"Felipe baby stay cool we're bringing you the white visor."

Fans mudsliding & the Ice (cream?) man enjoying a red flag dessert.



Awwwh. Gotta love Malaysia.

^^^^

Exactly...Shumi just pitted and was going very fast on fresh rubber. Simple math + Lewis being what he is made Withmarsh think it was a good decision.

Where Martin fails : figuring out it was impossible to pass even with 1.7 sec per lap faster tires. Who can blame him for that...

wth is this rubber anyway. Soft compound that lasts the whole race. Great way to see different strategies... At least give em tires that only last 20 laps and are worth 2 secs per.

Quote from hyntty :

AFAIK it's about turning more vigorously that maintains a higher and more stable temperature in the tyres.

Yah that's what I thought at first but I didn't even find the actual comment to verify.

Quote from three_jump :

Yes. If you look at the stats from lap 33 on or so (Hamilton pit), you'll notice that any passing (sucessfull) manouvers are practicly not existent. Button and Kubica were set on their positions after lap 10 when everyone changed to dry tires. Having a close pack is ok, even Kubica getting a deserved 2nd, but the fact that nearly noone was even able to make a move after it was dry doesn't qualify for me as a good race. Sorry.

+1. Hamilton was catching up the Ferrari at what ? over 1sec per lap? Still unable to get close enough to make a move. Overtaking stays nearly impossible under dry conditions.

Awh come on. There are many cases on many different past GPs that show Hamilton is hard on the rears. If that has changed I have yet to see it on the onboard cams. Don't turn this around as the others having to prove he actually was hard on tyres. YOU need to prove to the others he isn't anymore.

Be neutral and LOOK & HEAR how they drive for a second.

Quote from Intrepid :

Hungary last year Hamilton was very good with his tyres, and at the next GP. It's a myth about this tyre thing. In testing Bridgestone even said Hamilton was very good at maintaining the tyre whereas Button was struggling.

I cannot find anywhere anyone from bridgestone saying that but it's interesting. Please direct me.

I think you only need to look at them driving to see its not a myth but if bridge has some data proving me wrong I'd take that. Maybe Lewis has gradually learned to nurse them while still looking very agressive

Quote from JackDaMaster :

From what I've heard the Red Bull has a thing where you can change the ride height of the car during a pitstop using something like an allan key or something, which would make it legal since the car is not under parc ferme in the race.

That's entirely legal. Ferrari has that for sure and it's not what they are talking about here.

Withmarsh says the RB6 is low in Q. A pitstop adjustable device doesn't make the car lower in Q since they can't touch the car from Q3 to race start. Only on the first pitstop.

Only thing I've read that makes sense is an auto-compensating damping circuit.

http://www.formula1journal.com/

Quote from Mustafur :

I don't know why they change the time, if your an F1 fan you will watch it regardless(only this GP and Sepang i can watch at a resonable time).

I hope that patchy rain hits more then once during the race.

Bring back the Proper melbourne weather!

3AM GP. No prob. Only friends & family giving me the wtf look when they know I wake up in the night to watch this.

Only one person around me gets it. GF gets up & watches with me. How cool.

I'm curious how much the europe tv audience numbers depend on race timing...

Quote from 5haz :

Standardising everything is not the way to good racing, yes the field may end up being close together on the time sheets (as we have seen in F1 lately), but there will be little overtaking because the cars have virtually the same charcteristics , the only way past is by force (as we have seen in the BTCC).

Hmmm. I thought it was because the current aero package produces massive grip loss when you're following a fellow racer. Sometimes I stumble on some Mazda Miata spec or other everyone-has-same-material kind of series on tv and the racing is quite something.

Same characteristics with decent mechanical/aero grip ratio = amazing racing no?

One thing I miss seeing is how the old cars were a handful to drive. I want massive power. I wanna see a driver modulate the throttle through 3 gears out of a slow corner. I want massive brakes & tires. Over-body aerodynamics severly regulated. Everything else as loose as it can be. Let the engineers be engineers. When they get to the human body limit, slow the cars down in the particular situation it reaches that limit. Not anywhere else.

"We'll show the other F1 teams that they could reduce their budgets … and have just as much fun. You don't need to spend hundreds of millions to have fun."

Have fun buddy. Just be aware there'll be a F1 race going on around your cars aight?

Quote from 5haz :

Meh, how can we ever have any interesting innovation anymore if other teams cry to the FIA every time they miss a trick? :rolleyes:

Maybe cause now it's not anymore engineers missing clever innovations. But more lawyers interpreting differently, bending words and finding holes in overcomplicated rules.

Sucks when another team shows up with something you thought of but didn't implement only cause your interpretation of the rule says its illegal.

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

Stefan denied entry for 2010.

Lopez's manager reveals that the other driver signed by USF1 was Milos Pavlovic(!?).

FIA fail.

Quote from windmouse :

thanks a lot for the input, I was able to gain few tenths

now I am losing only in the slow stuff, according to the telemetry when comparing to WR lap

now it will be driving technique mostly, but is there any way to increase the low speed and low DF grip?

Not really. AS7R being what it is it'll be hard to have a perfect car both in the hairpins and the fast parts.

WR probably goes into the slow corners in usual WR way. A lot sideways then catching it at the perfect time & place to go back hard on throttle. Pretty unrealistic and very hard to nail every single time. You can lap close to WR using a cleaner entry but if you really wanna get near WR...sideways in is pretty much the only way to do it.

• car balance, if the raceset is good. just rebalance via ARBs
  
• body roll, camber, race camber needs to focus on keeping each tire's inner-center-outer temps decent to keep the wear in check. qual camber is only about maximum cornering grip. not through optimal temp but through equal inner-center-outside tire loads while cornering.
  
• tyre pressures, in single seaters, I've always seen maximum pressure in R1 Q sets. Gives best response with less roll resistance. This probably outweighs the extra grip you get with lower pressures. No need to focus on temperatures...as long as they don't go extremely hot. Just heat up to the proper temp in your outlap.
  
• downforce, Usually ARBs can rebalance the car fine. I could see AS7R might need some DF work since it is a bunch of very fast corners and another bunch of very slow corners.
  

• optimizing inner/outer tyre pressures, I think low pressure just costs too much in rolling resistance, we are just forced to go that way to keep the tires warm at the end of their life. But for outright pace, I tend to go high pressures.
  

Focus less on temps for Q. The temp/grip graph is a 2nd degree polynomial and you need to go pretty far hot or far cold to see a big change in grip.

Quote from Greboth :

Restrict the engine to say N/A 2.5 L V8 and standard wheels/tyres but leave everything else to the teams.

I'd bet those cars on any decent tyre would be able to produce cornering forces far beyond what any human being can cope with. There HAS to be restrictions to slow the cars down.

Newey and Sam Michaels brought up 10 days ago that circuits had a lot to do with overtaking and it was maybe time to have a look that way instead of changing the cars yet again. I'm pretty sure they weren't talking about shortcuts though...

Quote from KiRmelius :

Turbo lag is much bigger IRL.

By IRL you mean "in the car you were driving with his specific engine with specific ignition timing map , specific compressor & turbine sizes & wear, specific manifold & exhaust flow, specific intake piping etc etc etc."

Right?

We have no idea how their sponsors LOVE seeing these boys give a show at the X-Games. No it's not rallying...they just call it that way but we have the real stuff here too and don't worry they are good at it.

Our multiple Canadian and North American champion did several european WRC events in Group N around 2002 and he did very well while he was still a major rally newbie at that time. Now him and Block always fight close when they compete so I guess Block shouldn't be completely ridiculous in a WRC car. Pretty sure himself knows he'll not be close to challenging Seb or Mikko...

They may not have vaginas but they're still pretty hot. New single coming out March 14.



see ??? His marketing works even on me !! And I'm far from a screaming 16 year old girl !! I'm left baffled


Just playing...

Naaaah come on.

He could have all the titles and airlines in the world it would still be a joke to buy an F1 team and hire 4 female drivers just cause they look good.
Now it seems him saying that was just part of his "sense of humor". Good for him.

Love you anyway

Yay ! Darko !

Yeah I see your point...

Kind of a i'm-a-cool-CEO driven company image. Guess I just prefer standard promotion ways and I'm not getting the humor in how his drivers looks matter.

I think what Red Bull does is amazing promotion but I don't recall Mateschitz saying silly stuff like above.

2 part article. Some stuff is redundant, some was new to me.


http://network.nationalpost.co ... nd-skepticism-part-1.aspx

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2365992

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Quote from MadCat360 :

Um, lol.

Like buying Manor totally wasn't as a result of wanting to promote his company.

Motorsport RUNS on people wanting to be on TV...

ya lol for you missing the point. ING sponsors Renault yet I haven't seen ING's boss in the garage every freakin race

Promoting a company is one thing promoting himself is something we rarely see iirc.

http://en.espnf1.com/virgin/motorsport/story/5405.html

"I wanted four female drivers but we've ended up with four of the best looking male drivers out there."

Please

I hated just seeing his face every GP last year and I hate more every time I hear from him. Sucks for Manor but I really hope they spend some years on the back of the grid so this clown can stop enjoying racing and go back to selling whatever he was selling before.

Just wanna know what most think of him and if you recall any other dudes in recent F1 history who looked to be there only for being on worldwide TV ?

The more top speed tends to be terminal speed, the more you need to shoot for peak power instead of higher revs.

In VHPA, XRG with hard track gearbox, I played only with the differential gear. Peak HP is at 5990 rpm. what I did was setting up the diff ratio until I got the quickest 0-whatever time.


To reach 120 kph the quickest you need to reach that speed at 6450 rpm
202 kph - 6286 rpm
211 kph - 6135 rpm (that is almost terminal speed)

Edit : duh... this is exactly what the advanced setup guide says. :facepalm. Well...maybe those numbers prove the point.

On tracks where the top speed is also the vehicles top speed, you would want to reach top speed at the same rpm at which the engine produces peak power. As the highest attainable speed for the track lowers in proportion to the top speed of the vehicle, you would want the engine revs to be going further and further beyond the peak power rpm.

Edit 2 : Also...what shotglass says is right considering an "infinite ratio" gearbox

Since we have to settle for one(1) fixed gear that will cover at least some amount of wheelspeed difference from the moment you get in it to the moment you reach top speed the ideal point will always be at least a liiiittle beyond peak hp.

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