rather than using the thread itself as a to-do list (tried that before and it was hopeless). Experience working with these test patch threads told me to write down the bug reports as I go, asking immediately if something is not clear. Later I go through my list, try to reproduce all the issues and see what I can do. Sometimes it is quite tedious work. All I really want to do is get back to development, but I will not if there are bugs in test patches. There is no need for me to say "noted" to each post. They are all noted if they are relevant.
...

Fair enough. I do understand and appreciate your efforts in listening to users and managing bugs, I'm a developer/maintainer of several projects too and so I happen to be in a similar position often.

I understand it's tedious to see bugs re-submitted, especially by the same eager user (the latter could probably be eliminated with my previous suggestion), but people still like feedback, even minimal, and so I also offer a possible solution:

Do you think it would be possible to keep a locked thread listing your current *public* checklist/buglist regarding the currently discussed release (and possibly open bugs/issues from previous releases too)? This way people wouldn't have to wade through hundreds of posts (as was in Z15 and others) before they post a bug, and I imagine it would also help reduce resubmissions in general and will make everyone happier.. less posts, more order, etc...

Even better, if you use a bug tracking system, you can occasionally export such report (possibly manually removing entries not for public consumption) and thus you wouldn't even have to manage this locked thread manually.. export, copy, done. Or even do so automatically periodically..

Anyway, just my $0.02
FGED GREDG RDFGDR GSFDG