Quote from Linsen :

Can't really say who's the best, but the video I enjoyed the most of all I've seen was probably from S1 and unfortunately I don't have it anymore . Maybe somebody here remembers this rather artsy video which had some 360 degree drifting in it (XRT), a lot of b/w (or all b/w?) and the music was Col from Morcheeba? I don't remember who made it, but I'd be really grateful if somebody still has it and could upload it as I'd love to see it again. It put you in a really sentimental mood ...

I remember that one, it was Lajoosh I think (or a couple more oooo-s ), try pm-ing him.

Quote from Boris Lozac :

Ok, so 90 % of the people here are having that same problem as i am... but you seem to neglect it, like it's no big deal...

90% percent of people here is what, like 15? (considering multiple posts). how many people race lfs on a daily basis? like 1000? I wouldn't call this thread representative

also most of the posts were telling about several applications running in the background, even downloading stg in the background, which I find ridiculous. If you want to play online, close everything except your firewall, everything takes up a little cpu time, a little bandwidth, whatever. you are also messing up other people's races, who cared enough to shut down unnecessary applications.

the only things running besides lfs for me are a firewall and the antivirus software, which has autoscan turned off of course

the only thing bothering me is like mentioned above, when someone is connecting you cannot enter/exit pits, which is annoying as it is usually associated with a lag as well and takes like 5-10 seconds. otherwise LFS's online play is flawless for me.

also, turn on compressed skins, might help reduce stutters.

Quote from Slopi :

I like where this is going. Though I have to ask, why couldn't the devs simply take from your idea and build it into the game? You would have to maybe sign up to be licensed. Also, servers could run the option of licensing or no licensing.

I suppose that belongs on the suggested improvement thread... But would be it difficult for the devs to put the system in LFS?

there was something similar to this back in S1, namely the credits.

however it was nowhere near as complex and relatively hard to achieve to drive your chosen car as the stcc system, and of course you could get credits for offline racing as well.

the concept is similar, but the stcc system serves the purpose much better.

Quote from Hyperactive :

I remember seeing once in some finnish magazine a test like this (not a serious one). They just took some old tire, attached a big-ass compressor and started pumping. Well, the big-ass compressor could just do about 7 bar pressure and it wasn't enough. Even with some knife action didn't do it so they had to cut it even more to make the tire to fail.

well I am waiting for other replies on this issue, but based on this experiment, max pressure is not that unrealistic (anymore, remember S1?), as it reduces grip considerably.

Quote from frokki :

Good post, mpn89!

I am one of those who qualifys with 1.4 bar and races with 2.4
What's the main reason why unrealistically low or high tyre pressures actually work in LFS?

I would say what was mentioned before already: no tyre sidewall damage.

until that is simulated there will be no reason not to run low pressures to achieve maximum grip.

to be honest I don't think LFS tyre heat model is (that much) off, it is just the sidewall damage simulation that is lacking, which results in these unrealistic pressures. I am always trying to get optimum tyre temperatures across the surface of the tyre, but with camber changes you cannot achieve that as the pressures are way too low, even when using 1.9-2.0 bars the outside and the middle of the tyre are almost even, whereas the inside is a lot hotter, I guess 2.3-4 would do ok for street cars (TBO class especially), but that would reduce grip significantly and would make you really slow, and would take 5-6 or even more laps to get the tyres to optimum temps.

edit: on the high tyre pressure thing: I only saw that with the fox and on oval setups. the fox has downforce and it is easy to drive, however those high tyre pressures do result in very nervous handling. on the oval it is simple: higher pressures=less rolling resistance, thus higher top speed and that is what's needed for ovals.

I dunno but would too high pressures result in the tyre exploding, due to creating too much pressure inside? then it is another thing left to be simulated so it can be avoided

Last edited by csurdongulos, Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:39.

Quote from danowat :

Because at the moment it doesnt, would be nice if it did

this only makes sense if you are driving like 400-500 km-s, but for the general pick-up racer or non masters of endurance league racer this is of no importance.

and did anyone at all try racing for 6 hours or more twice, with different tyre pressures to see if it was already implemented?

Quote from Becky Rose :

FYI regarding the discussion above, I just checked bandwidth figures for the first two days since the footage went live and we shifted just over 1 terrabyte in the first two days. This is from the site which hosts only the movie files and a single, tiny, webpage used during the event with some live timing stuff on in the first heat.

meaning how many downloads then? and did the interest grow compared to the previous rounds, or you cannot decide due to the various mirror sites?

Quote from Becky Rose :

I have a RAID-0 array, all my drivers work together in theory - half the data is written to one drive, the other half to the other. In theory it's double speed hard disk access, so I cant imagine that is the problem.

well I am not into this RAID stuff, so I wouldn't know, but maybe someone does if this is a problem or not, we'll see.

Quote from Becky Rose :

I have experimented trying to get 32bit again though, and that's a definate no no for now, my computer just can't do it.

is the game folder and the raw avi destination folder on a different physical disc? I heard that this would also cause lower fps, I just thought maybe this could be the reason why you cannot capture in 32bit mode.

anways, the broadcast is great as always, and even better 'cause now I featured on it as well when you said you wonder what I would be up to in an fxo, perhaps even lapping half of the field was funny

Quote from Dajmin :

Isn't our sun set to burn out in about 12,000 years?

it's supposed to be a lot more than that: http://ask.yahoo.com/20040121.html

Quote from tristancliffe :

Whoops. Was originally going to write 'Trust me, you are (you're) not in a position to know if it's butchered because you don't know any better', but changed at the last minute, but left the 'you're' in place. My bad.

I thought so but hey, it is funny when someone is bashing someone and then makes a similar mistake, isn't it?

Quote from tristancliffe :

Trust me, you're English is butchered.

and trust me, your spelling sucks

Quote from banshee56 :

Site: Inferno, without a doubt. The first place to go for base setups. What I would like to see changed though, is a classification for setups, whether they are hotlap setups or race setups. I don't do hotlaps, so I generally need setups that can last for more than a few laps. I can adjust the ones I get from there, but it would be good to have a place to re-upload race-length tweaked sets.

thanks for the votes everyone.

I'd like to point out that there is a search function on the setupfield, with which you can search for keywords (what else? ), entering race or long or similar words will pop up a couple of results.

when uploading a setup, the uploader can decide whether it is a race, a hotlap a drag a drift or a whatever setup, although this is not always used.
You are right that a one button categorisation would be a good feature, but as long as the uploaders don't select the appropriate setup definition this isn't of much use, so the best for you would be to use the search function.

As always, suggestions are welcome, drop a post in our forums or write an email to me (csur at liveforspeed dot hu).

as for my votes:

Site: I don't browse any that much, so I would say the LFS Forum
Team: I would say Muroc, as I race with them in the STCC and they are a nice bunch of guys
League: STCC for the broadcast and the professional approach in rules and stewarding
Person: can't name all of them
Apps: I used lfs spectator recently, but the only really useful app I ever found was the analyser for speed

I believe Kimi is the favourite, however this season might resemble those days when the williams was the best car, but somehow they didn't manage to scoop the title easily, like with Damon Hill and JAcques, because Schumi was there fighting and causing trouble (in a good sense I mean, except for Jerez 1997). Kimi will need some time to fit in, I think Alonso will be better at the start, might adapt easier, he might be able to build up a small lead in the championship, but eventually Kimi will turn things over and if the car won't fail him, he will be the champion.

Quote from JJ72 :

no way, Hakkinen is one of the funniest guy in F1!

as is Kimi, he is just way too underrated, as he doesn't give a shite about pleasing the media

Quote from xaotik :

Thanks.

It's a globe - Victor changed the flag for "Other" recently - reload the page so you refresh your cache (you obviously have the cached flag still).

right, it's a globe now for me too

hah, this thread is funny!

and xaotik your avatar is cool, nice idea, although the country flag is a question mark here, whereas in your avatar it is more like a big dot, isn't it?

you guys win todays 'figure out a non-native english speaker's forum post' competition

very nice, superb quality!
an xrt on pole! can't wait for the full broadcast.

Quote from Jakg :

i still can't believe how quick Victor was in the XRT - he was quicker than me and i was using the FXO!

hehe, I actually happened to practise for this race a "couple of laps" to create a fast and easy to drive setup (around 150 laps I think) and I had quite a lot of laps in this track from S1 times still with all 3 TBO cars.

mail them to me and I'll upload them if I find the time.

if they are all drift sets, no need to add any more details.

mail is: csuratliveforspeeddothu

Quote from traxxion :

Learn to drive!


Just kidding, no crash here so far

hehe, no i meant it in connection with the stcc server incident

I crashed with U 30.

Quote from Jakg :

Yes... 16xAA, 7950GT + nHancer!

I know what AA does, and i said i can't see the difference between 4 and 16 while racing (although in screenies it is pretty obvious!), but yes i can tell the difference between 0 and 4x!

oh, nice I thought you messed up the terms, happens to some you know

well then i can fully understand you, I wouldn'T notice much difference between 4x and 16x either, but I wouldn'T go above 4x anyways, no need for that

Quote from bo-kristiansen :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet

thx