Can you explain what you mean, exactly what you saw?
You are right, I spotted that this morning and fixed in my version. 
If interested, it's because I changed the way those buttons work, to allow the flashing state when an issue with your unlock code is detected. I forgot that the multiplayer screen also used that style of button.
If interested, it's because I changed the way those buttons work, to allow the flashing state when an issue with your unlock code is detected. I forgot that the multiplayer screen also used that style of button.
Yes, clicking it does instantly make all obsolete.
I think it would be better if that link led to an intermediate page, where you could choose to:
1) send your existing unlock code to your email address
2) generate a new unlock code and send to your email address
(If you don't already have a valid code then only option 2 would be available)
So you would select one option then "Send" (or maybe just clicking one of the options does the send instantly). I don't think it causes any security issue and might be helpful sometimes.
I think this is also one way to solve the current issue that refreshing the page sends another code again.
I think it would be better if that link led to an intermediate page, where you could choose to:
1) send your existing unlock code to your email address
2) generate a new unlock code and send to your email address
(If you don't already have a valid code then only option 2 would be available)
So you would select one option then "Send" (or maybe just clicking one of the options does the send instantly). I don't think it causes any security issue and might be helpful sometimes.
I think this is also one way to solve the current issue that refreshing the page sends another code again.
Good point, I didn't change that message "User name and pass confirmed" but I won't worry about that now.
I have only a vague memory of that name.
Is it common use? I assume you aren't nominating it for culling.
That is just a style choice.
LFS makes some text by combining two strings, using that format string. That is to allow LFS-created text to match the strings you manually entered.
So, if in your translation you use a space before a colon then you should have a space before the colon in this format string. If you don't put space before colon, then remove it in this string and LFS will match your style.
Off topic, I wish that I hadn't used space before colons ever, it seemed to look better with the original font. Now I prefer without but it's hard to get rid of them.
LFS makes some text by combining two strings, using that format string. That is to allow LFS-created text to match the strings you manually entered.
So, if in your translation you use a space before a colon then you should have a space before the colon in this format string. If you don't put space before colon, then remove it in this string and LFS will match your style.
Off topic, I wish that I hadn't used space before colons ever, it seemed to look better with the original font. Now I prefer without but it's hard to get rid of them.
The hotmail account appears to be the same we have had on your account since it was created. So maybe you did have it temporarily but it's so long ago you have forgotten?
But yes, you can get onto your gmail, using a 7-day wait as described here: https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/111994
Section "If you do not have access to your registered email account"
But yes, you can get onto your gmail, using a 7-day wait as described here: https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/111994
Section "If you do not have access to your registered email account"
Test Patch F15
My family members insisted that what looked like a link, in the unlock error dialogs from the master server, should actually be clickable. So now they are, and they take you to details page (or login page if you are not logged in) and when taking you to your details page they may highlight the unlock code with red, if the original message was about the unlock code.
Also more translations have been updated! Thumbs up
It's on the auto update system.
https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/110607
My family members insisted that what looked like a link, in the unlock error dialogs from the master server, should actually be clickable. So now they are, and they take you to details page (or login page if you are not logged in) and when taking you to your details page they may highlight the unlock code with red, if the original message was about the unlock code.
Also more translations have been updated! Thumbs up
It's on the auto update system.
https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/110607
F15
My family members insisted that what looked like a link, in the unlock error dialogs from the master server, should actually be clickable. So now they are, and they take you to details page (or login page if you are not logged in) and when taking you to your details page they may highlight the unlock code with red, if the original message was about the unlock code.
Also more translations have been updated!
It's on the auto update system.
My family members insisted that what looked like a link, in the unlock error dialogs from the master server, should actually be clickable. So now they are, and they take you to details page (or login page if you are not logged in) and when taking you to your details page they may highlight the unlock code with red, if the original message was about the unlock code.
Also more translations have been updated!
It's on the auto update system.
OK, InSim relay is removed from the LFS World tab Flame linked to, and from "Basic settings" tab in the hosting system.
Hi, there is a system in place for that.
Please see the first post: https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/111994
Section "If you do not have access to your registered email account"
Please see the first post: https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/111994
Section "If you do not have access to your registered email account"
Thanks for the feedback. OK, good to see the API has some use and at some point I'll try to have a look and see what it's about. I'm becoming more competent with php and database access. I don't want to work on trying to outsource it or update it at the moment. On the contrary, I'm trying to reduce workload for myself in the short term so I can get a bit more done to release this new version.
I don't know of any problem with the LFS API so it's not under threat, just wanted to know if anyone used it.
About InSim relay, I'll assume for now that might be coming to an end. If anyone knows where that is set up or information is displayed on the website, please let me know so I can perhaps comment out some code or add a message instead of some stuff describing how to use it, although you can't.
I don't know of any problem with the LFS API so it's not under threat, just wanted to know if anyone used it.
About InSim relay, I'll assume for now that might be coming to an end. If anyone knows where that is set up or information is displayed on the website, please let me know so I can perhaps comment out some code or add a message instead of some stuff describing how to use it, although you can't.
Proposed end of InSim relay
Hello programmers.
The InSim relay is currently down due to the loss of one of our small servers that hosted email, InSim relay and the Torrent support. Email is up and running again on a separate server.
My son just laughs when I mention Torrent, it seems a bit last century. Personally I think we can do without it.
About the InSim relay, as far as I understand it was never updated properly for the InSim update a few years ago (the one that allow larger packets) and Victor doesn't want to maintain it, as he has a full time job and doesn't really want to work on LFS if not necessary (why I've taken over the website development).
So it would all be down to me to keep the InSim relay maintained and running, which I could do without. I don't see a real need for it, but thought I should ask here if I am missing some important uses for it, to the extent that I should spend less time developing LFS and more time maintaining the InSim relay?
I'd also be interested to know of any of our other services that could be wound down. For instance, does anyone use the LFS API? I mean this: https://www.lfs.net/account/api [ EDIT: it's clear from replies below that this is one to keep ]
The InSim relay is currently down due to the loss of one of our small servers that hosted email, InSim relay and the Torrent support. Email is up and running again on a separate server.
My son just laughs when I mention Torrent, it seems a bit last century. Personally I think we can do without it.
About the InSim relay, as far as I understand it was never updated properly for the InSim update a few years ago (the one that allow larger packets) and Victor doesn't want to maintain it, as he has a full time job and doesn't really want to work on LFS if not necessary (why I've taken over the website development).
So it would all be down to me to keep the InSim relay maintained and running, which I could do without. I don't see a real need for it, but thought I should ask here if I am missing some important uses for it, to the extent that I should spend less time developing LFS and more time maintaining the InSim relay?
I'd also be interested to know of any of our other services that could be wound down. For instance, does anyone use the LFS API? I mean this: https://www.lfs.net/account/api [ EDIT: it's clear from replies below that this is one to keep ]
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Well it takes 1 minute to click a link, receive mail, paste into LFS.
Not really a big deal so let's not make a silly fuss over it.
Security of our community is more important than a few people having a hissy fit over it.
EDIT: This post was not referring to the vast majority of people who have made genuine comments and suggestions for improvement, that have helped lead to a better and less confusing system. Most comments have been helpful. Thanks for the feedback!
Not really a big deal so let's not make a silly fuss over it.
Security of our community is more important than a few people having a hissy fit over it.
EDIT: This post was not referring to the vast majority of people who have made genuine comments and suggestions for improvement, that have helped lead to a better and less confusing system. Most comments have been helpful. Thanks for the feedback!
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Thanks for the info. The new protection is more about accidental double clicking, it doesn't prevent against later page refreshes. I could improve it in future, for example maybe there should be an intermediate page with a little info and there you would click a confirm button. It's not an immediate priority but probably should be done at some point.
EDIT: Or what Flame suggested above while I was typing.
EDIT: Or what Flame suggested above while I was typing.
I don't know why you got locked again when F14 was installed - the unlock should be preserved.
Also don't know how you got two emails.
Anyway I've added some protection that should make that impossible or very unlikely.
Currently there is a problem with our mail server so I don't think you can receive unlock codes. I don't know why this is but I have asked Victor if he can see what's up.
EDIT: OK, it's back up again.
EDIT: OK, it's back up again.
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It should be installed in a simple named folder like C:\LFS
F14 is on the auto updater now.
So with all the updates there is quite a process now, that takes you right through what is necessary.
For example, if you have not yet set an unlock code, and you start up LFS in version F (or earlier)...
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1) Message on entry screen "A new update is available". This flashes for a few seconds. There is a button to visit the forum and another to directly download in game.
2a) Visit forum, you will see the test patch thread.
OR
2b) Click direct download, you go straight to the download screen.
OR
2c) Ignore that and click "List of Hosts", you see the download screen.
3) Install patch manually or using the auto updater.
4) Start LFS. The "Unlock LFS" or "S3 licensed" button is flashing.
5) Click the button. There is a message that you need to update your unlock code and an "external link" icon button.
6) Click the external link, you go to your details page and the option "Set a new unlock code" is in RED text so you can't miss it.
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The worst issue remaining is for totally new players, they will install LFS and it already says "A new update is available" on the entry screen, but they cannot use the auto updater.
So that means it is a high priority to release the full version.
So with all the updates there is quite a process now, that takes you right through what is necessary.
For example, if you have not yet set an unlock code, and you start up LFS in version F (or earlier)...
-----
1) Message on entry screen "A new update is available". This flashes for a few seconds. There is a button to visit the forum and another to directly download in game.
2a) Visit forum, you will see the test patch thread.
OR
2b) Click direct download, you go straight to the download screen.
OR
2c) Ignore that and click "List of Hosts", you see the download screen.
3) Install patch manually or using the auto updater.
4) Start LFS. The "Unlock LFS" or "S3 licensed" button is flashing.
5) Click the button. There is a message that you need to update your unlock code and an "external link" icon button.
6) Click the external link, you go to your details page and the option "Set a new unlock code" is in RED text so you can't miss it.
-----
The worst issue remaining is for totally new players, they will install LFS and it already says "A new update is available" on the entry screen, but they cannot use the auto updater.
So that means it is a high priority to release the full version.
Thanks for the report. I've put the whole "send another..." onto a new line now.
Ugh, thanks. 
I don't know how I've missed that up to this point.
EDIT: Maybe, instead of doing another translation update, I could simply change the title of that page to an existing translation line:
Unlock Live for Speed
EDIT2: OK, done that (attached). It does say that at first anyway, before you ever unlocked, so now it just stays the same.
I don't know how I've missed that up to this point.
EDIT: Maybe, instead of doing another translation update, I could simply change the title of that page to an existing translation line:
Unlock Live for Speed
EDIT2: OK, done that (attached). It does say that at first anyway, before you ever unlocked, so now it just stays the same.
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I've now changed the info sent to LFS entry screen so that if you have at a version from F to F13 there is a message in game "A new update is available" and it links to the Test Patch thread (no automatic download).
So any users who come along and don't already know about this, will at least be helped by the new patch more easily without searching around for information.
EDIT:
Request to translators of the languages that haven't yet been updated:
I hope to release the official patch and full version this week so if you have some time it would be great if you could update the translation. If you were up-to-date before it is only 9 new lines. Thanks!
So any users who come along and don't already know about this, will at least be helped by the new patch more easily without searching around for information.
EDIT:
Request to translators of the languages that haven't yet been updated:
I hope to release the official patch and full version this week so if you have some time it would be great if you could update the translation. If you were up-to-date before it is only 9 new lines. Thanks!
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Test Patch F14
More informative if unlock code needs to be set or is wrong
Also more helpful if license has been upgraded since the last unlock
- Info about license level and unlock code detected on entry screen
- Flashes the "Unlock" or "Licensed" button if attention is required
- An appropriate message and link is displayed on the unlock screen
- For license upgrade (when code is correct) the unlock button flashes
17 translations are now updated - thanks to all the translators
https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/110607
More informative if unlock code needs to be set or is wrong
Also more helpful if license has been upgraded since the last unlock
- Info about license level and unlock code detected on entry screen
- Flashes the "Unlock" or "Licensed" button if attention is required
- An appropriate message and link is displayed on the unlock screen
- For license upgrade (when code is correct) the unlock button flashes
17 translations are now updated - thanks to all the translators
https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/110607
F14
More informative if unlock code needs to be set or is wrong
Also more helpful if license has been upgraded since the last unlock
- Info about license level and unlock code detected on entry screen
- Flashes the "Unlock" or "Licensed" button if attention is required
- An appropriate message and link is displayed on the unlock screen
- For license upgrade (when code is correct) the unlock button flashes
17 translations are now updated - thanks to all the translators
More informative if unlock code needs to be set or is wrong
Also more helpful if license has been upgraded since the last unlock
- Info about license level and unlock code detected on entry screen
- Flashes the "Unlock" or "Licensed" button if attention is required
- An appropriate message and link is displayed on the unlock screen
- For license upgrade (when code is correct) the unlock button flashes
17 translations are now updated - thanks to all the translators
Well, I knew it was a bit of a long shot to hack the event list to show an announcement.
In a few days it will be "A new version is available" at the top of the screen, some briefly flashing text that might catch the eye and a link to the download. No doubt that will be ignored too, and people will say that they don't read text at the top of the screen. Like sticky threads in a forum, I'm always reluctant to make them sticky as it seems the best way to ensure that most people will not read them.
I've changed the new version to do a bit more subtle flashing if the user needs to go into the unlock page, and a message in there and probably a link, if they need to set an unlock code or have the wrong unlock code.
To see that they'll already need the new version. Anyway, getting the new version is a good first step.
In a few days it will be "A new version is available" at the top of the screen, some briefly flashing text that might catch the eye and a link to the download. No doubt that will be ignored too, and people will say that they don't read text at the top of the screen. Like sticky threads in a forum, I'm always reluctant to make them sticky as it seems the best way to ensure that most people will not read them.
I've changed the new version to do a bit more subtle flashing if the user needs to go into the unlock page, and a message in there and probably a link, if they need to set an unlock code or have the wrong unlock code.
To see that they'll already need the new version. Anyway, getting the new version is a good first step.
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