Thanks cargame, will try to get a Win10 update, but it's not free now is it?

And btw I went to try one last time on the display adapter update, and windows finally found a update from the basic driver back to Intel HD, and the pc is back to normal now (no lag, 1360 p resolution etc). But I'll give win10 a try if I can find it.

Attempting Furmark Benching test now.
@Yisc this is my graphics atm :


Do you think its advisable to conduct the stress test? And if yes, what button do I press , and when do I stop the logging?

//edit
FurMark doesn't even start, oh god.


What now Yisc?

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Sun, 22 Oct 2017 08:45.

Quote from Yisc[NL] :

Yeah a powerpeak is when the voltage spikes.
I had it once in my life due to a central transformatorhome in our neighbourhood having a huge problem and therefor my pc was fried (among a few other devices in our house).
Since then I have a powerfilter installed, which takes care of these peaks in case they happen.
Maybe the guy pushed your hardware too far, which made it overheat and slowly die (of course I can only guess, only having your report to work with).

Have a go with this for a test: http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/

Before the laptop was sent for the HDD replacement, it was a normal Win8, boot through normal boot (Lenovo logo, black screen, Loading page etc). When the HDD was replaced, the service guy apparently "tuned" the laptop to "make it perform faster".

The laptop booted within 3 seconds (Press on button > Cyan Windows logo on black screen > instant to desktop). I couldn't do any F-button commands or access recovery modes/reset. Everything was quick for about 3 weeks until it started slowing down, then by the end of the 3rd week the LCD started to turn pink and die. (P.s During that time, I had to plug the laptop to an external monitor as the laptop LCD was too pink to use on. The monitor worked fine, until one day, when I booted it up, instead of the monitor showing screen, the laptop's screen showed in horrible resolution, laggy and in horrible pink.

Will test the benchmark later

Quote from Xenix74 :

@microspecv
Penalty means

+2 Seconds for every contact.

Not

-2 Seconds



When you end the race as third but you have 10 sec Penalty the programm order you as example to the 10 place.....

Hahahahhaa mate I was joking - couldn't you sense the sacarsm? Plus it eas Back to the future day

But yea, I don't see this moving any further at all if the current AI pathing remains. LFS AI needs a whole new rework of their racecraft and path generation for this penalty thing to work - and even if the AI are indeed better, I still detest this idea. Every little "rubbing is racing" contact would result in a time penalty which is really just silly and unecessary. You don't see drivers being penalised for every little contact. It becomes nitpicking after a while .

and at the end of the race you'll get enough time penalities that you'll be able to go back to the future

@Yisc

The HDD failed seperately from the LCD. They didn't fail together.
When the HDD died, I had it replaced, and the dude at the repair shop helped me "tune" my laptop. It went bloody quick and then 3 weeks later the LCD started to flash pink, and a week after that the LCD went out with the pink tint and resolution issue.

A powerpeak is when the voltage spikes right? Or is it a battery issue? I'm not exactly clear on that. And do you have a free heavy gpu-dependant game for me to run? I only have LFS atm.

Cheers

Quote from LakynVonLegendaus :

Dunno but maybe this helps.

Yup, lowering the quality helped get LFS audio back, but the graphics is still down the shitter :


LFS is extremely extremely laggy now, practically unplayable. Was getting above 130 fps in those graphics settings before the LCD failure. The HDD replacement did not affect LFS gameplay. Any clues as to what is going on?

Other problems :
Win8 interface is laggy
Cannot adjust brightness (stuck at 100% no matter what the sliders do both in tray, control panel and button)
Cannot update .NET framework (PC denies action and prompts administrator only, when my account is the bliming administrator)
Cannot update Display Driver software via internal software update (Denied access)
Youtube cannot play anything above 720p (loads infinitely)
Unable to get to boot menu or recovery mode (When power on, laptop immediately goes to a blue windows logo, then straight to "User + Loading" then desktop. All F8/F11/F10 keypress are ignored)
Unable to turn off quick boot/change boot preference (Denied access)
Sleep mode is removed from the power off button options
f.lux test shows average 30fps only

I have no clue anymore, anyone? What is dying in my laptop, apart from the new LCD and HDD? Any one of the above problems link to the lagginess I'm experiencing in LFS?

(apologies if this is slightly straying to Hardware, but both LFS and the laptop are having problems at the same time so lol)

As title says really

Load into LFS, greeted by this error on the chatbox "Sound error (Play:B -2147467259)". Everything is muted and I cannot adjust or get sound from any part of LFS. Any clues to what may be causing this?

Laptop is a Lenovo G500s. Recently had a HDD failure, swapped with a new Hard drive, LCD failure last week, just had it changed too. It was only after the LCD went into "save me" mode (i.e resolution went to 860 and PC had 11fps) that LFS had this sound error. And now this "Sound error (Play:B -2147467259)" thing won't go away.


edit:
Just attempted to get into a server, greeted with another error "No sound (Play:Z -2147467259)". LFS now is clocked at min 9 fps max 11.9 fps, this is quite horrible now... able to get 129 fps on lowest graphics before. Still on lowest graphics now.
This is what the screen option shows - it used to have a ton of resolution choices and availability of 64 bit, now I'm left with these..?


Someone told me it may be a processor failing, could it be? I swear to god I'm not going to spend money again to replace a processor; the bloody LCD and HDD setup already costs 1/3 of the laptop price..


Cheers

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Thu, 19 Oct 2017 15:38.

LFSW name: microspecv
In-game name: AA™| AOR Nova
Full team name: Air Attack Racing
Nation: Singapore

probably won't make the races, may just do quali/practice. Timezone kills me.

Rydr I'm totally chill with you man. Just caught up in the atmosphere lol

But yes.. sadly even though those suggestions may seem good in the short run, LFS and its development aren't targeting them. They are the least important, as development revolves in the racing aspect of the game. Light racks, modification capabilities are all cool, just not what is needed at the moment.
The Safety car isn't part of racing, it's part of safety within racing, not racing itself.
Don't focus on the tiny stuff and miss the big picture - roof light racks are not everything!

Modding itself may or may not come. It's something touched on-and-off, and some do think modding won't be a thing, due to the fact that LFS wants to stay realistic to real life car-to-spec ratio, and the need to keep the game user-friendly and easy pick up and play. But then I wouldn't mind modification being a thing, just needs more support.

In fact, it may (in the long run) draw crowds into cruising instead of racing, due to the "immediate attraction" affect i.e people will find more use of the light racks/modding in cruising or drifting/drag than racing, then move away from racing.
Plus, don't forget mate, devs would need to remodel the structures of the cars intended to have the light racks, and a huge rework of car physics/body physics to support modding - there's just no priority of that at current time. There is a reason previous threads of similar topic and suggestions have been talked about, and swiftly dismissed.

Think about it this way :
VWS over light rack/mod capability?
Better physics over light rack/mod capability?
More tracks over light rack/mod capability?


Cheers

if you cannot do the "point and squirt" technique efficiently, no worry. Try the blipping method (ref. Senna/Turbo cars) where you tap the throttle mid corner in a way to neutralise both understeer and oversteer. Then power out when you feel like you can. If braking, turning in and powering out instantly causes oversteer the blipping may work.

It's a racing simulator, not a cruise simulator. Cruising was an adaptation into LFS by people creating city layouts, InSim money, siren, chases etc. Racing is what LFS is about and is what it was made for.

This isn't Live for Cruise. Yes, cruising is a norm and active area in LFS, but only because no one else bothers to put in the effort to race hardcore, or even train to race. And then there's children who race, a whole different story. LFS approached the market correctly but as time goes on you get what you get with a loosely updated game.

Ah, updates! On that, when do you foresee your pretentious "ideas" implemented? I don't think the dev team are gonna focus on police sirens and grilles over racing physics and tracks in a racing simulator.

Quote from kristofferandersen :

Thought I'd maybe update this thread a bit. The journey has sadly come to an end and I won't be able to do these giveaways anymore, congrats to those that actually got a free license. For those that didn't win, its really not that much for 1 license . Save up and get one! :^)

This thread can be locked now.

Again, please read, thank you

All fast sets, for the FBM+Blackwood combo in particular, are oversteery, and we adapt our driving style to it, as that setup (or those, in context) are the quickest way round the lap. That's why I've always maintained a slight grudge with FBM at Blackwood, as it behaves slightly more unnatural and you do stuff you wouldn't normally do if driving one in real life.

For me however, my set is slightly less oversteery. I have a Alonso/Verstappen/Craig Lowndes driving style (i.e trail brake, one sharp turn and locks the steering angle in place, instead of small steering movements). This generates slight understeer on purpose. And if the understeer is getting too much I simply reduce the steering angle and boot the throttle, and you get a neutral feel on the exit.

Yes, it might be slower, but based on me, I'm only half a second or so off the WR, with this non-standard setup. Plus it's more consistent on race pace as well, just got to nurse the fronts.

Not sure if I upped my setup on LFSW, try to find it. I'm on mobile atm.


Cheers

Presenting the long awaited continuation to the series..

Albert Park Street Circuit (F1 Melbourne)

A big shoutout to my co-layoutter UnknownMaster21 (or you guys know as UM21) for assisting in this build. Crack a cold one!
A rushed push out as my laptop is on the brink, yet again. Sod it.

If I'm not wrong, this is a first for many - first fully modelled real-life FIA track, first ultra-scaled to track, and also a first good build by UM21 (jokes mate!)


The Albert Park circuit is known as one of the most technical tracks on the Formula 1 calendar- and you now in LFS will be able to drive a 90% realisitically scaled track model!

Have fun! Hope you all enjoy it. It is indeed a concrete skytrack, how else?
Also hope to see RTFR hop on this! Would be eager to see the flag drop!


Recommended vehicles
Porsche Carerra Cup (FZ5 + 28% restriction)
FOX
FBM
Every other car!
F1 + 10% restriction (due to scale issue with certain straights) [Use with caution please]



Cheers


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Last edited by MicroSpecV, Fri, 29 Sep 2017 16:16.

Quote from GreyBull [CHA] :

I think the pass is borderline but acceptable, you had a significant overlap before the contact and that is what matters.

However the replay is a perfect example that while divebombing you have to trust that the guy in front will be experienced enough to see you and not turn into you. Clearly the XFG driver was not, and erratic braking points is a very good clue for that.

Looking at his onboard you could notice the pass coming from a long distance, obviously from the mirrors, but also from the XRG's engine sound... Sound is a very big thing in racecraft, this is how you tell where your opponent is when they're in a blind spot, real life drivers say that sound is basically how they can navigate around the track in extreme wet races.

But to go back on topic, yes clearly you should watch a replay before catshing a judgement, because driver's eye view is a very deceptive thing. It's always very interesting to see drivers IRL change their opinion about an incident on the fly the first time they watch a replay. But with controversial incidents like this one you will always receive mixed opinions.

Personally I think it's barely acceptable too (sorry Lucaf )
Yes, the XFG had broke probably 20 metres too early, but the XRG was caught out and broke 20 metres too late as well. Being so far behind a misjudgement became a divebomb which subsequently became a forced overtake.

The overlap only occured after the XFG had committed and turned in. The reason why the XRG made the corner was because the XFG became a "chalk" to slow the XRG down, as per contact. If the XFG wasn't there, the XRG would have overshot by a long way.

Yes, the XFG should have seen it coming as the XRG was peeking before the braking zone, and ant capable driver would have covered parked the car in the middle or broken later.

Thus, because each driver has his own errors, I'd call it a racing incident (for the XRG divebombing and making contact, and the XFG leaving the door too open and braking a tad too early.)

I wouldn't see why the XFG would be mad, it was borderline clean. You'd had a better chance chugging down the mainstraight and passing on pure speed.