Quote from Draggo :

I remember that in the old layout objects system the objects were track dependent and it was possible to "activate" more objects on a given track. The question is whether it would be possible to use both systems at the same time, old and new, to have access to selected elements of the track, such as trees, bushes, buildings, etc?

Damn. I would love to see this implemented... For us layoutters, and even more so ones like me and Michal who devote time to creating scaled and close replicas of real tracks, using 40 objects just to create a grandstand or a building object is way too much. The object limit either needs to go up, or there needs to be these "standalone" and "basic" object items like trees, tent, spectator stands or buildings, so we don't waste parts aimlessly.

Even creating Long Beach was a stretch at 2400 objects, I barely made the grid and pit start points work.


And also, side note, the current 0.25 step increment in height, rotation and length is also too limiting. Even kiddo game like Roblox has the ability of infinite X-Y-Z editor movement for individual objects, so I don't see why LFS can't do the same in the future. At least I hope it can, if not, LFS Editor is missing a huge ball here.

Servers are OK right now, thankfully! Pings are stable as before (from MRc fbm server at least)

Also, apparently some one or some thing took initiative to counter DoS voldemort server .. not sure if that'll result in anything but just thought you should be aware of that

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Last edited by MicroSpecV, Sun 23 Jan 2022, 06:19.

Quote from Scawen :

Yes, there has been a heavy and sustained attack.

Sorry, but someone wanted to spoil your fun this evening!

Currently still down, 2nd day running Master's back up. Just asking though, during the attacks, are you able to get access to your server console terminal (to the i3D master server) for a force IP swap? Or totally unable/unadvisable?

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Sat 22 Jan 2022, 09:22.

Quote from Timoonn :

Nah
I was on this server too, for many hours, we were only 3 players who survived, good pings, no time out. regular drivers doing lost of kms, normal behavior.
At the beggining of the mess many players got kicked out, tried to connect but most got errors or time out. Dunno why I was able to connect without problems and a normal 40ms ping.
After a moment, noone tried to join anymore for 2/3 hours but we continued to enjoy the server normaly.
When I disconnected, I couldnt reconnect on any servers.
Now I can connect again.

Another solo guy, again another cruiser?

Still down, if anyone's lazy to log onto to check

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SKIN RESUB FOR CARS 11 and 44
Car 11 Pixle Air Attack Racing | nikolai_01
Car 44 Pixle Air Attack Racing | guimoreira13

If attachment unavailable, https://imgur.com/a/bPLDdSd
Skin name for lfsw :
Pixleivanoob (car 11)
PixleGui2 (car 44)

Corrective work done, corners are now smooth and the underworld is filled in. Current version has been loaded in server.






Anti glitch armco added to back of T1 exit wall

Car 88 Pixle Air Attack Racing | microspecv

If attachment unavailable, https://imgur.com/a/xHy9Y1d
Skin name FA2989_PIXLENOVA

footnote*
Front number moved to lower position at nosecone for better visibility
Tcam facing number added to back of wheel arches
Side number enlarged on rear arches

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27/12/21

To add on to list of problems:
Too much aero wash/dirty air, needs to be toned down to suit the era spec of downforce levels. Feels worse than BF1 when the car itself is much simpler than it.

All this means car is a) undrivable in close proximity, b) inconsistent, c) too rear limited on grip purely on weight-derivative issue

Quote from MicroSpecV :

26/12/21

Awesome looking car, nice neutral/unloaded handling and intuitive steering. That's the good side, but I'm only around the mod forums to give critical feedback so here it is :

CAr and/or downforce value balance is messed up (just like majority of mods available).
Wing application should be adjusted so that car can be set up just like any other winged vehicle, without first understanding that the Front wing value is exponentially higher than the rear wing. At WE2 the wings are 8-20 which is pretty silly once you look at the set up.

(Edit : realised need tl;dr version - wing value should be consistent with default LFS value setting. i.e if 8-20 right now is what's right for the track, then the setup parameters should be adjusted so that it reflects something less drastic, like 11-15 or such.)

Brakes lock up far too easily, trail braking is near impossible. Front should come unweighted more gradually, as the car doesn't modulate brakes while braking straight let alone on cadence.

Peak revs/vmax/redline is inconsistent with the speedo. Might need to address that. And the engine clips on high revs, but overall sounds brilliant.

27/12/21

Great start, good engine sound and great rims and body. Looks like the earlier Ford Falcon gen 1 (we now have 2 Holdens, a Skyline and a Ford V8sc squad on the mod forum )

Things to improve on is the speed. This is way too fast, but I cannot figure out if it's the body weight and mass, or the engine that's overpowered. This ran around my scaled Gold Coast track in 1:09 while all the other V8/ATCC cars ran 1:12s/1:13s. It just goes up the gears and accelerates like no tomorrow, which his unrealistic.

Brakes are also too strong from baseline, at least for this car. V8SC have bad brakes, and at 1800 they feel strong already. Might need to change that.

Handling wise is generally ok, perhaps a tad numb on corner entry. Main issue is that ot does suffer from rear squat and tripod disease on acceleration, which makes the inside wheel spin funny. niko's car on the other hand tripods on braking and corner turn in. So yep, you'll need to get around that too.

Otherwise good job!

26/12/21

Overall excellent mod. Not sure why the rating is lower then I expected, perhaps because the brakes are weaker then most are accustomed to (but realistic). If I were to nitpick, the engine sounds a tad dull and there is perhaps a bit too much "rear steer" on loaded mid corner entry. Car feels like its going to loop. Had to put +0.3 to +0.4 rear toe in to compensate. Initial turn in is also perhaps a bit too grippy... but all tthese might just be down to tires.

26/12/21

Car's sounding awesome and the mesh poly bodykit is amazing to stare at

Front end washes out too easily. Needs tiny more low speed mechanical grip that tapers off relative to increasing speed. Otherwise it's fine, good mod!

26/12/21

Awesome looking car, nice neutral/unloaded handling and intuitive steering. That's the good side, but I'm only around the mod forums to give critical feedback so here it is :

CAr and/or downforce value balance is messed up (just like majority of mods available).
Wing application should be adjusted so that car can be set up just like any other winged vehicle, without first understanding that the Front wing value is exponentially higher than the rear wing. At WE2 the wings are 8-20 which is pretty silly once you look at the set up.

(Edit : realised need tl;dr version - wing value should be consistent with default LFS value setting. i.e if 8-20 right now is what's right for the track, then the setup parameters should be adjusted so that it reflects something less drastic, like 11-15 or such.)

Brakes lock up far too easily, trail braking is near impossible. Front should come unweighted more gradually, as the car doesn't modulate brakes while braking straight let alone on cadence.

Peak revs/vmax/redline is inconsistent with the speedo. Might need to address that. And the engine clips on high revs, but overall sounds brilliant.

26/12/2021
Rear end feels disconnected to front - either front has too much grip or the rear is too light. Car has low mechanical grip and feels just like LX6 but with 50% higher downforce on initial turn in - then everything just falls off.

Engine sounds good though.

Quote from Dmitry[RUS :

;1979057"]For such cool projects, you need to add separate objects to the editor. Tribunes, trees, fences, spectators, marshals, various pillars, etc. You can use objects with different surfaces, grass, soil)
It may be possible to add line library objects. Source from various Blackwood tracks. There is no need to overload textures and objects inside the game.
Maybe it's not that hard ..

Wat

Quote from NENE87 :

I have exactly the same question How you do this? DIstance etc... I need to release a track from Chimay

Sometimes you can overlay on the real track to check your progress... but with LFS physics and different ground speed/tire grip some corners won't align 100% perfect... for example, this is the best I've got at the moment (the red line is my track on the Wide Grid X config). *And bearing in mind I did not use this map overlay method until I had fully completed the track at 90%. I mainly relied on my eyes and onboard footage.

Quote from NENE87 :

I have exactly the same question How you do this? DIstance etc... I need to release a track from Chimay

I'd say man hours.... and patience, this (till today) took about 16 hours and I had an 8 hour session with only a dinner break in between... ended at 3am today

Quote from TFalke55 :

May I ask how you approached the layout? Did you use maps, airborne or satellite photos/orthophotos or other geodata? If so what did you use?

Tons of onboards, helicam shots of the landmarks and scenery (I call them "d.o.f objects" in relation to the draw distance), and probably combined 2 hours worth of lapping and lapping to compromise between the car handling to the track.

I've just replaced the embed video with a new one of a quali sim; changed a few corner geometrics and the lap feels even closer to irl now

After 12 hours total of work... Comparison video has been uploaded above

Still WIP, plenty to change on

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Fri 24 Dec 2021, 07:49.

Quote from By Hizli :

hello, the new version is very good, but the free servers should be shut down, it's unfair for those who pay.

To rephrase your suggestion in laymans terms,

"Hello, the new vehicle mod patch is excellent, but the free server option should be removed because not enough chads are visiting my own server and I feel robbed"

You do know that the free servers die as soon as there's no one there, which means it's only really good as a temporary service, rather than permanent subscription, right? Don't take things away from people who can't afford to chuck cash at a server host just to open a quick 5lap race with their friends overseas. There is no one-size-fits all solution here.