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felplacerad
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Quote from DriftingDion :im using Hotspotshield vpn
I do get "host did not recieve UDP packet at the moment"

Thanks, I thought you got it working with the VPN but then I realised it just threw another error. I suggest trying to troubleshoot this without using the VPN.

What does LFS output when you are not using the VPN?

If you're still stuck later I will be able to assist you better tonight when I'm at home and have access to LFS.
felplacerad
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Quote from troy :I can't ping master.liveforspeed.net any more either, maybe something changed there. I still get the server list though. No help I know, just wanted to let you know it's probably not a problem caused by not being able to ping it.

Exactly. That the server drops/rejects ping (ICMP) requests says nothing about the server's availability (nor the state of it's listening services).
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felplacerad
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Hi there,

Neither ping nor traceroute are reliable ways of troubleshooting TCP/UDP (I'm sure the LFS client is uses both) connections since those tools use ICMP.

The DNS/hosts config appears to be correct. I am seeing the same name resolutions as you do:

dig +short lfs.net master.lfs.net liveforspeed.net master.liveforspeed.net A
188.122.74.150
188.122.74.158
188.122.74.150
188.122.74.158

Though I don't have access to LFS at the moment so I cant check which domains the client actually tries to resolve (I think *.liveforspeed.net is deprecated).

Sounds like a firewall issue to me.

The VPN connection most likely brings up a new interface that is, contrary to you default interface, allowed to talk to the LFS services.
What kind of VPN service are you using?


Edit: Oh I misread, the VPN didn't make it work -- It just threw a different error.

Can you give us some more information about what happens in LFS when you are NOT using the VPN?
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felplacerad
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Quote from farcar :I suppose a lot of people play offline. Has enabling racers to create championships offline against the AI been considered?

This would add a lot to the game for me personally, and I'm guessing would be relatively easy to do?

I'd be interested in hearing developer's feedback on this.

I think a lot of people would expect this feature in a racing sim, and it would surely add value. But looking at the current state of AI in LFS and the fact that the main focus of this product is online racing perhaps it would be more suitable for a community member to develop this feature using (local) Insim? Sure, the controls would not be truly integrated in the UI but the button interface can be made pretty intuitive.
felplacerad
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I can't see this on lfs.net. Sounds like malware to me. Try disabling plugins / switching to safe mode / switching browser / switching computer.

Not sure how you backtracked the calls but in Chrome network tab there is an "initiator" column which shows just that. Just hover the offending script.

Edit:

Also,"bestpriceninja" yields some interesting search results:

Quote from http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/588675/browser-hijackerredirector/ :
ADWCLEANER
# AdwCleaner v5.004 - Logfile created 03/09/2015 at 09:10:50

[...]

[-] File Deleted : C:\Users\Currier\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\Local Storage\hxxp_pstatic.bestpriceninja.com_0.localstorage
[-] File Deleted : C:\Users\Currier\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\Local Storage\hxxp_pstatic.bestpriceninja.com_0.localstorage-journal
[-] File Deleted : C:\Users\Currier\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\Local Storage\hxxps_pstatic.bestpriceninja.com_0.localstorage
[-] File Deleted : C:\Users\Currier\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\Local Storage\hxxps_pstatic.bestpriceninja.com_0.localstorage-journal

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Server(s) in Scandinavia (Stockholm, Sweden) available for free.
felplacerad
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Yes, for free as in free beer.

So I posted this elsewhere but I'll create a new thread for it since it would be a shame to let this VPS go to waste.

Quote from felplacerad :I have a VPS available for a serious league/event to use.

It's located in Stockholm, Sweden.

Send me a PM with some info about your league/event if you are interested. It runs on Linux so it's unlikely I'll ever run .net applications locally, but it has "our own" insim application attached to it -- lurLFSd, if anyone remembers talk about that years ago. It has some neat features. Smile

The server(s) may be used free of charge but we'll have to leave some sponsor messages in the welcome screen/whatever. No big deal.

The server(s) will remain online but if never attended TR or just want to ping the host its xrt.liveforspeed.se / 109.74.8.167.

T

felplacerad
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Indeed, thanks mange.

That means I have a VPS available for a serious league/event to use.

It's located in Stockholm, Sweden.

Send me a PM with some info about your league/event if you are interested. It runs on Linux so it's unlikely I'll ever run .net applications locally, but it has "our own" insim application attached to it -- lurLFSd, if anyone remembers talk about that years ago. It has some neat features. Smile

The server(s) may be used free of charge but we'll have to leave some sponsor messages in the welcome screen/whatever. No big deal.

The server(s) will remain online but if never attended TR or just want to ping the host its xrt.liveforspeed.se / 109.74.8.167.

T
felplacerad
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Quote from Badcarma :didn't help at all. i have tried almost everythin i can think of.

Then try everything you can think of! Smile

Stop speculating and get some data! Play LFS with some gpu/cpu/ram monitoring tools running in the background such as MSI Afterburner or GPU-Z for GPU and the Resource Monitor (or the good old Task Manager) for CPU.

Then it might be easier to spot the bottleneck.
felplacerad
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Quote from Eclipsed :This is all I get when clicking on last post link,so there is one 302 from facebook. Not sure the meaning of it...

That's not the entire set of requests, but since this website appears to have it's cache setup properly loading a new page doesn't mean that every single resource has to be transferred again. I did a ctrl+f5 refresh before taking my screenshot, forcing a flush/refresh.

That looks normal. The 302 from facebook just means they've moved that resource for some reason.

Though, as Kid222 pointed out, if Firefox is that wonky on your computer it might be worth running through it with MBAM whatever anti-malware suite people use these days. Smile

A very nice way to manage your bookmarks, if importing/exporting is too much hassle, is to use Firefox Sync. It pushes your stuff into "the cloud" and can be retrieved by another version of FF even if you decide to wipe your entire system at some point. It also allows syncing between devices (which is in fact a very nice feature regardless of this issue).

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-set-up-firefox-sync or simple enter about:accounts into your address bar.
felplacerad
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Quote from dawesdust_12 :
Quote from Eclipsed :
Anyway - tried that F12,it shows lfs.net first and then 2 facebook and 1 apis.google.com links. What the hell? :o

LFS has FB and G+ Share buttons at the bottom of the page.

Exactly. I've switched computers so I'm now on Linux/Chromium rather than FF but here's a screenshot of the network requests so that you can compare. It's kinda hard to know exactly what to look for since the scenario that you're describing sounds a bit weird, but in my example every single request returns the status 200 (OK). What you are describing sounds like there are redirects going on so look for 301 or 302 codes. And again, remember to enable that preserve log thing.

Edit: analytics.js is blocked by an add-on.
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felplacerad
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Quote from Eclipsed :Since few days I noticed something weird - every page here reloads itself automatically right after it's loaded. Page back button always leads me to very same page after first click,only 2nd goes back to previous page. I haven't seen this bahaviour anywhere else,just here in lfs.net,so I guess it's some kind of feature here or is it just some bug at my end? Any clues?
I'm using Firefox 32.0,didn't notice it when trying with IE,but I wasn't logged in lfs.net either.

Never ever noticed something like that here. Veeery likely something going on at your end (I even tried a (portable) version of v32 to verify).

Any particular reason as to why you are running such an old version of Firefox? I'd try a fresh install of Firefox, alternatively creating a new, clean profile.

If you want to debug this I suggest using the Network tab in the Developer Tools (F12) to try to find the request that is causing the redirect. You probably want to enable persistent logs though to make sure the previous request(s) remain available.
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felplacerad
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Quote from Victor :Question :
sudo apt-get install joystick

Is that also for wheel configuration? Perhaps explicitely note that to avoid confusion? I'm seeing myself trying to install "sudo apt-get install wheel" Smile

Actually it preceding sentence said "Install the package that allows you to test, calibrate and alter the configuration of your joystick/wheel", but I changed it to "Install the package that allows you to test, calibrate and alter the configuration of your input device (joystick as well as wheel)" and boldified it a bit.
felplacerad
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Wow! Thanks for the summary and future plans! I had no idea.

"Noticed", huh? That's quite an understatement! Smile

I'd love make it more general but I need to think a second about how to organize the topics to make sense across different distros without having duplicates of common instructions.

Let's see:

Common:
What to expect
Configure a game controller (except the installation of the "joystick" package, I guess (if it's even needed in all cases).
Increase process priority
Launch LFS from a headless environment

The rest is probably distro-specific.

Perhaps crate distro-specific sub-items under the "Basic setup" topic, ie:


2 Basic setup
2.1 Debian
2.1.1 Prepare your system
...
2.2 foo
...

Hmm, tricky. Probably should try to find a similar article on the Internet and see how they've got it organized.

I was thinking about covering Arch Linux but I bet the Arch users are the one's with the least need of help with stuff like this.
felplacerad
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And oh, I forgot one important aspect: the configuration of input devices, primarily a Wheel. But I guess some people might be interested in gamepads, also.

I remember LTWheelConf but apparently that functionality has been implemented into the kernel (does anyone know what version?). If someone have setup a wheel in Linux recently I would not mind receiving some feedback on the matter.

I've got a G25 and a Xbox 360 Wireless Controller. I'll try to cover both.

Edit: Ok, my current kernel (3.16.7) had no problem identifying my G25 and wine+LFS picked it up nicely, too. Although I did not notice any force feedback before running ffcfstress (provided by the "joystick" package) to test the FF. But to be honest calling this "Force Feedback" is VERY kind -- "FORCE" seems more appropriate since the only effect I can notice is the centering spring. Is this all to be expected?

Edit: So since we're not able to use ltwheelconf anymore am I correct in assuming that ffset is the way to go for configuring gain and autocenter while range should be configured by editing /sys/module/hid_logitech/drivers/hid:logitech/*:*/range by hand? There is no one tool to rule them all? Smile
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felplacerad
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Thanks Dygear for confirming that it works. Though if I remember correctly (I rarely use OSX) Winebottler has some options when setting up an application (such as creating a "portable" package). I'll have a look and will create the wiki articles tonight.

By the way, I mentioned Bootcamp in my previous post but I now realize that it was Homebrew I was thinking of. Does Mac users even use Homebrew for Wine or does everyone use Winebottler?
Guide: How to run LFS on Linux or Mac OS X
felplacerad
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Hey guys,

So we do have a wiki article describing how to run a LFS host on Linux but on the client side the information is heavily scattered across the forum. I think it's about time we put together a nice step-by-step guide on how to get going on Linux and OS X.

For brevity, the post was cleaned up. The articles have been created and exist on the wiki:
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felplacerad
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Quote from MandulAA :The World Rallycross update is live!
Blog: https://www.dirtgame.com/uk/blog/4905
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEREZTz07Co

Oh, rally pack!

Multiplayer? Not yet:

Quote :his is just the first of our World RX packs; in the next one we’ll be adding a new track, new cars and online competitive play. Until then be sure to check out fiaworldrallycross.com for more info about this awesome motorsport.

It's not that far away, though:
Quote :Scheduled date August 2015

https://www.dirtgame.com/uk/timeline
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felplacerad
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Nice layout.

Considering the names and logos you use in server names, on skins and on facebook, though: Do you guys have any actual association with SBF and/or VGP (A competition SBF co-arranged back in 2007)?

SBF is the main body for organized motorsport in Sweden (like FIA, I guess) so having them involved here would be a kinda big deal. Smile
felplacerad
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Since a lot of users are successfully running LFS with wine I guess this is not a "generic" lfs+wine error. Perhaps if you, in addition to your hardware specifications above, provide some more detailed information about your rig it'd be easier for people to assist you:


$ cat /etc/*-release
$ uname -a
$ wine --version
$ glxinfo | grep -i "version" # Might not be relevant, but still ...

( ... And update post #1 ...)

PS: the re-calibration after "onBlur" occurs in Windows as well, IIRC.
felplacerad
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If you're feeling adventurous perhaps try adjusting the kernel timer frequency. But LFS allegedly runs at 2000 hz so I'm not really sure if that would help? Unfortunately I highly doubt you'd be able to do that in userland. Either boot options or recompilation of the kernel.

Quote from Scawen :That is the reason for LFS's high update rate of 2000 Hz in the sub-updates, which avoids the cars jumping up and down all on their own due to jumping wheels!

Edit: or 100 hz? Confused

Quote from Scawen : The LFS physics run at 100 Hz [...]

But obviously I'm basically rambling here. Perhaps MadCatX could shed some light on this.
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felplacerad
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Since you're already at the level of using strace to debug the issue this might be a bit too high-level, but still ...

Did you try (re)nicing the wine/LFS process to a negative value? Perhaps you've got some other stuff going on that steals cpu time.


$ man nice

felplacerad
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You might be able to find some useful info by running a whois query on the domain. The amount of information may be different depending on what the top level domain is (iirc .com domains provide more information that .nu domains, for example).

Where/how to issue the query also depends on what tld we're talking about, but .se domains, for example, I'd use LoopiaWHOIS, ie:

https://whois.loopia.se/liveforspeed.se
Excerpt:

state: active
domain: liveforspeed.se
holder: xxxtho2888-00001
admin-c: -
tech-c: -
billing-c: -
created: 2006-06-29
modified: 2015-05-12
expires: 2015-06-29
transferred: 2009-03-06
nserver: ns1.loopia.se
nserver: ns2.loopia.se
dnssec: signed delegation
status: ok
registrar: Loopia AB

In this example, the holder information "unfortunately" has been obfuscated ("holder: xxxtho2888-00001") by the registrar (registrar: Loopia AB).

For lfs.net (https://whois.loopia.se/lfs.net), on the other hand, we're able to find a lot more information:

Excerpt:

Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Victor van Vlaardingen
Tech Organization: Live for Speed
Tech Street: 16 Ladydown View
Tech City: Tisbury
Tech State/Province:
Tech Postal Code: SP3 6LL
Tech Country: GB
Tech Phone: +44.1747123456

You should be able to use LoopiaWHOIS for any tld.

Additionally, if the domain has a SSL certificate you might be able to find even more information by looking at it's details:

For example we can see that the certificate for example.com has been registered to Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (IANA) by DigiCert:



Edit: In Sweden, companies are required to provide their organizational number clearly on the website, which you could then use to find more information about the company (see second attachment). If a company does not provide their organizational number, or if it is at least not clear which the company is, I'd definitely consider it a dubious company and take my business elsewhere -- Obviously that might be different in other regions.
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felplacerad
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Quote from Keling :Does the co-driver sometimes just skip corners?

I don't think so. At least I never noticed.

I did however change the offset so that he reads the commands earlier. It's a bit awkward at first but I think it beats "200 - 6 left long" *flat out* "intoimmediateacuteright" *CRASH* Smile
felplacerad
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Hey TVE,

I did two courses of IKT (a year?) at uni some years ago (2007-2008 or 2008-2009). From what I can remember we did some PC hardware and networking, Web (HTML + CSS), Flash (ActionScript), video editing (Premiere) and a lot of literature studies, obviously. The practical bits very on a rather basic level, but you always learn something new, I guess. Plus if you've got more experience in an area, you have time to really dig into the nitty gritty bits of whatever you're working with.

I bet the curriculum has changed since then (I mean, who uses Flash nowadays?) If you don't know which way you're heading, use your time at uni to figure out where you wanna go. In IT, uni studies (theory) will only get you so far -- To ace any area, be it programming, server administration, creative work, whatever, you're gonna have to spend your free time to experiment and learn more. Always.

Once you find yourself spending the evenings and weekends doing something IT-related (NOT PLAYING GAMES!) there's a good chance you've found your calling.

That said, a few years down the line you may find that your "calling" changes (perhaps you did web development but suddenly realized you spent more time trying to break your own code -- Perhaps you should move into penetration testing or security then! Great news, that means it's time to learn something new!
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