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felplacerad
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Nice! (Race starts at 1:02:35).

Question: Was the game hosted on a remote server rather than on a LAN? And/or is that really 6 PPS? The car positions are not updated very smoothly (see Joni pass through the chicane here, for example).
felplacerad
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Quote from mbutcher :Sure, but that's not really a blog is it. And there are lots of other really nice posts that Scawen makes/has made in the past that could do with similar treatment to that.

Edit: Alright, it's the right idea, but I like more technical posts too similar to the one Scawen made in this thread. The 'Rockingham recreated in Live for Speed' page wasn't very technical and was written for a general audience.

Well, it's something. I'm also very interested in Scawen's progress so I used to check his posts. Some time ago I instead wrote a scraper to collect his, Victors (and Erics) posts that generates an RSS feed that I've subscribed my smartphone to.

The feed can be found here, and here's some more info about the scraper.

Edit: Sorry for being OT.
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felplacerad
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Quote from mbutcher :This stuff should be put in some sort of dev-blog. Interesting stuff, thanks Scawen.

Rockingham, recreated in Live for Speed (Mon 21 Sep 2009)
felplacerad
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Holy moly that was awesome, Imphy. Thanks for sharing.
felplacerad
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felplacerad
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Quote from Scawen :[...] it has been when the video driver has crashed. But then Windows did tell me that the driver had stopped responding and had been restarted. [...]

Yes I have seen that message too and although I didn't get that notification this time that is probably what happened. I've had this happen in Rocket League as well (which, coincidentally also runs DX9).

It seems to have become a bit worse lately, I'm not sure whether it's because of a defunct graphics card, the state of the current nVidia drivers or simply the summer temperature that causes devices to overheat.
felplacerad
S3 licensed
A crash report on this otherwise nice patch! (0.6P6)

I was riding along (spectating) another player in a multi-player race while configuring my freshly installed LFS. As I went through the options I could not remember the purpose of Display -> Drop shadows so I toggled that option off and on a few times. Doing this the screen suddenly went completely black. I still had video signal though since I could see (and move) the mouse cursor. I also still heard sound LFS appeared to be running in the "background", just without video.

I then hit shift-f4 to switch to windowed mode. As my desktop appeared LFS.exe crashed with the following report:


Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: LFS.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 57c05ec4
Fault Module Name: LFS.exe
Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 57c05ec4
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0014cf5d
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1053
Additional Information 1: 4709
Additional Information 2: 4709938665fa84e3ff99c8cbe11223bb
Additional Information 3: 926f
Additional Information 4: 926f078b8e812fa896c67b2f2eabbe20

Event viewer entry (not sure if it's of any use):

Faulting application name: LFS.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x57c05ec4
Faulting module name: LFS.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x57c05ec4
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0014cf5d
Faulting process id: 0x12c8
Faulting application start time: 0x01d1ffde6e2e0efb
Faulting application path: C:\LFS\LFS.exe
Faulting module path: C:\LFS\LFS.exe
Report Id: 3ab63792-6bd3-11e6-b925-5404a62a7af5

Not sure if this is actually caused my LFS. It could be my freshly installed Win7 -- There are information and warning messages regarding the Desktop Window Manager just a couple of seconds prior to when LFS crashed.

Attached report.wer from Windows ReportArchive.

Edit: I am not able to reproduce it by toggling the drop shadows. :\
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felplacerad
S3 licensed
Can we presume that this is solved since you are currently online at a S2 host?


[WKD] Cruise Server WE National (O) 9/47 S2 0.6N

felplacerad
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Gosh, OF COURSE -- YouTube! I was searching my drive like crazy for the other entries but apparently I'm too dense to consider the most obvious source in the world.

/kev/null, lol! Epic channel name, by the way.

At least the FBMW video is of higher quality than what you (seem to) be able to find on YT. Smile
felplacerad
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Hi there,

Vic used to put together "screenshot packs" and post them in the screenshot section back in the day but the links seem to have been removed now.

I was able to dig up some old links and mirror them:

Movie clips:

S2clip_2.zip - S2 vid - GTR cars, two laps, Blackwood
S2onboardXFRonBL.zip - S2 vid onboard XFR on Blackwood
S2clip.zip - LFS S2 trailer clip
LFS_CITY_CLASSIC.zip - LFS S1 - a lap at South City

Hires screenshot packs:

ROK_hires.zip - Pack 9 (Rockingham) (21 sep 2009)
hirespack8.zip - Pack 8 (21 dec 2006)
hirespack7.zip - Pack 7 (17 jun 2005)
hirespack6.zip - Pack 6 (2 jun 2005)
hirespack5.zip - Pack 5 (3 feb 2005)
hirespack4.zip - Pack 4 (24 dec 2004)
newfxoshots.zip - Pack 3 (3 nov 2004)
bigshots9-10-2004.zip - Pack 2 (9 oct 2004)
big.zip - Pack 1 (15 jul 2004)

Bonus:
LFS_FBMW_HIRES.zip - Scawen testing a Formula BMW (21 Dec 2007).
lfs_jaffa_2.wmv - Tristan Cliffe's LFS Jaffa Cake Challenge entry (2006-ish)

Oh lord do I keep a lot of crap.
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felplacerad
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Hi there,

Are you talking about the lfs_ai_skin-pack_s2y download link?

The url provided is hosted on HTTP (not HTTPS). So yes, technically the connection isn't "private" (enrypted). But browsers should not normally throw an error (yet).

If you, on the other hand switch the URL to HTTPS the browser will throw a warning because the domain (filer.liveforspeed.se) doesn't match the domain provided in the certificate (*.loopiasecure.com). The connection is however, still "private" (encrypted).

I've setup liveforspeed.se to use HTTPS (and HSTS) but I can't setup a _valid_ certificate for filer.liveforspeed.se because that server is kindly provided by, and managed by Loopia, our sponsor.

Personally I would feel pretty comfortable downloading this file over an unencrypted connection.
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felplacerad
S3 licensed
overtaking lapping an absolute novice in the SO chicane on the last lap, wah!
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felplacerad
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Swedish-speaking people: I've added translations for the new (mainly VR) strings. If you have any comments please let me know here (or via PM) and we'll sort it out.
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felplacerad
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Quote from Gutholz :Maybe a comment function? [...] Rating system only tells so much. [...]

Speaking of, I've never been a fan of the 5-star rating system. I n my opinion it does not provide enough granularity -- Most "decent/good" <whatever> end up with 4 or 5 stars so it can be hard to separate the good setups from the great ones.

Now I'm not a data crunching guy but I do like Steam's user review system which, if you break it down is quite simple:

- Do you recommend this game? (Yes/No).
- Optional review (/comment) box.

Rating: x% of the y user reviews for this game are positive.

Then they go crazy with allowing users to review another user's review but that's not really necessary, I guess.

Any other thoughts? Perhaps a 5 grade rating is sufficient regarding setups.

@Vic,

When looking at the car setups I rated a setup by accident. I was able to figure out how to remove my rating but perhaps a undo button could fit in there somewhere?
felplacerad
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Hey, just a small report on that the new borderless window system (specifically "borderless window (single monitor)") works great in Linux/wine.

Very handy when switching between windows/worskpaces (especially in combination with the "Sound when window is inactive" setting turned on).
felplacerad
S3 licensed
Just noticed something regarding the auto-update system (that's probably not relevant to the ongoing discussion) and figured I'd mention it:

It appears as if LFS checks for an updated version when you click on the Multiplayer screen but not when you unlock the game. And since you need to unlock LFS after an update (at least in my case going from 0.6K to 0.6M) you might need to use 2 unlocks.

ie:
  • Launch (unlocked) instance of LFS
  • Unlock the Demo
  • Go online (proceed to be prompted about the update, download, install and restart LFS)
  • Unlock the Demo a second time
In short: For a smoother experience, perhaps do an update check before opening the unlock screen.

I had 2 unlocks so I'm good but this approach would probably save some time for both the users and ScaViEr.
felplacerad
S3 licensed
No problems here, wine-1.9.6.
felplacerad
S3 licensed
May I suggest migrating these instructions to the LFS Wiki? The Wiki syntax allows for better text, image and code samples plus it's easier to collaborate while keeping the progress in-place.

(But don't look at me, I've done enough edits for a while Smile)
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felplacerad
S3 licensed
Quote from Victor :I'll probably not update it anymore, as I'm working on a html version of the remote.

( https://github.com/VictorVanV/HtmlRemote for those who are interested )

Hey that's awesome! Vo Vo Vadget!

(Dunno why the screenshot came out all weird. It's at my end though I guess so nevermind).
felplacerad
S3 licensed
Quote from MandulAA :Nice, looking forward to translate it to the Hungarian LFS Manual, so more people can read about running LFS on OSX.

Cool! I suggest waiting a few days though in case the article needs changing.
felplacerad
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Ok here we go: http://en.lfsmanual.net/wiki/Running_LFS_on_OS_X

The only issue I came across was that the functionality provided by the FFB kext is disabled once you enable FTW (clutch, separate pedals and 900 degrees rotation).

So it seems that you have to choose between proper input or FFB. Frown

jackhumbert/FreeTheWheel is a fork of the original project (Feral Interactive) and it states "Force Feedback with the LogitechForceFeedback.kext" but that binary didn't work either. At least not with my G25.
felplacerad
S3 licensed
Alternative method using WineBottler (Only GUI, no terminal):


Download WineBottler (1.8-rc4 development) from http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/
(Page is a bit cluttered, direct link: http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/combo/builds/WineBottlerCombo_1.8-rc4.dmg)

# Install WineBottler
Open the .dmg ("WineBottler Combo") and drag Wine.app to the Applications folder (Winebottler.app does not need to be installed).

# Install required DLLs with winetricks
(If not already running, launch Wine.App)
Click the Wine glass icon in the menu bar and select "Winetricks"
Check "d3dcompiler_43" and "d3dx9_43", then click "Apply"

# Download and install LFS
Download LFS from the list of mirrors here: https://www.lfs.net/downloads
Double click (or possibly right click and select "Open With" -> "Wine.app")
When prompted about "Wine.app" is an application downloaded from the internet [...]" Click "Open"

# Launch LFS
With the default options, LFS will be installed in "~/Wine\ Files/drive_c/LFS/"
The icons created on desktop ("LFS.lnk" and "LFS.desktop") does not seem to work.
Instead, open Finder and navigate to your Home Folder -> Wine Files -> drive_c -> LFS
Double click LFS.exe

# Change icon and Create shortcut
Find an icon that you like (preferably transparent), I simply chose https://www.lfs.net/favicon.ico but .PNGs will also work.
Right click the image and select "Copy Image"
Navigate to your Home Directory -> Wine Files -> drive_c -> LFS
Right click on LFS.exe and select "Get Info"
Click on the icon in the top left corner and press cmd + v to paste the image.

To create a shortcut, simply drag LFS.exe to your launchpad.

Tomorrow, or next week, I'll test with my G25/Wireless controllers and create the article.

edit: If anyone has experience using a (for example) a Logitech wheel on OS X I'd like to hear your thoughts.
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felplacerad
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Yessss, another cars we wanna see thread possibly spanning 10 years and thousands of posts. Great.

And there is no such thing as S4.

Edit: on a more serious and constructive note I suggest renaming the other thread to 'cars we wanna see in lfs' and merge this into that one.
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felplacerad
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Slow day today so I had a go at Mac OS X.

Seems to work very well but I'd be thankful if someone else could help me confirm if the following (outline) works:


tested on
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MacBook Pro Late 2013
OS X El Capitan (10.11.1)
wine-1.8

outline
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# install homebrew
ruby -e "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install)"

# make sure the homebrew repo is up-to-date
brew update
brew upgrade

# install wine and cabextract (this will take a while)
brew install wine cabextract

# install winetricks and required dlls
curl -o /usr/local/bin/winetricks https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Winetricks/winetricks/master/src/winetricks
chmod +x /usr/local/bin/winetricks
winetricks d3dcompiler_43 d3dx9_43

# download lfs
curl -O http://filer.liveforspeed.se/LFS_S3_6K_setup.exe

# install lfs
wine LFS_S3_6K_setup.exe

# launch lfs
cd ~/.wine/drive_c/LFS/
wine LFS.exe

I know that Winebottler would be an alternative method to set things up but Brew is actually really nice.

If any of you agree on this approach I'll go ahead and create an additional Wiki article (It'll be similar to the Linux article I wrote here: http://en.lfsmanual.net/wiki/Running_LFS_on_Linux).
felplacerad
S3 licensed
So that disabling FFB from within LFS solved the problem was a false positive?

Edit: Oh, I read your post too quickly. I see now that you pointed out a potential relation between the FFB setting and whether LFS was launched from a terminal or the desktop shortcut (without the 'Run in terminal' option enabled.
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