Edit: Mkay.

Last edited by DaveWS, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 21:56.

Sign me up too, cheers.

I also have the in game wheel off, with a slight view pitch. I do want that monitor / TV though...

Quote from Riders Motion :

Out of interest, why do you want the monitor to be half hiden by the steering wheel? On my older desktop computer I had lifted the wheel 6 inches just so it doesnt get in the way of the wheel.

I don't understand why a lot of people like their monitors to be so high up. I have my monitor personally right behind my wheel, on the same level of desk the wheel is clamped too. The wheel pokes into the bottom of the screen, covering part of the dashboard in the car as it should. I'd hate to be looking up at the track well above what should be the horizon.

Right.... well, my first prepubescent crush was.... Baby Spice. There, I said it, otherwise Niall would. And the manditory pic:



(Really though, the rest of the Spice gurls were mingers..)

Following that, once I'd starting to understand what attractive was, it was from the age of 11 onwards to be Rachel Stevens. I'd watch all the crappy S Club shows etc just to see her prancing about on the beach in Miami...



http://www.icr.ac.uk/everyman/rachelgetsfruity/flash.html

Yeah that's true.

Gah, thursdays are bad for me, I am racing in LFS pro series.

Quote from Intrepid :

Hopefully Bernie will convince the BBC to also cover Formula Kart Stars which is planned to be supporting the European F1 Gps in 2010, and International races in 2011. bernie still has to find someone to broadcast the footage from this year

I heard something about this last week. I was at PFi last wednesday with the loughborough kart club for an event in their pro karts, apparantly Hamilton was promoting the series you mentioned, but left about 30 mins before we arrived though.

On Topic: The new broadcasting features sound awesome.

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

Thread fail?

http://www.familycar.com/roadt ... r/Images/OldLeftFront.jpg

Almost, but the sport (I think it's called), looks glorious with the fatter tyres and larger wheel arches.

:d

Quote from Jakg :

It doesn't feel... right at all - i.e. the cars seem to be very uncommunicative, and the whole understeer thing feels weird. The tracks and cars are uninteresting, and the physics just don't feel right (i.e. the cars seem to snap way too much, and get into an uncontrollable slide - wheres the balancing? Even in a high-powered slick car it IS possible to hold a slide, albeit for a short period of time...).

I had this initially. If you have a G25 set to less than 900 degrees then the steering is speed sensitive (which is stupid TBH). You have to trick the sim by turning your wheel enough so it think's you have 900 degrees otherwise, then you will get linear steering. Try that, then let me know if it feels better.

As others have said, excellent combo, sign me up please.

Good luck with it.

I feel the quickest way to initially work out where the limit is, is to drive aggressively, let the car have it's head, and purposely push the car into corners. This way you will find the limits, exceed them, then smoothen out your driving to try and stay as close to the limit as possible without exceeding it too much or dropping below it and losing out potential time.

Thanks for the heads up, that's great news if true.

Quote from Forbin :

It's called a back torque limiting clutch (aka slipper clutch). It disengages partially under engine braking and has a similar effect as engine brake reduction on the BF1 in LFS. I have it set as loose as it will go for maximum rear end traction. If it were set tighter, I'd risk having the rear slide out on me, especially when off the throttle at high lean angles.

All MotoGP bikes and a lot of recent production sport bikes have this feature.

Is blipping the throttle under braking still necessary then? I see you do it in your (nice) lap.

Just thought I should point out, 80 meters is over optimistic into the first hairpin (I based the original distances on how it felt). 110 meters should keep you from flying off the track.

A full hotlap of 2:36.90 onboard My3id Gaming's David Williams, with commentary.

HQ Download (Recommended - 60 fps): http://files.filefront.com/ASG ... /;13062493;/fileinfo.html

LQ version: http://www.my3id.com/gaming/video/97

Full transcript:

Quote :

Hi this is David Williams, I'm going to take you around a lap of 2:36.90 in the FZ GTR at Aston Grand Prix.
You will want to have used as much curb as possible to maintain maximum exit speed from the final chicane for the start of the lap.
Keep the steering to a minimum as you build up speed heading into T1.
Stay left, shifting down into 4th gear, and aim for an early apex. It is important to avoid the inside curb if you can as it may unsettle the balance of the car. Let the car run out wide, and again keep the steering to a minimum.
Coming into this tight hairpin prepare to brake at around (Edit: 110m), while blipping the throttle to maintain stability, and get on the power early and smoothly from 2nd gear to rotate the car quickly.
Sweep across to the left of the track, and concentrate on getting good traction and exit speed from this small chicane. You will want a late apex into the first section so you can straightline the exit as much as possible.
As the car builds speed, gradually drift to the right of the track, to allow better entry into the stadium section. You will need to slow the car down while aiming for the curb on the left, and try to get back on the power as soon as you dare to maintain speed through the apex and exit.
Brake just before 50m and shift into 3rd gear into this tricky right hander. Get on the throttle smoothly and early, allowing the car to run out wide on the exit to maintain traction.
Bring the car back over to the right again as you head towards a tricky left hander, and aim to hook the inside wheels up with lots curb after making a slight lift on the throttle. Avoid the dirt on the right hand side if you can as it will hurt you in the following few corners.
Keep a tight sweeping line heading into this fast double apex left hander. Drop down a gear into 4th, and hook the car up in the camber of the road. It is important to keep a tight line through here so you may need to modulate the throttle a little.
Ride the green curbing on the right to give yourself a wide entry into the next long lefthander. This corner should be almost always completely flat out, and you will want the car to run out wide using all the track after hitting the apex.
Use minimum steering as you drive through this fast sweeping section of the lap.
Brake at around 75m into this final hairpin, changing down into 2nd. Wait for the car to settle, then get on the power as soon as you can.
Let the car drift across to the right towards the final chicane, change down into 3rd, and try and straightline across the curbs as much as you can without losing traction for the exit towards the start / finish line.
You can download this lap and others from www.lfsworld.net

Last edited by DaveWS, Fri 23 Jan 2009, 17:01.

Quote from Tezuka :

Check out the wake difference between the 2009 cars and the 2008 STR3 at race speed.

http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/ ... 3282977&postcount=205

That's interesting, and there is probably a genuine difference, but it is exaggurated by the fact that the shot of the 2008 car has the sun shining into the wake, making it look more dense than the others.

They seem to move around under the driver even more than last years cars too, as one would expect with the new regs. I'm really looking forward to the new season TBH.

My take on overtaking on the outside goes like this, excluding the switch back:

Firstly, remember that the guy on the inside is going to have to brake earlier than you to get round the corner, because he has to take a smaller, tighter radius around the inside.

This allows me to brake later than him, use all of the track on the outside, and maintain a higher speed through a larger radius than him so I get past that way.

Here is a video of 2 consecutive passes around the outside (with commentary! :razz:

Make sure you skip forward to 9 minutes in.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vde0__Lr8B0&fmt=18

The first pass I make on Dennis May as he brakes earlier than me to keep from running wide on the apex, I brake later, and come from right out wide to maintain more speed than him through the corner.

Then unfortunately in the following corner I go in too hot, and he is able to make a similar move on me again a corner later.

However, normally this kind of racing is only possible when you trust the ability of the other driver not to outbrake himself.

Last edited by DaveWS, Wed 21 Jan 2009, 12:58.

Quote from Intrepid :

yes, but that's like saying millions of kids have tried boxing or football because they played a game on the XBox. It's a totally different thing.

£40 for an indoor race is a little different than actually spending thousands racing for real. If you've tried rallying because an Xmas present rally day at silverstone doesn't mean you've actually tried rallying proper.

I disagree. You can't say hire karting is to "proper" karting what football on the xbox is to real championship football. Playing football with mates is different to playing football on a professional level, just as hire karting is different to karting in a proper championship.

Quote from Intrepid :

10,000,000 people under the age of 16
5000 kart licence holders in UK

You can guarantee though that well over a million people under the age of 16 have tried motorsport at a primitive level at some point in their lives (i.e. hire karting).

They're testing with a very high ride height, especially the Mclaren. Maybe it's for a wet setup.

The new Renault looks disgusting, especially the new front nose section. I hope the shark fins are banned, I'm suprised they are still allowed, given how much they ruin the look of the car.

The new Williams looks fantastic though.