Adapt your driving, or your setup, or both. You can't adapt the clutch. Then again, you knew that, didn't you...
Rather than risking isolation, you could try to adapt. As an alternative to changing the tyre compound, you may investigate changes to your setups to help you get to grips with it.
I think you're right. It appears that the developers haven't got around to implement all car specific setup options yet.
For another example, just check out the micro adjustments possible for gearing. I have no doubt this will be fixed in some future patch.
For another example, just check out the micro adjustments possible for gearing. I have no doubt this will be fixed in some future patch.
The picture you've shown will not help solve your problem. Pantera is right, this is the speed between your computer and your router.
You have given no other information that would help resolving your issue. You can connect to the server apparently. How long before it disconnects? Immediately when you leave the pits? Or can you drive a few meters? Half a lap? 2 minutes? Anything?
You may have an unreliable connection to your service provider. Or there may be a problem with your computer. LFS is not likely to be the problem.
Try to systematically eliminate possible causes of unreliable connections. This can be difficult to do without knowledge of networking and network trouble-shooting.
But first, check your computer for malware. Eliminate all viruses and spywares, if you find any. Have your OS fully patched. Make sure you got the latest version of the DirectX runtime for your OS version. Install the latest drivers for graphics, audio, and network cards.
How is it now? Any better? No? Read on...
There are tools available to help you troubleshoot connection problems. 2 stock ones are ping and tracert. When I want to assert my connection with my service provider I use ping/tracert tracker tools, or just the simple command-line ping with the -t option. Run this for an hour, at least half an hour, then check the results. You should get 0% lost packets.
Doing just email or internet browsing, short network interruptions may not be noticed, but LFS requires your connection to be totally reliable.
Do you play any other online games? Are they working just fine?
I have an ADSL connection that sometimes gets unreliable when it rains or during electrical storms. In dry weather it is rock solid. Just illustrating there can be many possible sources of unreliable network connections.
Good luck
You have given no other information that would help resolving your issue. You can connect to the server apparently. How long before it disconnects? Immediately when you leave the pits? Or can you drive a few meters? Half a lap? 2 minutes? Anything?
You may have an unreliable connection to your service provider. Or there may be a problem with your computer. LFS is not likely to be the problem.
Try to systematically eliminate possible causes of unreliable connections. This can be difficult to do without knowledge of networking and network trouble-shooting.
But first, check your computer for malware. Eliminate all viruses and spywares, if you find any. Have your OS fully patched. Make sure you got the latest version of the DirectX runtime for your OS version. Install the latest drivers for graphics, audio, and network cards.
How is it now? Any better? No? Read on...
There are tools available to help you troubleshoot connection problems. 2 stock ones are ping and tracert. When I want to assert my connection with my service provider I use ping/tracert tracker tools, or just the simple command-line ping with the -t option. Run this for an hour, at least half an hour, then check the results. You should get 0% lost packets.
Doing just email or internet browsing, short network interruptions may not be noticed, but LFS requires your connection to be totally reliable.
Do you play any other online games? Are they working just fine?
I have an ADSL connection that sometimes gets unreliable when it rains or during electrical storms. In dry weather it is rock solid. Just illustrating there can be many possible sources of unreliable network connections.
Good luck
Awwright then, I'm in too.
All the patch Y changes were right up my ally. Cool, love it, keep going in this direction.
Coincidently, my old wheel gave up just when patch Y came out. Managed to absorb all patch Y changes while adjusting to the new wheel.
Well, that is for open wheelers, still struggling with tin-tops and H-shifting, but I'm getting there.
All the patch Y changes were right up my ally. Cool, love it, keep going in this direction.
Coincidently, my old wheel gave up just when patch Y came out. Managed to absorb all patch Y changes while adjusting to the new wheel.
Well, that is for open wheelers, still struggling with tin-tops and H-shifting, but I'm getting there.
Firstly, I don't think people "hate" drifters.
Secondly, If you spend some time searching this forum, you will find a stack of opinions about drifting, and the conflict between racers and drifters.
I think its safe to say that the majority of people here are racers, and some just aren't interested in having to read about drifter stuff. The racers aim is to go around the track as quickly as possible. I haven't tried it, but I've heard it said that you can't go as quick when drifting.
This is how I see it: racing is about driving as quick as possible, and drifting is about looking pretty, you know, sort of like the difference between ice speed skating and figure skating.
Secondly, If you spend some time searching this forum, you will find a stack of opinions about drifting, and the conflict between racers and drifters.
I think its safe to say that the majority of people here are racers, and some just aren't interested in having to read about drifter stuff. The racers aim is to go around the track as quickly as possible. I haven't tried it, but I've heard it said that you can't go as quick when drifting.
This is how I see it: racing is about driving as quick as possible, and drifting is about looking pretty, you know, sort of like the difference between ice speed skating and figure skating.
No no no, YOU are wrong. There IS a way to get the clutch back to orange. If you haven't been able to do it then you must be doing something wrong.
I don't know really how well the clutch is simulated, but to assume there is nothing wrong with the way you drive would make it difficult for you to improve. Its just not the kind of attitude that is conducive to learning... or to be treated with respect in forums.
Thank you AndroidXP, for making the effort to sort this out.
It appears that some drivers are exploiting car setup settings, with the consequence that their clutch may easily burn.
This was bound to happen though, seeing that you can adjust your gear ratios in impossible micro-steps.
The next logical step would be to offer a limited range of fixed gear ratios in the car setup. For some cars, you may not be able to change gear ratios at all. That'd be another good reason for a whinge & whine fest, hey
Hmm, well, yes, I can see how you can come to this conclusion, but the OP seems like a well balanced and reasonable individual on first looks, and quite likely doesn't have undesirable motivations or questionable moral attitudes... Still, unfortunate thread title, especially at this time. A bit insensitive, really.
Anyway, to get back to topic, I agree with some other posters here that there are developments going on that we don't know about. I'm sure of it.
I don't mind waiting for high quality enhancements/content. And if I have to relearn how to go quick around the track, then so be it.
I have sympathy for the crowd thats getting a bit tired of LFS. Have a break, hey. Get some sun. Make a baby. Build a house. Shut up 'n play yer guitar. Or something...
These kinds of threads get boring too, you know.
I'm sure the devs monitor developments in the car simulator/racing game scene and are well aware of the shortcomings of their own and competing products. They got their niche of the market and they'll look after it as good as they can. Which is way better than many other developers do.
As for value, for me there is no doubt that LFS is the best value piece of software I ever bought. Its given me countless hours of fun and wheel to wheel racing action. It raised a desire to learn about car setup and racing.
OP, you may have some valid points in your rant, but its all been covered before. And some of your points are just plain wrong:
Ok, so it didn't click for you and you're leaving LFS, well, bye then.
Don't burn any bridges, when GT5 has faded (as surely it will) you may want to come back.
As for value, for me there is no doubt that LFS is the best value piece of software I ever bought. Its given me countless hours of fun and wheel to wheel racing action. It raised a desire to learn about car setup and racing.
OP, you may have some valid points in your rant, but its all been covered before. And some of your points are just plain wrong:
- The devs do respect their customers
- The devs do tell whats going on, as much as is wise
- The devs are honest about their "intentions/ mentality/ strategy/ ambitions"
- The "intentions/ mentality/ strategy/ ambitions" have not been lost, they may have changed slightly, but are still there
- I know what LFS is going to be
- Plenty of racers in Australia
Ok, so it didn't click for you and you're leaving LFS, well, bye then.
Don't burn any bridges, when GT5 has faded (as surely it will) you may want to come back.
Really, who cares...
Elderado, this is a fantastic rig.
It's inspiring to see a setup like this... gives me ideas....Somewhere in the menus there is an option "AI use driver setup". Select it. Then, in the car screen, put the "race_s" setup on your car. Get out of the car screen, you should be at the pre-race screen now, where you can add AI cars. If there are any AI cars there already, delete them, then add them again. They now have your chosen setup. Then go back into the car screen and put the setup YOU want on your car. Back to the race screen and race!
Basically, they use the setup your car had when you added them. If you then change your setup they will still have the setup you had when you added them. Am I explaining this well enough?
But, WATCH OUT, this used to work in patch X, I have not conclusively tested if it still works like that in patch Y.
Anybody out there who knows for sure?
Use your preferred setup and make sure the AI use the same.
Given that the AI and you now have the same setup, you should be able to whip the pro AI. If you can't, practice until you can.
Have you tried http://setupfield.teaminferno.hu/ for setups?
What's your preferred car/track combo?
There is no one "best" setup, I guess. Everyone has their own way of going around a track and needing to feel what the car does, or is going to do. A bit (or, rather, a lot) of experimenting with different sets will uncover your preferences.
Heya, senior member here. Is there a server that where errmm, mature racers tend to go to?
Just get online and race! In your first couple of races you could move to the side of the track at the start of the race, let all the others go ahead of you. Then follow them... and weave through the accidents that you will inevitably come across. Its not that hard, you'll see.
If you cause a spill, just say sorry. Most racers are pretty forgiving, and it happens to everyone from time to time. And not every contact you have will be your fault. The attitude you're showing here will help you stay out of trouble.
Go on, do it
PS: But do watch out you're not on the brakes too late. Nobody likes getting rammed into the back.
If you cause a spill, just say sorry. Most racers are pretty forgiving, and it happens to everyone from time to time. And not every contact you have will be your fault. The attitude you're showing here will help you stay out of trouble.
Go on, do it
PS: But do watch out you're not on the brakes too late. Nobody likes getting rammed into the back.
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Download WR replays then analyse them against your own replays. Get one of the replay analyser softwares to do that. One is called "LFS Replay Analyser" I think, do a search, you'll find it. There are a few others that can read the LFS data files.
Before you can use these analysers you need to create a lap data output file (file extension escapes me now, RTM) from the replays.
Load the WR data and your best lap and get the time difference display up, you'll see clearly where you loose time. Check also the throttle and breaking inputs, gear shifts, suspension travel, steering input, etc. etc.
You can fiddle with the setup forever, but these analysis sessions tell you how the WR was driven. You may find that the WR has very different breaking points, or gets on the throttle much earlier, etc. etc. You're sure to learn something about your lines by studying this data. Regarding car settings, the "LFS Replay Analyser" will tell you most of those as well. The ones it doesn't tell you can work out yourself.
Go on, do it.
Before you can use these analysers you need to create a lap data output file (file extension escapes me now, RTM) from the replays.
Load the WR data and your best lap and get the time difference display up, you'll see clearly where you loose time. Check also the throttle and breaking inputs, gear shifts, suspension travel, steering input, etc. etc.
You can fiddle with the setup forever, but these analysis sessions tell you how the WR was driven. You may find that the WR has very different breaking points, or gets on the throttle much earlier, etc. etc. You're sure to learn something about your lines by studying this data. Regarding car settings, the "LFS Replay Analyser" will tell you most of those as well. The ones it doesn't tell you can work out yourself.
Go on, do it.
To get back to topic:
Sure there'll be growth. As far as I remember there has always been growth, and especially so when a new patch comes out.
Sure there'll be growth. As far as I remember there has always been growth, and especially so when a new patch comes out.
I don't think it will happen. Nevermind the technical problems, they could be overcome, I just don't think its part of the devs roadmap for LFS.
To me the most likely scenario is that, after S3 final, they may consider licensing the core LFS engine to some other dev team and who knows what they might do with it.
Anyway, all just speculation, innit?
To me the most likely scenario is that, after S3 final, they may consider licensing the core LFS engine to some other dev team and who knows what they might do with it.
Anyway, all just speculation, innit?
1) upgrade to S2 Beta
That would be quite enough, wouldn't it.
That would be quite enough, wouldn't it.
From time to time, I check up on a driver that has come to my attention for some reason. I look at his/her online mileage and it tells me just exactly that: The mileage they've done online !
Profound, isn't it?
Ok, seriously now, its just one of the things I look at when checking out another driver. Obviously, the online mileage tells you nothing about how quick a driver can go, but you get an idea of how familiar the driver is with ermmm, well, being online.
Profound, isn't it?
Ok, seriously now, its just one of the things I look at when checking out another driver. Obviously, the online mileage tells you nothing about how quick a driver can go, but you get an idea of how familiar the driver is with ermmm, well, being online.
Wrong, their customer base is not walking away. Some individuals are, but their customer base is growing.
Its not complete, so you can't. Everyone knows that.
Wrong again, it was old when it started. No doubt, another threat of similar nature will be started soon.
I agree with that. Its obvious, really.
To get back to topic....
LFS is my alltime favourite racing sim. No doubt about it. But...
Has anyone tried the mod V8Factor for rFactor? On the included Bathurst track? It rocks!!!
If you're interested, check out these posts on RSC:
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=300246
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=267708
LFS is my alltime favourite racing sim. No doubt about it. But...
Has anyone tried the mod V8Factor for rFactor? On the included Bathurst track? It rocks!!!
If you're interested, check out these posts on RSC:
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=300246
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=267708
LFS has survived long term, without any modding. I think LFS will remain popular because it works, modding or not. The devs will release new or updated content when its ready or when they see fit, as they will enable modding when it suits them. Fine by me.
Furthermore, the devs are listening to the community and have accommodated the wishes of the community as best as possible.
When/If modding comes, I'm sure it will be of the same high quality as the rest of LFS.
Furthermore, the devs are listening to the community and have accommodated the wishes of the community as best as possible.
When/If modding comes, I'm sure it will be of the same high quality as the rest of LFS.
No, the selection of cars is not boring to me. I've been doing it for years and there are still cars that I have never driven.
Some cars I'm more interested in than others, but that is largely dependent on which car/track combos are popular online, or some league event that I've joined.
I get the feeling the OP hasn't really dug deep enough to be able to appreciate the characteristics of each car, but then again, I wouldn't know, maybe he does it all offline.
About the "are just variations of the other cars" comment: yes, they are, aren't they, all have 4 wheels, an engine, a spot for the driver to sit, and some kind of linkage to steer the front wheels.
How about rear wheel steering? Or a hovercraft? Now, THAT would be different.
Btw, love your avatar, Hankstar.
Ok, I admit, there are silly bits in my post. Sorry....
Some cars I'm more interested in than others, but that is largely dependent on which car/track combos are popular online, or some league event that I've joined.
I get the feeling the OP hasn't really dug deep enough to be able to appreciate the characteristics of each car, but then again, I wouldn't know, maybe he does it all offline.
About the "are just variations of the other cars" comment: yes, they are, aren't they, all have 4 wheels, an engine, a spot for the driver to sit, and some kind of linkage to steer the front wheels.
How about rear wheel steering? Or a hovercraft? Now, THAT would be different.
Btw, love your avatar, Hankstar.
Ok, I admit, there are silly bits in my post. Sorry....
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