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Kunos Simulazioni - Assetto Corsa
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Oh come on guys, you cannot really, realistically compare AC and LFS. AC has licensed tracks and cars for starters. What LFS has done for us all for over 10+yrs has been amazing for cars and tracks, game play, netcode and for most, making some fantastic friends......Lets see if AC can do the same for the next 10+yrs

Fordie
Don't get me wrong, from that standpoint i agree completely. I don't think it will ever get to that 'feeling' that LFS gave us all these years. I can't even edit textures here ffs
Just commented the tracks.. they do suck most of them, and i can't believe i was in that "NO MODS!" boat all these years..
Currently best 2 sims according to lots of people - it has to be compared.
Quote from Mysho :Driving real cars and real tracks would always be more fun. I think Eric or whoever designed LFS tracks did a great job, but why should I waste my time in AS4 @ XRR when I can just put myself at Nordschleife driving oversteery GT3... So much challenge and the physics is somehow LFS-ish, so I just can not see myself turning on LFS after proper finish of AC. Actually I haven't turned it on for ages, but this will be definite KO.

but..... but..... tyre deformation!
I'll never truly like AC until they improve the steering feel. The 458 is just so floaty feeling at low steering angles, for example, but all the cars are prone to wandering around the straight-ahead way too much.
I'll also never really get in to the online mode until they install some excellent pickup racing systems.
Oh, and whilst the topic is there, LFS circuits are excellent, imo. They fit the brief really well, the S1 tracks focused around the sorts of cars that came with them brilliantly. I never really loved Aston, but Fern Bay just captures that "style" of circuit so well, the layouts are excellent, and I would drive those tracks in any sim. South City is an excellent city circuit, and Kyoto Ring is an excellent Oval/infield circuit too. I don't care about real circuits in video games, or real cars, none of it's real so who cares? Laser scanning gives the circuit (hopefully) a realistic surface fidelity but it's still all polygons and pixels. I'll always prefer the narrow tight style circuits, and honestly I couldn't care less whether they exist in real life or not. I'd rather drive Fern Bay than some Tilke crap any day.
Fern Bay eh.. The most ridicilous layouts, kurbs, and colors of any driving game in the world It's like engine from Morrowind or something like that
And steering feel, honestly i have no idea what you're talking about , every E30 version, X-Bow, Formula Abarth, Lotus 2-11 etc.. give pornographic feel through the steering wheel.. Not all cars i agree, some are a tad floaty and dead.
e30 is better, the D version even better still, KTM is excellent, don't like the F Abarth changing direction in it feels like spinning a bicycle pedal the wrong way, 2-11 is okay. Almost all the cars will "try" to wander, you'll straighten the steering and there's a little yaw, like a lazy shimmy. Or you'll make a small correction of line on a straight, and then have to lock down the lazy attempt to oscillate (it doesn't have to actually oscillate for you to feel it trying to). I'm quite fussy.

Nothing wrong with the layouts or kerbs of Fern Bay. They are what they are, some crappy low budget poorly maintained circuits on some island in the Caribbean, perfect. Colours? Trees green, sand yellow, tarmac grey: Done
Quote from Boris Lozac :
And steering feel, honestly i have no idea what you're talking about , every E30 version, X-Bow, Formula Abarth, Lotus 2-11 etc.. give pornographic feel through the steering wheel..

And I take it you have driven these...all personally in real life otherwise how can you comment

Fordie
Quote from sinbad :
Nothing wrong with the layouts or kerbs of Fern Bay. They are what they are, some crappy low budget poorly maintained circuits on some island in the Caribbean, perfect. Colours? Trees green, sand yellow, tarmac grey: Done

And driveable ROFL

Fordie
Quote from Fordman :And I take it you have driven these...all personally in real life otherwise how can you comment

Fordie

Nope, just like i havent driven the RB4, you?
Quote from sinbad :I'll never truly like AC until they improve the steering feel. The 458 is just so floaty feeling at low steering angles, for example, but all the cars are prone to wandering around the straight-ahead way too much..

I don't have this problem, 107% in profiler does the trick for me, AC has the best steering feel of all the top sims that I have tried (lfs, rf2, iR)
But that 107% trick for example does no work in LFS, but for AC it's a must
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Quote from kars19 :I don't have this problem, 107% in profiler does the trick for me, AC has the best steering feel of all the top sims that I have tried (lfs, rf2, iR)
But that 107% trick for example does no work in LFS, but for AC it's a must

what wheel do you have? While I got mine to work a lot better now I still get that death rattle from time to time, plus countersteering is still alot harder (often impossible) with my DFGT, while it worked flawless in LFS.

I'd really like to race some LFS tracks (AS Historic) in AC, just for comparism.
How difficult of a job is that actually, can you just convert them somehow or everything needs to be 'drawn' again?
Quote from Boris Lozac :How difficult of a job is that actually, can you just convert them somehow or everything needs to be 'drawn' again?

It's more about legality. Blackwood is the only track that's been allowed to be converted, along with demo cars. It's a lot more work as well because unlike rFactor, the LFS track format isn't known. We only have SMX meshes that don't contain all the required UV mapping information.
Quote from Boris Lozac :Nope, just like i havent driven the RB4, you?

Nope, hence why you won't get me saying about the cars feelings

Fordie
Quote from Boris Lozac :How difficult of a job is that actually, can you just convert them somehow or everything needs to be 'drawn' again?

What the **** do you care since all LFS tracks suck ass according to your massive experience around them.
That official forum is more NSA then I have ever seen before. You need to associate with Steam.. After that your Steam status is being tracked all the time and if you deassociate again, the next posting you make you get a mod on your ass from the so called Kunos Dev team that this is not how it works.

So you pay for a simulator but you have to sacrifice your private data if you want to be active on an official forum. Great this new world
Thanks,Dave,now I have even less interest to register to their forum. I already hate that Steam part about AC.
It's not the end of the world. Not like they can ruin my life with my Steam data. I associated once, can't really see the issue. Paranoia much?
Yep I don't need or want to share my contacts with people I don't know at all. Nothing to do with paranoia, just being careful. Things you share cannot be unshared.
Should I fear getting a bomb from terrorists in my mailbox from now on? Hopefully not. Anyways, Blackwood was converted to rFactor already and it looks kinda pretty, I bet it wouldn't be much to get it into AC from then on.
Quote from Eclipsed :Thanks,Dave,now I have even less interest to register to their forum. I already hate that Steam part about AC.

Why? Steam is a fantastic service. You're obviously fine with LFS requiring online activation. Steam isn't much different, especially now that they've fixed a lot of the issues with offline mode as well.

As for the forum.. you can set your Steam profile to hide literally everything from people that aren't on your friends list (or even people that aren't you) without breaking the AC connection. I don't understand the fear.
Steam is fantastic, but I don't want to link my account for it to be broadcasted at any public forum either. Good thing registering without linking is enough to read and download stuff.

Witnessing the amount of general stupidity at the AC forums, there's nothing lost in not taking part in the conversations.
Quote from dawesdust_12 :Why? Steam is a fantastic service. You're obviously fine with LFS requiring online activation.

Except it updates itself whenever it wants and you have to launch it and have it connected whenever you want to play any game. What if I don't have internet connection for some reason? I cannot access ANY of the games I have payed for,sound fair to me.

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