Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

Yes my mistake it was Itek, I got confused because the also ran the same colours and similar style of skin

yea right, and because they also happen to run a setup field, huh?

Quote from Töki (HUN) :

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=29553

was this a reply to my question? these two threads are the same, just in different sections of the forum. the link you posted has nothing to do with any logo competition.

what logo competition? whose logo was it?

Quote from Xpowaspa :

@csurdongulos
I'm not a very fast driver and the times were there mainly because I think the starting line was in two different places...

what do you mean? what has the starting line to do with laptimes? the length of the track is still the same wherever the starting line is.

just for the record: the starting line has not changed since S1.

I don't get it why you show the laptimes, they are of no relevance as you weren't driving competetively (spelling?) enough to make a valid comparison between S1 and S2.

just for reference:
in S1 the best XRT laptimes were low 1:22's (maybe some scarce high 1:21's, but not HLVC), you can check the S2 laptimes at LFSworld.

Quote from The Moose :

Rubbish...they are perfectly appropriate for the FOX, some of the best races in the FOX are at FE1/FE1R .
It's some of the drivers that aren't appropriate for FE1

(hopes no one posts replay of my n00bish FE1 T1 cock up )

I had good races there before on ctra, but when starting to lap the field it just becomes a slalom course and a "who avoids the obstacles better" competition.

as I said before, it is not suited for public SS racing on the entry level.

Quote from Becky Rose :

Aston Cadet + Rev
Aston Club + Rev
Aston North + Rev
South City Town + Rev
Westhill + Rev
Blackwood + Rev
Fern Bay Green Rev Only

funny I have never met FE green, nor rev, never did SO town, westhill or aston north either.

I encountered aston cadet and blackwood yesterday. during the last week I only drove fe club, rev and kyoto nat and rev. I saw so classic reverse once, but didn't manage to join in time for it.

Where did kyoto nationals go from that list? also why isn't FE gold in the list? One of the best tracks in LFS all time, and it is very short with the fox.

Is it possible to have dynamic grid size? I mean on smaller tracks you could reduce it to 15-17, and on larger ones increase it to 25 or so.

for most of these racers the inferno site wouldn't be of much help as they would crash even more often with hotlap setups. easy to drive sets sound better, or having a choice which one the racer would like.

shame insim doesn't allow setup sending yet.

having a pack of setups for the rotating tracks mailed to the racer upon request might also help, and you could have those 2 options mentioned above. although it is not the best solution as it requires alt+tabbing, or shift+f4-ing, it is still the best there is currently.

renaming it to "the race before this one" might help

I got confused by "last race" as well.

I strongly suggest to remove FE club reverse from the track rotation, I had the worst racing there yesterday and days before. The track is so narrow and needs a really sticky setup that handles the curbs well that people crash at every second turn. there are always cars on the side of the track (good case) or on the track crashed out.

this track is just not suitable for public racing with so many unexperienced racers. fe club normal is somewhat better as everybody knows it and the turns aren't that screwed up like the 1st turn on rev or the chicane.

Is there an InSim function to send a server side stored setup to users? I would gladly contribute the setups I have to give new racers something to start with. As I have noticed due to the track changes a lot of people are caught off guard, and have no suitable setup for the track and this causes a lot of accidents (happened to myself yesterday, when I was using a setup I have never driven before, though I didn't take out anybody luckily)

You could implement a request setup button on the entry screen when the licence details pop up, if it is possible.

Quote from Becky Rose :

@StableX, that screenshot shows you 3 seconds off the fastest lap, and i've no idea how far off the CTRA record but judging by the person who won and got fastest lap only getting 5pts, i'd say the record was a good few seconds faster still.

the record is more than 3 seconds faster. although I haven't experienced any problems with the wind, you might consider setting the servers to only low wind as a maximum to avoid it having a too major effect on laptimes.

Quote from marzman :

I think it is a bad idea to not let silver and up licence holders on race1. If it is for the points as you say, you could give silver and up people less points but they should be able to race on any server they are licenced for.

in stcc racers with a higher licence than bronze didn't get any points on the 1st server, that was great that way. they could still race, but not for points, just for fun. I don't remember reading about this, why it has been changed, can someone enlighten me?

Quote from Becky Rose :

Hi Vic, it appears there was a little bug on the admin interface that's now been fixed and the licence rectified. Sam appologises

I forgive Sam

I was thinking it would be nice if on the detailed licence top list the number of races that you participated in could also be shown. or is that cumulative and not separated by each licence? I mean, on the nice licence, generated by the system, it is obviously cumulative for all 3 licences, but would it be possible for when viewing them separately to have them counted and shown on that list?

I mean here: http://www.raceauthority.com/topss.asp
In front of wins, you could squeeze in Total Races as well.

It is good to know how many finishes you had and how many races you won/were placed on the podium from those.

Is this possible?

Quote from SpikeyMarcoD :

Took a picture first?

I did, if Chris wants to keep it as a memory

there seems to be a bug with the SS server. check RA:

http://www.raceauthority.com/topss.asp

the guy cjb1118 has national A licence despite not having done a single race (according to LFS world history) on the single seater server.

Quote from obsolum :

Yeah, I get the impression that a lot of the people who complain about crashers on the servers are actually crashers themselves. Not all of them, but many. I have to say that the level of racing is significantly better than on most other popular servers such as CD and Redline. So I'm inclined to think that when people complain about low standards of racing that the problem actually lies with them and not the other drivers.

I have to agree. the challenge in public racing for me lies in avoiding those who are charging through the first couple of turns without braking and looking out for others.
I tend to think that if someone complains that he/she has been crashed out in every race that he is at fault as well, I like starting from the middle or back of the pack to end up in the top5 by turn 1 just by avoiding the crashed cars
You have to realise that public racing is not league racing, you cannot blindly trust every racer to give you as much space as you would give him (of course there are nice exceptions, which make it worth doing public racing).
Just be careful, and avoid aggressive maneuvers and most importantly: look into your mirrors, look to the sides and make sure nobody is trying a do or die move on your inside, if someone does, just take a late apex and drive on laughing at the noob

Quote from anttt69 :

Come on guys imagine the chaos of organising 48 teams 20mins before the first race. It makes sense to get the pre quali done & dusted days/weeks before it starts.

what's the big deal about it? you see a list with your name on it and you join the server which is assigned to you, pretty simple I think. It just needs to be decided how many people race on one server and the process must be clearly communicated to the teams. for example: racers being in positions 1st-25th go to the 1st server, 26th-50th to the 2nd server.
That's it. There already is a tracker, no extra work needs to be done.

question regarding option 1: RWD - GTR, which GTR?
danowat's suggestion: 20 laps per team, or per each driver of the team?

I have voted for option 2 as it determines the grid with the drivers that are actually going to race.
Regarding grid sorting, it isn't that hard to go to a website and check your position after the qualifying. You just have to put in a decent break of 5-10 minutes to allow everyone to sort it out for themselves.

Quote from Jakg :

LFS tracks are often inspired by real tracks - KY Nat is Indy, Aston GP takes a lot of bends from Magny-Cours

show me one turn at aston that is similar to magny cours.

or did you mean spa?

lx6, just had a 12h race with some german guys at kyoto national on saturday. I enjoyed driving it right till the end

http://vr12h.lfs-tracker.de/

Quote from Jakg :

i know it can be done - but it's hard.

On Sunday i did a league race with the new TBO's, and the FXO could barely keep up with the XRT, and the same XRT could barely keep up with the RB4's - i know its temporary to remove FXO dominance, but the XRT and RB4 need to be closer, and the FXO needs to be closer and yet still slightly slower

barely is a harsh word to describe the rb4-xrt relationship in that race, but due to the nature of the track (kerbs, many turns, short straights) the rb4 had a couple of tenths advantage over the xrt.

the big advantage of the rb4 in these short races is that it beats everything from a standing start.

Quote from ATHome :

Can't really see where an RB4 eats FXO and XRT to breakfast.

You really need to know how to drive it to be quick.

it eats the fxo and xrt on any track that has laptimes of around 1:20 and only short straights.

of course blackwood with the longs straights will result in the xrt being the fastest. RB4 wasn't made any slower from patch W, so the laptimes are the same. the XRT was given +20 kgs, which made it probably 1-2 tenths slower in worst case. The FXO suffers the most, but is surely capable of doing 23's. I almost managed to do it myself, despite not having any practice there with this car.

while I agree that the fe green chicane is difficult to get right every lap, it is nowhere unpredictable, nor is the track. if you get thrown off a lot, you either hit the tyres, or you got a bad setup. my xrt behaved just fine over the curbs there at around and above 150 kph.

I am glad the stcc race did not have the layout, but for public racing it is a good idea. however the only thing I would have changed (this is based on the layout which almost made it to the stcc race, i don't know what layout is currently used on ctra servers) is narrowing the entry to have speeds around 120. putting extra tyres at the exit (as shown in one of the earlier posts) is no good. you have the extra run-off area, why can't you use it then? I would have liked an answer from Becky and the DRB on this topic back then, but I never got it.

Quote from keithano :

disconnect dun reduce laps..that's the updated rules from ORION..

was that updated before, or after ZT had a disconnection?

Quote from Jamexing :

4WD does NOT magically eat tires faster than other drivetrains. It's suppoesed to save tires and extend tire change intervals if well set up and driven to provide even wear. Unless of course yo resort to 4 wheel drifts.

my point is, the rb4 is fast if driven on the limit, which means braking late, accelerating early. the rb4 is always driven more aggresively than the fxo or the xrt. it should overheat and eat the tyres, as it does currently.