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Scawen
Developer
I always imagined that type of central deadzone could be set in the controller's software, though I don't think I've ever tried. It seems like a memory from the distant past. Is that not the case, or at least not convenient?

EDIT: Maybe that's only in the Logitech software, but not e.g. Microsoft? Just speculating.
https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/1721869#post1721869
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Scawen
Developer
And not only the interface, also the setup file format. Other things are already shoehorned in there. The 7th gear ratio is in a completely different position in the file, where it was queezed in to support the BF1 (I think).

So it's not an easy thing to add at this point, although it's an obvious thing to support. The larger setup file requires version support in the setup file reader, an adjustment to multiplayer packets and ability to read old MPRs with old style setups in them, etc. "Changing a number" is far from the reality. Better to do it at the same time as some other additions to the setup file.

Well that's just for interest and to explain why it's way too difficult to do right now.

My comment earlier was not in opposition to the suggestion, but about the statement that "the majority" of modern vehicles have 7 or more gears.

That statement seemed very unlikely, and I did ask if somehow this change in technology had passed me by unnoticed. I prefer suggestions to be based on reality rather than fiction.

EDIT: I think what I mean to say is I would prefer to be persuaded by calm reasoning rather than exaggeration.
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Scawen
Developer
Sure but I have my doubts that 7,8,9 speed gearboxes are fitted to the majority of modern vehicles. I'm happy to be proved wrong though.
Until then I'll just go on believing that 5 and 6 speed are the usual thing. Big grin
Scawen
Developer
Editor Patch E7:

Drag selection box:

Function to make drag box from points now available in points mode
Scale / rotate / shear axes are now hidden while making a drag box
Grey button shows drag info to avoid left buttons moving around

Typing individual values to align points:

ALT + click r/f/u numbers to set all selected points to same value
- relative values compared with last selected point not preserved

New modeller line guide:

Set up a trace then click "guide" to create a line guide
- the guide is visible in most editor modes and all views
- options to hide/show the guide or draw it open/closed

Merging subobjects:

You can now merge a subobject fully into another subobject
- this is a step towards moving a selection between subobjects
- triangles can now be transferred via an intermediate subobject

https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/106792
Scawen
Developer
Quote from dh7938726 :As majority of modern vehicles carry 7 to 8 or even 9 speeds

I'd like to see the stats that bring you to this assertion! Uhmm
Scawen
Developer
In your third screenshot, if you press the pedals, do the axes (blue and yellow) move?

If they do then you just need to assign them to the correct input.

EDIT: I see your axes are set to "con botones" - it should be 'separate'.
Scawen
Developer
Have you tried to setup according to the guide?
https://en.lfsmanual.net/wiki/Options#Controls
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Scawen
Developer
Hi, I see there were some threads in the 2023 forum section so I hope it's OK to create a thread here. If not, someone can delete it. Smile

My question is about directions, I have a vague memory that last year one of the rounds (that I didn't enter) was run in both directions around the track. Is that happening this year, or maybe not now that the two races are of unequal length?

Thanks!
Scawen
Developer
It's really not on topic as it's a completely different interface.

By the way, my own Xbox controller reports separate axes through Direct Input.

The problem you report is really a Microsoft bug.

I can't imagine that it would be easy to implement the new interface, maybe even impossible with the old compiler used for the public version. Anyway, it's a really big task and I'm 99% certain this will never be implemented into the old version of LFS.
Scawen
Developer
Nice to see a dragster approved. I have an improvement suggestion.
In version 23, I believe the engine rotation direction is wrong. For nearly all RWD cars, when you blip the throttle, the left side should lift (car rocks clockwise from driver's viewpoint as engine revs increase).
This is confirmed at least in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywDgpkWas8k

To fix: 'Object Positions' -> Rotation (from front) -> clockwise.
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