teamName: Team Inferno
car: FZR
number: 003
driver:
- Commander, Jörn Dombrowski (sorry, spelling?!? ), Germany
- Palee, Pál Orosz, Hungary
- gergo, Gergely Humicskó, Hungary
- csurdongulos, Viktor Szabó, Hungary

teamName: Team Inferno #2
car: FZR
number: 004
driver:
- dpAlonso, Martin Krönke, Germany
- baSh0r, Marius Golombeck, Germany
- Commander, Jörn Dombrowski (sorry, spelling?!? ), Germany

Quote from Campos_MIC :

What about the TBO class?

I drive in a brazilian league LFSBR (www.lfsbr.com) and we now have a XRT and RB4 championship.

I am in first on the championship using the XRT. The RB4 is a lot slow on all the tracks. And that happens because their tires get hotter easier than the XRT.

So I think that the XRT should have at least 35kg.

what type of tracks do you use? RB4 is quicker on shorter, twistier tracks, XRT on longer tracks, where the top speed counts. that's how it should be.

edit: and the RB4 should eat the tyres as it is a 4WD.

Last edited by csurdongulos, Tue, 22 May 2007 15:31.

Quote from Yaamboo :

Yup. My wording wasn't the best

I don't think it was your wording that lacked here, rather our austrian colleagues' english knowledge

Quote from LordBlaster :

i would like to know if i´m really the best german so far

i doubt you're the best, but you might have the highest license. :P

just two notes:

we don't shift+s anymore, you should update it to shift+p. (shift+s is spectate now, not pit)

regarding the server split up, does it mean that theoretically a server 3 GTR could be the overall winner?

most of the stuff I was thinking has already been said before, so I'd just like to say that I enjoyed my time on the STCC public servers and the league as well. Looks like the league is going to be carried on with, which is good, but I'll miss the broadcasts and the public racing as well.

all the best to you Becky, I am sure you'll sort your stuff out and hopefully restart the STCC project someday.

Quote from Becky Rose :

Race needed it, even if you got the box product all that was on there was the steam installer and a licence code. I was shocked and apalled. GTR2 didn't require steam.

EDIT: Although since installing GTR2 with it's starforce CD protection I can no longer burn DVD's. Great isn't it!

i bought race via steam, I feel I wasted 45 dollars of hard earned money, since its release the price dropped to 10-15 bucks, which considering the game is not even 6 months old is really a shame.

I definitely won't buy anything ISI/simbin related until I gave it a good 3-4 months thought and tested the demo. the only problem is that simbins demo's aren'T a good representation of the final product. I wish all demos were like LFS's.

about the Lizard engine: I think it will just be a graphically improved ISI engine, the cars still won't feel like being on the road at all. but I would be very happy I were to be proved wrong.

however GTR2 still has no starforce protection, it has securom I believe. and I can burn DVD's fine ever since people complained about starforce a lot as well, I had no trouble with it whatsoever.

I found in the road cars since we have preload, a quite low coast setting should work better, give 35-40 a try.

Quote from J.B. :

Well, I think if the wheels are not accelerating but keeping a constant speed then the reactive forces at the tyres (the ones I think we're seeing in forces view) should be exactly the same as the forces coming from the driveshafts (Mechanical equilibrium).

aren't the yellow lines showing the weight distribution and the other coloured lines showing the amount of grip the tyres have? why would they show the drive shaft forces?

Quote from AndroidXP :

Preload added to setup?

ah that's all? I thought he found out something else, like using positive camber as a new setup exploit

anyone tried if clutch pack with preload is faster now than the locked diff? I did some hotlapping on BL GP and I improved my pb by 0.14 with clutch pack, vs my old locked diff time.

Quote from The Moose :

OT: i had one of those moments yesterday when i discovered a setup change that completely changed how the XRT felt to drive. I have now fallen in love with it and will probably never set foot in an FXO again.(in W10 anyway) Thank god (or the dev's ,would be more accurate ) for preload

care to explain the change?

Quote from SKaREO :

S1 is a nightmare right now. You should allow S1 players to connect to S2 servers and only use S1 cars. That would make a lot more sense than having only 1 server to play in regularly.

that's exactly what is going to happen based on SCawen's recent comments about the upcoming X patch.

anyways, you shouldn't compare GT3 to LFS. it isn't fair and it has no point. they are also aimed at different audiences and strive for two different things.

LFS wants to please the sim fans and aims for realistic driving physics. GT aims for the masses and to provide the most content. If the latter appeals to you more, then you shouldn't waste your time on LFS.

Quote from SKaREO :

Crashing still happens in that server, and I think I need a replay or something to report it. Either way its silly to buy an S1 license and then be forced to drive the slowest cars. Not sure what that is all about.

I agree with the guys who are saying "Don't bother selling S1, it only discourages your customers." S2 price is also too high for an online distributed game with very little content. I mean the price is comparable to Gran Turismo, but the game itself clearly is not. Also, I buy Gran Turismo in a box, not through a web site.

crashing happens everywhere, save the replay and report it to the admins to help making the server a better place to drive.
You are not forced to drive the slowest cars at all, you can always drive the others. you either drive the slower cars with other people online, or you can go and practice offline.

S2 price is no way too high, and saying very little content is also wrong, it has plenty of content to keep us driving for more than two years now (or when was S2 released?). Also you get free updates until S3 is released. And you get that more than once in a year, what do you get for free after buying GT3? nothing I bet.

Clearly you don't get the LFS concept, nor the development process, so instead of posting rubbish, buy yourself S2 and see where the real action is. I think everyone will agree that you won't regret the purchase.

Quote from Viper93 :

Regular lap times were in the low 42's throughout the whole night.

low 52's you mean?
but actually it was a mixture of mid-high 51's and low 52's, for the front runners in the race.

Quote from Becky Rose :

Shhh Victor, if you reveal too much you shatter the illusion that Tristan and I are making an informed commentary, when in reality, we just talk rubbish for three quarters of an hour.

oh, sorry well Tristan (as he is playing the role of the "expert") could have noticed how short my pitstop was and make things clear but basically this is the only criticism I can give you two regarding the actual commentary. the audio levels weren't ok at many times, but that's a technical thing and I can deal with it. so if I haven'T done so yet, I would like to say: good job!

Quote from Cue-Ball :

- With all the damage everyone was taking, it didn't seem to get much mention, even after the leader colliding with a damaged backmarker.

actually I didn't get any damage at all in that incident, luckily. I pitted at the first opportunity to avoid the SC phase, and any accidental damage I got on the way, by brushing a wall here and there. The earlier you pit, the less chance there is you got major damage which makes you lose a lot of seconds in the pit due to repair. After the pit I lost maybe 2 seconds to Hannu due to having to fight a little with those who haven'T pitted yet, but it wasn't that bad and I couldn'T have closed the gap down anymore as my tyres were overheating badly, so the SC phase was welcome to cool the tyres down.

Quote from Swiss_Tony :

The broadcast was very good. I wish I could say the same for the standard of driving which seems to be slipping a bit. Enough said

you mean in the broadcast or on the servers in general?

Quote from bbman :

No, but for crashing in the chicane in general... AFAIK, you shift down BEFORE the chicane, so especially throttle blip should make no difference at all... Of course, going in with a car highly unsettled is suicide, but it is if blip were on too... As I said, it doesn't get that much harder, it isn't such an overwhelming change, there surely was enough time to prepare since the last race had the aid ban too, so excusing everything with something this unimportant is beyond my understanding...

funny, I checked your lfsw online stats and you have exactly 1 lap in a TBO car at south city classic. what makes you so confident that you could have mastered that chicane every single lap without errors, but fast enough to not fall back? I must admit I found especially 2 drivers weren't prepared well enough to be safe to race, I met one of them in the race as well, costing me my lead, and no there was no lag at my side, I was arriving as usual on the limit to the first left kink and John was just recovering from his incident and was still on the racing line, nothing I could have done to avoid him. the speed difference and the fact that it is a dark, nearly blind exit, didn't help either.

hitting the exit of the chicane wall once or twice during a 30 minute race isn't such a big issue, everyone makes mistakes.

I agree though that blaming the absence of blip is not an acceptable excuse for mistakes, especially with a fwd car.

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

Ah ok fair enough, no excuses next time though!

that's right

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

Great production, the driving was a bit messy but the track is tricky and with everyone pushing so hard its bound to happen. I am really suprised at the number of people forgetting or just plain breaking the rules considering its round 7, its basic stuff not to shift+s or reset and drivers of this standard should really do better and not break those rules.

with round 7 came regulation changes in the format of the qualifying, whereas before we had 3 minutes, which resulted in 3, max 4 flying laps. in this round we had 10 minutes, where you might have wanted to pit, now this was the point where people (noobs like me :P) forgot about the shift+s rule and when they were coasting back to pits to make some changes, they telepitted. also some of us have been playing LFS for 2-3-4 years now and the shift+s or esc and then select pit is a reflex, which is very hard to get rid of.

the original intention of this rule was to avoid cars telepitting in the broadcasts, now the qualifying is not shown on the broadcast, so you can easily forget about it. at least I did and my championship points are really sad about that

Becky, you are aware that the mrt5 is S1 content, are you? as I see it, because of the challenge it poses for many drivers it will never be as popular to fill a 28 slot server. so having another s1 server with 15 or 16? slots would make a good compromise and would also make Scawen happy

Quote from SamH :

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thanks, is that vegas, though? doesn't look familiar anyways, I would have never found out that would speed up the sound as well, so thx a lot.

Quote from SamH :

Most of the full-grid footage I ever shoot is recorded at half speed, and bumped up 2x in Vegas. My processor can't hack a full grid AND fraps

I was trying to do that once, but the sound was still played at the original 0.5 speed, am i really such a noob that I didn't find how to speed up the sound as well?

Quote from Becky Rose :

It has a lot of ramifications, half the reason STCC is so exciting is because the fast guys dont start first.

the fast fxo guys you mean :P

Quote from Nathan_French_14 :

Imo, inferno's set's dont suite me, and from alot of other people that i have seen use them, they have said they dont like them either but whatever, i dont see how this can stop spam,

that's fine, but they are there and they can be a very good reference for you to decide where to start with a setup.

If you don't like it, change it for your liking. if you cannot change it for your liking, then learn to do it, or stop complaining and learn to drive it as it is.

some people seem to forget how unselfish and noble it is from some of these guys to share their wr setups, with which they have spent several minutes/hours/days developing. you could at least spend the same amount of time getting some basic info how to make a setup suitable for your own needs.