Great one Don :hyper:

Yes earth’s climate characteristics change over time… In a period of “a number” hundreds of thousand years, global temperature rises and falls from +XX oC το -ΧΧοC… that’s normal…
What is not normal… is the rate of that climate change in the past 100years…
And the most worrying is that the rate of the climate changes is increasing...
If that was normal, there would be ice age every 1XXX years.

Quote from Kronvall :

But the download version is better - try it.

I have already downloaded it and gone straight in my favorites
But I think it still looks a bit to dark for my taste but this is not a big deal, it is easily adjustable

It is always nice to see a crowded track.
Good one Kronvall

It looks a bit too dark on youtube maybe you could check it?

Nice drifting but you need to put more effort to camera directing and video editing to make it look more attractive… And maybe a combination of slow motion-normal speed scenes... I do not know you will figure it out

I just don’t like any video with fast forward action… it doesn’t look true even when it’s from real footage… from a 3d environment looks even worst.
Just speeding up the video doesn’t increase the sensation of speed… its not that easy to fool the viewers eyes.
It may be well made with clear camerawork and editing but that wrong fast forward feel, destroys it for me.

I suppose the video is made with a humoristic manner and that’s what that music stands for…
We are just used to see artistic-sophisticated slow motion vids from Don and these short vids are not what anyone expects.
Also I think the camera shaking was too much. I understand that it tries to give the feeling of a rooky cameraman-spectator with a cheap camera which looses focus all the time but it is excessively shown, in my opinion.

Anyway a well captured & nicely edited vid as always Don

.........:wtf2:...... ... Good point. I have never thought that way of setting a car.

You are joking… right?
This has no suspension at all...

Quote from Rajinn :

understeer? increase front psi, more toe out on the front, less camber on the front, softer front suspension, increase front downforce (does RAC have downforce?) opposite all for rear :-D

mild increments!

You suggest these ,for the front tires, in order to decrease understeer???

increase front psi (the opposite)
more toe out on the front (that’s going to give you better turn in so lets say its in the right direction but it is not going to give better traction to the front)
Less camber on the front (???? Again the opposite... unless you mean less positive -> more negative camber)
increase front downforce (Yes that’s the easy one but no, the rac does not have downforce)

RAC setup is a mess… the lack of rear antirollbar destroys that car.
There are enormous weight transfers at the rear suspension and this makes it really unstable when changing direction.
A less understeery set could be nightmare eg when making a sudden move to pass or avoid someone on the track.


!idea!

The inferno setup is made under patch U, there was no preload then and most sets had the coast setting straight to max to eliminate overseer while letting off the brake or when the car was coasting.
Now with the preload setting the differential resists more to the car’s turn.
Try to reduce the coast setting; it may help to reduce under steer in general when not pressing the throttle.

Last edited by kaynd, Mon 9 Jul 2007, 17:12.

Bob’s setups are fine.

I just made some aggressive adjustments on camber and tire pressures settings to take the maximum amount of grip in that small given time the auto X course last.

I am not setting a good time though, because my wheel is broken (dead brake pedal potentiometer) and I gave it a go with the mouse which is not the right controller especially for autoX courses…

1 This is the most driftable XRR I could get (not the most unstable, that’s an easy thing to do…)

2 Also I made now a basic drag setup for XRR (keep the throttle down before the start, you need at least half of the boost not to stall the first gear)


I am not a drifter or a drag racer but I love to take setup challenges

Yes it would be nice and more realistic for the rotors to spin but that is noticeable only if you add these fancy brake rotor textures…

As for the blur effect when the wheel is spinning fast… I cant understand why are you referring to that. LFS does not use that technique... simbin games do… and I personally find that blur effect, silly and annoyingly noticeable…

Last edited by kaynd, Mon 2 Jul 2007, 02:11.

That was funny and entertaining to watch.
keep it up

I enjoyed that video.
Nice overall action scenes even thought I am not interested in stunts or crashing compilations.

Try to avoid the excessive “speeding” on the video playback rate.
At the beginning it fitted well with the music but e.g at the 1.12-1.13 of the movie it’s too fast forward and generally the fast forward speed gives a fake feel to the car’s movement which you don’t want to have on a car action movie

Quote from Jakg :

Statistics Downstream Upstream
Line Rate 192 Kbps 448 Kbps
Noise Margin 7.9 dB 17.0 dB
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Yes that looks dodgy…
Your provider seems to synchronize the DSL connection at the wrong speed… I can’t see anything that you could do about that.
You should ask for the isp’s support.

I have this video in my collection since it was first uploaded at the lfs movies pit.
I know it is far from being perfect but it has many nice race action scenes and I love it

REQ: World
IP: 83.212.47.112 (it is not static anyway i can change it by a simple rooter reset)
DB: GREECE
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Man you give us a replay where from the beginning you start bumping and pushing the other cars and you try to look innocent?
I thought you where an experienced driver and I didn’t expect that behavior.

At the first corner of the second lap you brake too late ignoring that you have to keep only the inside line because you have to leave room for the outside car which you did not pass… I suppose you did not even look…
You where still side by side at the corner entry and you pushed him out of the track…

I know that it is difficult to steer in that situation but it is not impossible… unless you are some kind of noob… are you?

You gently decelerate (cause that locked diff you might have gives ultra understeer while braking…) and then you give a little throttle to help the car steer while increasing a bit the steering angle…
You didn’t increase not even slightly your steering angle…

Is seems like you have not set separate axis on both the wheel’s driver and the game

That’s the way I run it too with the only difference I use ~40% overall effects strength from the driver and I keep the force strength from the game at 100%
But for no reason… that’s the way I get used to..

The Logitech drivers for the momo work fine with my dfp
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/441/320&cl=gb,en

Quote from tigerboyz :

I was in a friend's truck the other week and he decided he wanted to steer left and right real fast to scare me (at about 25 mph). The truck gripped easily, and you could feel the bodyroll like it was no problem. Do this same thing in LFS, and you've got skidding tires and loads of understeer, even at those low speeds. Then again, I was using the default setups in LFS, so I don't really know what to believe.

I haven’t found such a strange behavior with any setup...

You have to give realistic inputs to have the reaction you get when you drive a real car.

You have to turn the wheel at similar speed to what you can do in a real car…
If you turn the wheel to the lock in a faster rate than what the suspension can handle then you only get loads of understeer and that’s absolutely realistic.

In a real car which has a wheel with 2 – 3.5 rotations from lock to lock you just can’t steer the wheel so fast as you can do with any pc game controller…

Nice race action nicely captured

Well done

The grip is pretty much ok… the sensation of speed isn’t and it depends on your screen size, the field of view you are using and other graphic factors… Also there is the lack of real forces your body feels when you are in a real car and blah blah…

All these have been mentioned many many many times…

The only way to feel the amount of the cars “grip” is to have a close look to the speed you are going ebery time, and on the G values you can see when pressing F9 & F10.

And simply get used with the limited data you get from your screen, your force feedback wheel and your imagination...

You must install the S2 release and simply unlock only the S1 content to have the game we are talking about now…

Last edited by kaynd, Sun 24 Jun 2007, 14:34.