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<@> regarding: https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/2139165#post2139165 have you seen the sea cable maps? this from brasil : https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/1958814#post1958814 and this is from 2023 https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/2045099#post2045099 . Sea cables of which i believe you be using from Singapore could be a reason why. i also think they are updating some sea cables atm. not sure where exactly. and there is also a possibillity russia may have done sabotage to more cables worldwide. you should be able to see which cables are used from Asia on this map. https://www.submarinecablemap.com/

To this user, thank you, you know who you are. You provided insight and a more logical answer than I've been given so far.
At least there is some basis behind it.

Will just wait it out I guess.

Quote from Scawen :

NOTE: These users have no other issue between their computer and our servers. This currently points to BT traffic shaping as the only thing I can think of. Once again, I cannot and will not stop developing the new full version, at this time, to deal with BT traffic shaping or whatever it is that doesn't affect anyone in Europe other than BT users in the UK.

Noted. I was questioning whether it could be a wider problem than just to BT network users. Disregard this now...

Quote from Scawen :

Issue 2) You are having problems with all types of connection to LFS servers, from Singapore to the Netherlands. There is no way that this can be explained by a problem with the i3d internet connection that is working fine for most people. It's a long way between Singapore and the Netherlands and we cannot be held responsible for the behaviour of multiple internet routers around the world.
REPEAT: You are talking about a separate, unrelated issue.

I knew this from 2 years ago. I've had discussions with others that pointed to the same possibility than it is a distance related issue. However I have not moved countries nor has Singapore floated away further from NL. Notably, the unstable connections has been getting far worse in recent times, not just for me but for other users from totally different countries (i.e in large capacity servers relying heavily on mods and layout objects),

>>> timeouts, mod loading frame stutter, and long mod loading times are repetitive yet random for an unpredictable subset of user - Irregardless of their nation country, be it Turkey, Singapore, UK, France. There is a trend here of increasing destability in client connections that you are ignoring simplu because it seems, to us, that it is too much of a hassle.

Hence, I would greatly appreciate if you'd take the time to read my own thread here https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/2105295#post2105295 that's been stagnant for over a year - instead of pointing the blame on us, maybe investigate into i3D? Because they are the sole constant in this ongoing problem.

And I repeat again, having a nice updated LFS with fantastic tire model and 70 new tracks means nothing if half your userbase cannot hold a stable connection to last 60 seconds.


edit: and if its too much of a hassle to get to the bottom of, and you're choosing not to address these issues, at least say so. Leaving your community in the dark [ (cough) da Karai is waiting for your answer] is worse than taking no action.

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Fri 31 Oct 2025, 02:13.

Bump...

So.... it's been a year.
Nothing's changed :/

For general reference, https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/2138107#post2138107 since this year 2025 observations was made there.

Right, this started up again just yesterday, simultaneously with terrible master server ping (christmas tree servers again). I'm not even in the UK - so the "affecting just BT net users" is not applicable.

It's been this way since mod vehicles came out, and consistently getting worse and more frequent in nature the past year. If it's not due to the updates and also not solely BT (or any particular ISP) then it just leaves the master server provider...

.... and again, for reference to my thread.. https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/2105295#post2105295

Re-order bump

Sub-forum created for discussion on the ongoing Mod Shakedown/Mod Sunday series, founded 2024.
League information: https://www.lfs.net/leagues/798-AA-Mod-Shakedown
Last race: 11 May 2025
STATUS: Pending next season
(accurate as of 25/10/2025)

Server link - [AA] Mod Sunday
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1. Car selection requirements:
In order to improve safety the following rules would be introduced for the mods selection.
>Mod must be under 610 bhp.
>Mod must be under 2 tons.
>Mod must have slicks, road_super or road_normal tyres available.
>Bikes, trikes, vans, SUVs, trucks, busses and formulas are not acceptable.
>It is expected from the mod to be within reasonable safety. If is determined at later date that the mod is deemed unsafe, Air Attack reserves the right to cancel the round and reschedule it with different mod.

2. Format
Season 2025
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We shake things up a little bit with three freshly selected tracks: a reversed version of classic BL2R, the high-speed AS3, and the technical FE3.
The race format for every track: 10 minutes of qualifying followed by 3 races of roughly 8 minutes in duration.

In this season we'll be using F1 Point system: 10pts for 1st place, 8 for 2nd, 6 for 3rd, 5 for 4th, 4 for 5th, 3 for 6th, 2 for 7th and 1 for 8th. The pole position in qualifying is worth 1 point, while there will be no points for high climbers.

Given the experience from the previous season, this time we'll put a limit on mod horsepower. Winners will have to choose the mod with up to 450hp. We will be flexible a little bit with this limit, however, bear in mind that so far we had the best racing with mods below 300hp.

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Sat 25 Oct 2025, 08:37.

Quote from Scawen :

snip<<
He sent a couple of example links that you can try in Firefox:
These links are just as they would be accessed from LFS.

Just for reference, Singapore here. Downloaded and ran on Firefox with no error about http links.

http://game.lfs.net/eventImage.php?name=dOH2RaLx.jpg > 2s
http://mods.lfs.net/cover.php?skinId=4FF048 > 0.5s
http://competition.lfs.net/lx_skinning/ > 1s
http://competition.lfs.net/lx_skinning/uploads/LX4/325.JPG > 1s

All load snappily and quickly, no issues.

In recent weeks the mod retrieval/loading list in pits has been average, nothing spectacular but also not laggy. In regards to mods however, one thing that's noticeable as a constant is that first entry into a server heavy on mods usage - the cars take minimum 5s to load in - everything's frozen and all cars are circle dots (mod desync). Myself I haven't had the mod list lag for over a month, but when it does occur it will crap out for at least 2 days.


But what's bugging me right now (as I'm writing this reply) is that the issues with the master server is still not resolved - MP out of stash space + constant timeouts; but LFS.net and all associated pages (including in-game mod retrieval list) load just fine.


I'm getting this now when loading into servers, and entering the more active servers like TC / JAR / FF the user connection list is flickering like a Christmas tree... [edit: I'm sure if you go back a couple years, the servers were much more stable than now. This year alone it's been terrible already, far more random timeouts to random players than I remember from past years.]

.... so just to bring it up again, that my issue's still being ignored - https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/2105295#post2105295 . Since 2022 when the issue first occurred, I've changed between two ISP now and both had the same issues, occurring in greater frequency every year. Every month there are random days where LFS simply doesn't connect. C'mon, there has to be some proper answer to this that isn't just a lame blanket "your ISP / your country / EU undersea cable" reply.

It's not just me. It's plenty more people. It's not our ISP or network issue. It's probably (like you mentioned) not even due to the 0.7 update.

It's your provider that's hosting your master server and everything around it. If they're saying nothing's changed or everything's fine on their end, you're being sold a lie. Having a big nice update to LFS is cool and fantastic, but it means jack if we don't have stable connection infrastructure, irregardless if it's laggy mod retrieval or a janky master server.

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Fri 24 Oct 2025, 17:25.

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Mon 20 Oct 2025, 11:34.

Ladies and gentlemen, event will start in approx 1hr ~ from the time of this post. Event will begin with qualifying at 1900 UTC.

If you're unable to race, you can catch the live stream at https://www.twitch.tv/simbroadcasts !

Event poster updated to reflect new start time - 1900 UTC

Quote from Viperakecske :

its written Live for Speed, not Live For Speed

Thread title amended, promo poster updated

Take note event start time amended to 1900 UTC. Event poster will be updated

Take note event will be begin at 1900 UTC instead. Updated visual poster will be put up soon

I also had this issue semi-recently here https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/2118473#post2118473, and usually it is accompanied by unstable master server here https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/2105295#post2105295 . Unfortunately both problems are unsolved and there has not been a workable solution so far.

Ringed my ISP and they've reverted back repeatedly that it is not an issue on their end. Exhausted all feedback and possible solutions, so I've just put it down to LFS's host server having a meltdown for just particular nations on random occasions, that is not detectable on large scale.

For reference, when this sh*t hits the fan it usually does so for about a week or just under a week. In the meantime LFS is borderline unplayable, so I just go about life without nightly LFS sessions. Not really annoying per se, but if you hardcore cruise or race it will probably be a major turnaway.

+1

Seems like torque steer and just how wheels work with caster value. An axle will always attempt to straighten itself, hence why stunt drivers give minimal throttle input variation.

diabolical first post

Quote from Scawen :

Snip

Darn. Guess I'll use Gyazo again

DETAILED EVENT INFO: https://www.lfs.net/leagues/885/season/1316/round/5767
LEAGUE PAGE : https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/2136687#post2136687

UPDATE : EVENT WILL BEGIN AT 1900 UTC INSTEAD.

SERVER NAME: AA| MULTICLASS RACING

We at Air Attack Racing are commemorating twenty years (yes, two decades) of operations in Live for Speed!

Calling all old timers, forum lurkers and those sitting in idle, come join us at the event* to celebrate a huge milestone and perhaps meet and catch up with those you've not seen in ages, and have a dabble in the well loved FBM and GTi classes.

Thank you everybody from presently to back then in 2005 for joining us on the journey. Air Attack hopes to see you there for the event! Race will be livestreamed on https://www.twitch.tv/simbroadcasts by our wonderful friends - again, appreciated!

*Event is not on demo server, you will require S1 - S3 license. For our demo friends, we will host a separate demo event soon. Stay tuned!



... and https://i.imgur.com/5VsflrQ.jpeg for non-UK viewers

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Sun 19 Oct 2025, 17:40.

We at Air Attack Racing are commemorating twenty years of operations in Live for Speed!

UPDATE : EVENT WILL BEGIN AT 1900 UTC INSTEAD.

SERVER NAME: AA| MULTICLASS RACING

It's been a minute!

Started as a hobby by a close batch of buddies in 2005, and having developed into one of the oldest-standing teams around, we'd like to thank everybody who we had the opportunity to work with, as well as witness race alongside our drivers and team!

We look forward to see you at our event on the 19th of October at 1800 UTC, for some fun racing on Blackwood with FBM + GTi, livestreamed by www.simbroadcasts.tv .

Join the event to relive the good times, and tune into the broadcasts for coverage of the event as well as an overarching celebration in part, for Live for Speed's 22nd year running as well!

Event info can be found below!

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Sun 19 Oct 2025, 17:40.

Quote from mbutcher :

The occupants are the people driving the cars.

+4 more sitting in the virtual Simbroadcasts office having a coffee and bagel break

18 Aug 2025 - why you reduced the downforce? Car is totally undrivable now even with R1 tires... from 12000nm of force now 5440. Bruh

Quote from AndreKoso42 :

Hey man, could you make more layouts in autocross if you can...

Iirc there are a few, like Hong Kong, Lmaoring, AVUS, Sentul etc. But will see what can be done. AUX is a very small place to craft a track.

Thank you all drivers who partook in this season of Layout Racing League, hope it was a fun one. First time running the league with a spec car - perhaps not the best choice and we apologise it couldn't be more enjoyable and higher attendance nearing the season end.

Thank you also all stewards and New Dimension Racing for the management of the races and Simbroadcasts team for the handful of exciting broadcasts we had.

We will go on break till next year, with plans to reinstate the regular running of the series with well-loved cars and tracks, as well as the continued running of the annual Mini Monaco GP! Till then, thanks for your continued support and, see you all on track

And of course - to crown TAV-Suforr (suforr) , the Driver's Champion of the 2025 Layout Racing League!

RACE RAN AS NON CHAMP

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Tue 15 Jul 2025, 11:34.