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Dajmin
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Everyone loves Take On Me. You want proof?

You got it

So have they jsut stopped selling albums or has Morten just decided to go solo since he knows he's the only one people recognise?
Dajmin
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I imagine that's what a lot of people live like already.
And hell, apparently everyone wants a full home cockpit now, so how would that be different?

And because I can't resist...

Particle physics gives me a Hadron.

Thank you, I'm here all week. I've been here for years.
Dajmin
S2 licensed
There's plenty of weight transfer visible in other videos. I can't watch this one so I've no idea what's in it.

But race-spec cars have stiffer suspension so won't have as much visible movement. And comparing it to a niche PC sim is a waste of time, effort and bandwidth. Forza is mass-market.
Dajmin
S2 licensed
In proper "I'm a f*cking geek" tradition, I've created a public spreadsheet with the IDs on. If the OP wants to include this link for folks then feel free. I'll even accept PMs for corrections

http://spreadsheets.google.com ... ln2W2WKVA&output=html
Dajmin
S2 licensed
I'd rather finish last a thousand times than resort to using that

I did some online Dirt 2 the other day though, and was regularly getting podium finishes there, so I can't be 100% useless. I guess I just don't practice enough. Same problem I have with LFS. I get bored of running the same circuit over and over and over again just to learn the best lines, so I can't really complain when I don't perform well. I'll stick the racing line on for a while when FM3 arrives, that might help a bit.
Dajmin
S2 licensed
Quote from Greboth : Shame though Dajmin you wont be able to make it on. I don't have to worry about the time, just about actually getting it.

I'll try. Obviously if it arrives on time I'll be online. If it doesn't, I (obviously) won't.

Quote from beefyman666 :I'm trying not to laugh. Hey, it's all about the taking part that counts.

True though, I really suck. Sometimes I think it's my setups, sometimes I think it's my style. Most likely it's a combination of both. I'm still not great with analogue controls in intense situations, so when it counts (like when I'm fighting for position) my hands default to buttons and sticks either on or off
Dajmin
S2 licensed
I liked GRAW2. It's strategic enough to be interesting without being annoyingly pixel-perfect in terms of aiming and cover. Just a bit linear is all.
Dajmin
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Quote from Bose321 :Shhh! So if I watch this page with my phone, does that count as a computer?

If it counts in 1s and 0s it counts as a computer

Quote from th84 :In my time I have found that the best tool for PC testing is TVE.

ZING!
Dajmin
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Quote from Bose321 :This test is crap, it didn't work. My computer is turned off, and my laptop is on, so its fake.

Is a laptop not a computer? A "computer" being a device to compute on. A computational device, if you will
Dajmin
S2 licensed
It would be funny if it wasn't true

Maybe with auto braking and steering I might be able to keep up
Dajmin
S2 licensed
Cough
Sadly I'm supposed to be out all next weekend, last minute bit of song polishing before we hook up with the producer for album pre-production. Typical, innit?

The world is conspiring against me.
Dajmin
S2 licensed
If I'd thought about the strikes I'd have done the same thing, and just gone to my local store to collect it. I guess it's not the end of the world if it takes another couple of days to arrive. If only I could update my order...
Dajmin
S2 licensed
Quote from Greboth : Apart from the swift maybe, what suzuki would you want?

It'll be the Lapin and the Splash he wants. The sexiest of automobiles
Dajmin
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Quote from Nathan_French_14 :*cough* Other way round... :hide:

Yeah, whatever - it's been a long time Does that mean that the reason my car likes to go fast is because she's running on microscopic 13s?

Quote from danowat :127 NEW CARS = 45 NEW COMPETITION CARS + 82 NEW STREET CARS.

There's not that many cars I'm really excited about, but I think the 400+ will have a few that'll be fun to drive. I reckon I'll still enjoy the lower-spec ones more than the full on racing spec ones though.
Dajmin
S2 licensed
I didn't realise they'd stopped striking. I thought it was ongoing, since my work deliveries are still getting pissed about. However, I reckon that's a topic for another thread
Back to Forza. Yay for cheapness!
Dajmin
S2 licensed
Just the normal one. I wanted the LCE but couldn't justify the extra money for stuff I'll never use
Dajmin
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I just got an email from GAME telling me they'd dropped the price of my pre-order to £34.99. It's getting better all the time! The only way they could improve it further would be if they sent it out to me today
Dajmin
S2 licensed
Quote from Greboth : Though just thinking, if i were to buy a logo I wonder if I could then sell it on for less but sell more.

I expect there'll be an option to prevent reselling, like the editing option in FM2.

I just hope there's the option to find the maker of a skin if you see a cool one in a race. Would be a shame if you saw one you liked and couldn't find out who made it.
Dajmin
S2 licensed
I hear you. Motor City Online (when it came out, they later patched it) had a brilliant upgrading/tuning system where you had to buy parts without knowing exactly what effect they'd have. You knew more or less what you'd get (bigger wheels improved acceleration, while smaller ones gave you more speed) but it wasn't until you fixed it and got the dyno readings that your upgrades really took shape - and there was tons of room to go wrong. Parts wore out too, so you were forced to buy new bits semi-regularly. Great stuff.
Later on they patched it so it gave you a preview of the new dyno reading, and I think that spoiled the process a little. I guess it made it more casual-friendly, right enough.

It'd be nice to hear how you can screw up your car here. That said, if all they mean is upgrading your turbo without also sticking on a bigger intercooler won't have much effect, that'll be disappointing.

In terms of the Storefront, it'll be good for the more casual designer. Folks like me, who don't want to spend weeks on a single skin, placing thousands of layers (did they not say a couple of thousand layers per section this time?) to make a pixel-perfect recreation of their favourite celeb will be able to share more simple designs. I could make a Martini logo which someone else then uses to recreate some of the classic paint jobs from the rallies of yesteryear. They spend less time on the fiddly parts, I don't need to make the full thing - everyone wins!
Dajmin
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Quote from Nathan_French_14 :I believe the other starter cars are a Scion TC and a Chevrolet Areo (basically a rebadged daewoo).

The Scion, that's the one I couldn't remember. Totally forgot about the Chevy too.

Maybe I'll go for the Scion then, just to be different. It looks like a good shape for skinning too.
Dajmin
S2 licensed
I've suggested the early 30's Ford Coupe as a car I'd like to see added to LFS. High COG, loads of body roll, a nice RWD competitor for the UF1.
Dajmin
S2 licensed
I can't remember what the last starter car is. Jazz, Fiesta and..?
Course I'll also have my M3 E92 as well as the R8 V10, but I guess they don't count

And one review saying something makes it opinion, but once they all say the same thing you have to start believing there's something in it
Dajmin
S2 licensed
It doesn't help that much. I have a 360 pad set up to play LFS and it's still twitchy as hell with 90 degree wheel lock and no compensation. Throttle and brake work nicely, but the steering is always going to be far more than you need at high speeds - that tiny amount of movement translates to far more in-game.

Games like GTR2 and rFactor have a control option that scales your steering according to speed so you don't accidentally hit full lock in 0.1s, but LFS doesn't yet.
Dajmin
S2 licensed
It's not that many more than Forza 2 had though - it launched with about 310 and got a load more via DLC Still wish they'd lost the pointless Mazdaspeed Familia and stuck a 323F in it's place though.

Can't deny I'm looking forward to it though. Which starting car is everyone going for? I'm thinking mine will probably be the Fiesta, but I might choose something else just to be different
Dajmin
S2 licensed
Reviews are always subjective, they are written by human beings
And just because another game might have higher polycounts or better textures doesn't mean that people aren't going to prefer the "lesser" one. Maybe they rated the graphics as 9.5 because of the frame rate or the environments rather than the raw appearance of the car models or textures. You never know what's going through people's minds when they judge something.

You have to remember that hardcore sims like LFS and iRacing are still a serious niche market, and most people - particularly console gamers - aren't going to know anything about them. So why should a reviewer consider that tiny fraction of the population in a review when nobody else will care? It's a waste of time.

Being pedantic just because you happen to know a lot about that area is silly. In the same way that a veteran soldier won't slag off Arma or Op Flashpoint because despite the "sim" name it's still not actually like real war. Or a guitar virtuoso mocking rhythm games because it's not actually like playing a real instrument. It's accepted that a simulation of any kind is a software alternative, not a 100% accurate recreation.

Only hardcore geeks are going to sit down and compare (for example) the realism of the clutch across a load of games. Hell, even I don't care that much, and I'm a fan of the genre. Fun has to be the primary goal.
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