I still hate it at the end because if one team happens to get lucky and their guys are lined up bumper to bumper on a late restart, the race is basically over for the rest of the field because they can just take off and no one will catch them. Ex: Burton and Bowyer at Talladega this year

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3D printed maps!

This is awesome!

http://www.engadget.com/2012/0 ... printed-models-minecraft/

Totally useless, but still really awesome.

I'm all for whatever they need to do to eliminate two car drafting, sounds like they're headed in the right direction, but I still think at the end of the race you're going to see guys hooking up no matter what.

You scored 41/101 (40.59%).

F1 only: 5/22 (22.73%).

Non-F1: 36/79 (45.57%).

That's not too bad. Most fans did as well as you...

Did slightly better last year, missed too many Nascar ones this time around.

Speed(owned by FOX) televised her first ARCA race. It was Danica-mania.

Kurt Busch is going to be in the #51 next year, I feel so bad for that team. If he can't even drive a top level car without throwing his team under the bus, just imagine how ballistic he's going to go every race when he's in sub-par equipment.

New Ferrari and Audi cars:





Should be a really exciting year for Grand Am with the new DP's and a bunch of new entries in GT. I still can't figure out if the old prototypes can run this year or not, it looks like teams have them at the Daytona test that just happened, not sure if they will be racing with them or if everyone will have the new style by the time we get to the 24 hour race.

Edit: And Cornys, that link you have to the "new" prototypes is actually from 2008.

"40-50" is not the warmth I require if I'm travelling all the way to Florida. I want 80 and sunny all weekend.

Maybe we should get a Grand Am thread going this year, I'm really excited for the new DP's and the new cars in GT. I want to go to the 24 hour race some year, just wish it wasn't in January with the possibility of it being cold out.

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One down, just Kyle to go

Has anyone worked out how the championship would of worked out if there was no chase? It's always interesting to see

Eh, its not really that interesting to see, everyone would have raced differently if there was no Chase, so the old points are kind of useless.

All the different points scenarios are down this page a little bit though.

http://www.jayski.com/teams/chase2011.htm

Here's old points, no chase:

NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Points - Classic without the Chase: Pos) Car#-Driver, Classic Points, Behind Leader
1) #99-Carl Edwards 5193
2) #48-Jimmie Johnson 4916 -277
3) #14-Tony Stewart 4897 -296
4) #29-Kevin Harvick 4896 -297
5) #17-Matt Kenseth 4875 -318
6) #24-Jeff Gordon 4794 -399
7) #18-Kyle Busch 4713 -480
8) #39-Ryan Newman 4560 -633
9) #22-Kurt Busch 4531 -662
10) #2-Brad Keselowski 4523 -670
11) #88-Dale Earnhardt, Jr. 4422 -771
12) #4-Kasey Kahne 4382 -811
13) #33-Clint Bowyer 4363 -830
14) #11-Denny Hamlin 4318 -875
15) #43-A.J. Allmendinger 4202 -991

83 days until Daytona.

First big story of the off season, Kurt Busch is out at Penske(story). Who will replace him? Vickers? Ragan? Kligerman? I've always disliked Kurt Busch, I'm not terribly upset to see him lose another ride.

Quote from el pibe :

lol you need a special license for 4WD cars?

No, people just theoretically charge more for them in the winter because they are in high demand.

Haha, did he really do that? Was it when he was driving to the garage? My brother said he thought he was giving people the finger but I wasn't paying attention.

Edit: Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg7FXmE1Rds

Last edited by UncleBenny, Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:03.

Just like I kind of figured, it came down to whoever won the race won the title. Glad Tony pulled it off after the debris thing early and then the pit stop problems he had, he was just flying all day long. I was really worried when they started messing with fuel mileage near the end there, thought they were going to throw it away but the rain came right at the right time for him. Great season, can't wait for Daytona in a couple months.

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Anyone know of a livestream link?


Help greatly appreciated.

Can you watch RaceBuddy on nascar.com? Not sure if they restrict that by country or not, if not there's always a justin.tv stream up at race time.

Rain forecast looks iffy, they'll definitely get the race in I think but a delay or two wouldn't surprise me. Could be good for me, I was going to skip hockey today but maybe I can still play if the race gets delayed haha.

With as good as Edwards has been at Homestead the past couple years, Tony might HAVE to win on Sunday.

Quote from Cornys :

Results of today's testing session

About what expected. Should be exciting to see. I do expect alot more changes for the 500 than what there was at 'Dega. NASCAR's got this one right for once. Attempting to get rid of it is a plus.

Eh. Haven't they said this before? "Drivers will have to swap more often" and then they still push for 50 laps at a time. I hope its better when they get to Daytona, but its too bad they can't totally get rid of the tandem drafting. I think the only real solution is different bumpers for plate tracks, its just too easy to push each other with bumpers that line up that well.

It does look a little too much like a Saleen S7.



I'll take it over the old prototypes though.

I'm interested to see what comes of today's Daytona test, I REALLY hope they can get rid of the two-car drafting before the Daytona 500. Can't stand that racing.

Slightly off topic, but I'm not going to make a new thread becaue I doubt many people around here care about Grand Am. The new Daytona Prototypes are sweet looking.

I was slightly surprised the racing was as good as it was on a brand new race track. Should only get better at Phoenix as the track weathers.

This is going to be one hell of a race next Sunday, you know Stewart and Edwards are both going to be running up front all day, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see one of them win.

Except didn't Wyatt race go karts before he started sim racing anyway?

I have done two track days with my car at Watkins Glen in the past year and a half or so, and this past time my instructor was specifically telling me how shocked she was that I had only been on a real race track once before that time. Sims are not perfect in the physics department, but I knew exactly where I wanted my car to be at all times on the track and I was able to put it there. She also commented that I did a good job of staying on my own line through turns and not following the car in front of me when they would take a different(and usually wrong) line, this is something I think I definitely learned from sim racing without even really thinking about it.

Just to comment on something Intrepid said, I'm sure everyone's brains work differently, but at no time on the real track was I thinking to myself what was different being there in real life as opposed to the sim. I just don't see how that would ever even cross my mind, there's too much else going on to be thinking about a video game. In fact, I mostly learned stuff about the line at Watkins Glen in real life from the instructors that I take back to iRacing when I'm running laps in the sim.

I think Hornaday should have just kicked his ass after the race. I don't hate Kyle Busch, but if the drivers are so sick of him doing this stuff, why doesn't someone just punch him in the face? I think that would do a lot more than sitting him for a couple races at Texas last weekend.

This is really setting up to be a great battle between Stewart and Edwards, the wildcard of basically a new race track this weekend could shake things up though. Might come down to who can figure the new Phoenix configuration out first.

I haven't been on iRacing in a while but I downloaded the update earlier, I'll probably give them C6R a spin tonight since I saw it got the NTM.