Quote from Boris Lozac :

I said the pass before, not the pass from which he scored the goal, he WAS in offside before that, then pulled out of it, and then recieved that pass..

Of course I was talking about the FIRST pass, every idiot could see that at the second he was metres away from being offside... Well, maybe some couldn't, therefore needing to reinforce talking about the first one...

Quote from Boris Lozac :

He was in passive offside, but then he got out of it, and then recieved a perfectly legal pass from Fabregas, which resulted in goal..

Have you been watching a different broadcast? Iniesta passed the last defender the very moment AFTER the ball was played, that is NOT offside! This offside lie is being spread by dutch fans that can't accept their team being beaten fair and square, THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG ABOUT THAT WHOLE PLAY!

Quote from zeugnimod :

During the first pass, Iniesta was passively offside [...]

He wasn't. There are quite more than enough videos from the sideline showing him in a just legal position at the time of the passing but you can't find any of those because the FIFA hunts all the clips down like the FIA...

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Quote from JCTK :

so a wing broke off on one car, and it is right to get it off another?

Actually Dr. Marko explained the situation in an interview prior to the race: BOTH wings broke, so it was pretty clear that both drivers would have to use the old wing, but one could be fixed and Newey insisted it be raced... So they gave it to Vettel because he was the faster one in practice...

I think the whole affair(s) surrounding/within Red Bull are greatly exaggerated by the media, and fans (/aussies) acting like RBR killed their pet are no help either...

Oh, and Ferrari will bite their asses for not bringing in Alonso right away - they had the chance to get away with almost no penalty at all, but their hesitation ultimately was their huge loss...

And on a personal note: GO KOBAYASHI! Man of the race for me...

Quote from cargame.nl :

I'm hungry

If Spain really wins they will take him into protective custody, no doubt...

I'm going with Paul the Kraken...

Quote from Mazdaratie :

http://english.ruvr.ru/2010/07/08/11777974.html

I wonder how De Telegraaf would know when they don't ask him until tomorrow...

Tyre degredation isn't modeled in LfS, only wear and heat is (erroneously, but still)...

Quote from morpha :

Point taken, although with the music detached from the 3D environment (like it usually is, just a stereo source), there is no sense of immersion anyway.

I can only assume you've never tried it and are talking out of your arse... Apart from the added memory footprint - of which TDU's own was way too large to begin with - there was a difference in playback between the cheaper and the more expensive cars, windows up or down made a difference (also to the engine note) and cars that had no radio (like the Caterham) also had no music playing...

Quote from JPeace :

Well at least we are having civilised conversations now rather than agressive banter! :P

Quote from DDriver :

hi guys,

I didn't play LFS for almost a year now. Are there any news about the release date of the new tire physics + vw scirocco?

Quote from Private6 :

WHen is the scirocco finally going to be in the game. I've been waiting for almost 2 years now :s

See what happens? That's ALL YOUR fault! You jinxed it! :chairs:

Quote from Chaos :

hotmail> the thing is, that 3 times I came up with an offer for the devs, 2x they turned it down right away and the last one, the truck, they at first said yes, I've sent them a 3d model of the truck, but after some time, the guys from Buggyra started asking on the progress and after about a year of the thing being in the status "yes, it will be" it changed to "no, sorry" ... How do you think we looked like infront of the Buggyra guys?
So when we got the offer from Skoda Auto to model the Fabia RS, we did not ask the devs, we went straight to rF and made the mod in 3 weeks to a complete satisfaction of Skoda Auto... Would you have gone to the devs again after such experience and with such a deal?

So after being disappointed from playing intermediate to someone who didn't want intermediating you came to brag to us that you did another car in three weeks? If your aim is to get people thinking that you getting another "module" into an already existing and extensively developed framework compares even slightly to making and maintaining a sim from the ground up you really need a reality check... Sorry that I can't be more supportive of you...

They demoed Lamborghinis with some sort of boost/nitrous yesterday - absolute killer for me...

Quote from Becky Rose :

I only saw the replay once but i'm not so sure it's TK's fault, Prixaux moved across the track from the inside to the outside whilst TK was approaching at race speed.

Yeah, but with a flat left front tyre the car wouldn't exactly be eager to make right turns... I'd say it was just bad luck, none of them to blame really...

Quote from BenjiMC :

Did you know alan mcnish and olivier beretta are from poland?

Monaco, not Poland...

I think I know what broke the suspension: Right after the restart, the 3 was the Pug that went waaayyy over to the right on the very bumpy stuff at Tetre Rouge passing those GT2s... Lamy blew it for Bourdais and Pagenaud with his impatience to get by the slower cars...

They head Ferrari and Maserati... 'nuff said...

Quote from Sarker :

yes, it's mine, is a fusion of tororosso and brawn gp. Thank

I made this image for the contest, but I think I arrive late
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/5963/streetraceforoco.jpg


sorry for my english

WOW, seriously... :faint2:

Quote from JCTK :

and a few current IRL drivers too...
why are they all heading down under all of a sudden? (just because the merged IRL won't go to Surfers anymore...)

One, current drivers have found that you can have very much fun trying out new things... More importantly, V8SC changed the enduro-rules so that you can't pair up with your teammate, it's gotta be a guest driver... Sure you could look for young talent (which some teams do), but an international high-profile guest driver will give much more exposure, thus money...

Quote from JJ72 :

Webber could have eventually let him through, and I am sure he will because his fight was 80% over, but the point is he never had the chance to because Vettel crashed into him......for no reason whatsoever than wishful thinking.

Webber not having time to react is a lame excuse... One bump could have shifted the cars into each other, if he'd left just one meter between them he could have seen the move coming, but he rather took the risk of being the first one to be collected in case something goes wrong... Which it did...

Horner is absolutely right: both played hard ball, took unnecessary risks and as a result let their team down, hugely...

Quote from Intrepid :

Various journos have started to leak some bits and bobs about the favouritism towards Vettel in that team and it's about time Webber started acting like a man and saying "no more, you aint getting it easy".

Proof? Right, like those journalists you have none... But another conspiracy sells good, doesn't it?

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Quote from Jacko1 :

Hi most of you probably would like a very very long strip of road to see how fast you can get a car to go. Is it possible to make one?

A car's top speed is reached when the available propulsion is canceled out by the resulting drag... Do I really need to have a mind-numbingly boring and otherwise completely useless strip of road to find that out? Can you think of any challenge such a venue would provide that you can't find in a shorter version on the already existing drag strip?

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

Great race, loved seeing the 4 guys at the front running so close together. My view of the Red Bull incident is that Webber could have given Vettel more room, and it would have been smart to do so, but he also did nothing wrong. If I were the team principle I would sit the drivers down and remind them both to leave their egos at the door, the team is more important.

QFT, the lonely voice of sanity... Ultimately, the team lost out the most from their little powerplay - just when they started to get on top of their reliability issues...

Vettel wasn't on the grass, but on the white line just on the edge of the track... But that's a moot point anyway, since that didn't cause the accident... I also don't see what people read into the fuel mixtures? One car had the lead - thus massive drag - right from the start while the other found a cozy low-pressure bag behind other cars and stayed there... Is it so hard to imagine that the leading one uses more fuel in the process? So Vettel is the new Schumacher, Webber the new Coulthard and RBR the new Ferrari or are you lot maybe a bit paranoid?

Both have done wrong... Webber for provoking an accident by not moving over to the clean ideal line under braking when everyone else did, squeezing his teammate of all cars on the track! And Vettel for expecting his teammate to move over in a race for the championship...

It looked to me like the late Coulthard - technically not doing anything wrong, but provoking unnecessary accidents nonetheless, thus losing out himself big time...

Button and Hamilton showed how it's done - letting each other live when it matters so both can fight another day...

Quote from samjh :

On a related note, is it just me or do GT series racing produce the worst crashes? You rarely see firey crashes like that in open-wheelers or touring cars. GT seems to have them several times a year.

Well, now that you uttered your theory, I'd like to see something backing this up... Apart from the Corvette and the Lotus catching on fire in races in the past 30 days, which were the yearly fiery crashes you're speaking of?

Quote from Michalxo :

I am not posting very often about LFS, but I think, that Scawen _should_ tell us about time horizont, when he expects to be done all the stuff he works on...
Just like "It will be done in another 2 years." or "I assume if everything will go fine, you can expect release like in 2 months.." (or early 2009)

Yes, that's exactly how the notion of "LfS is two years overdue" started... Do you want another wave of nerd rage if we pass this next ETA date as well?

Quote from Drift King CZ :

http://www.foltyn.cz/car/lambo.htm ouch

You can say that! Was in the Paddock at the time and wondered why it was so quiet all of a sudden... Then I saw the wreck transported on a flatbed... The whole front end of the car was missing on the driver's side (as you can see on the pictures), and there wasn't even any cockpit left to speak of - the rollcage was hanging from the ceiling, nothing under it... And the flatbed left a trail of fuel through the whole paddock... It took over an hour to weld the guardrails back together... Very nasty accident...

Quote from tristancliffe :

The Plato and Muller ones are pure skill though (with only a minority of luck) - look at the finesse and timing of the steering inputs.

Eh? Since when does flooring it and letting the FWD pull the car out of the slide has anything to do with skill?