No, just window LFS, select something in another window, then come back to LFS

I cannot reproduce that and doubt I will be able to fix it as I don't have any idea what is happening on your computer. My best guess is that some other program is interfering with Lazy.

well ill do an video of it

i just cannot reproduce the error ind some points sometimes it happends sometimes not and in these time it does not happends the gauge overlay wont start and its telling me some other program is already hooked up in lfs but there is no other program as far as i can see it

so its mainly an problem with the gauges overlay i think i will test a little bit more

Go to Other->Options and check Overlay : Do not verify addresses, to prevent that message...

There is a new build due to new version of LFS

Not much changes, but I hope you'll enjoy them.

Quote :

New update window
Some files are verified after saving
Support for 0.6H2

Here you can see the new update window:

Daniel, why is the background on the update window is dark grey and not default system ? That's not really beautiful.

Just like main window can be green, pink, yellow, ... it can be black or very dark as well. Issue with update window is that there is a black text over that background and it would be really hard to read or not at all. Obviously I cannot leave it like that, so I'm thinking right now maybe I should enable dynamic background color of update window and color the text to white instead of black when background is dark enough.

Version 40 sometimes makes my lfs screen black if I go full screen and then back to window. And I can't seem to fix it. Where can I find version 39?

UPD: this happens after if I am with car on track.

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Just like main window can be green, pink, yellow, ... it can be black or very dark as well. Issue with update window is that there is a black text over that background and it would be really hard to read or not at all. Obviously I cannot leave it like that, so I'm thinking right now maybe I should enable dynamic background color of update window and color the text to white instead of black when background is dark enough.

I don't get this. System background color is light grey, while text color is black, there is no problem at all with this. Why is the background color changed in first place ? ^^

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Version 40 sometimes makes my lfs screen black if I go full screen and then back to window. And I can't seem to fix it. Where can I find version 39?

UPD: this happens after if I am with car on track.

Yes, mine also went black when i went back to windowed lfs window after i-net browser.

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Version 40 sometimes makes my lfs screen black if I go full screen and then back to window. And I can't seem to fix it. Where can I find version 39?

UPD: this happens after if I am with car on track.

Should be fixed now with the new build 41. It affected 0.6H and earlier versions.

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Why is the background color changed in first place ? ^^

Which background color are you reffering to? Background color of update window is pretty much unchanged since begining.

Or are you reffering to the color of main window (attachment)?

I'm talking about before the begining, why haven't you used the default system color ? ^^
And I'm also talking about main and update windows.

EDIT : Use this to use default background color :


BTW, Lazy crashes everytime it detect build 41 (I'm with build 40 but can't update it).

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WNDCLASSEX window_class;
window_class.hbrBackground = (HBRUSH)COLOR_WINDOW;

Does this look better?

Color isn't really an issue for me. Reason why I've made dynamic color for main window is because it became already boring

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BTW, Lazy crashes everytime it detect build 41 (I'm with build 40 but can't update it).

I've got a build 40 copy and updated it just fine to 41.

Much better !
That's (most of the time) a bad idea to try to change from the default Win32 apperance, because if it's not done well, then it's embarrassing to see.

Just to be clear, if you want to now what I call a nice update window, check out Steam's one.

Hi there Daniel, I have been using LFSLazy since about 2014-2015 Christmas but the day before yesterday and yesterday we came across three problems. The first being the in-game dashboard; our problem (Which I have fixed for myself but don't know how) is that he can't see the dashboard in first person/is staying as the default dashboard, and because I am also using the NTO Rev Bouncer it flickers when I use it.
The second which we found out is "Build 41" Which whenever I/we start LFS up is come's up with this: https://www.lfs.net/attachment/133761/thumb
But when I start up the LFSLazy program it comes up with this:

*EDIT - Also whenever I tab out of LFS with LFSLazy running, my screen turns black and stay's black until I close LFS.

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Much better !
That's (most of the time) a bad idea to try to change from the default Win32 apperance, because if it's not done well, then it's embarrassing to see.

Just to be clear, if you want to now what I call a nice update window, check out Steam's one.

Not really a problem for me to change a color. To be honest I don't really care much about appearance, functionality is more on my mind. I'd like to hear from others as well, is that light gray default color better?

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The first being the in-game dashboard; our problem (Which I have fixed for myself but don't know how) is that he can't see the dashboard in first person/is staying as the default dashboard,

Let me know if you find the cause.

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because I am also using the NTO Rev Bouncer it flickers when I use it.

Its like that from begining. Rev bouncer kills your ignition and therefore it has some effect on LFSLazy dashboard. You can modify dashes that you are using, so its not turning off with ignition.

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The second which we found out is "Build 41" Which whenever I/we start LFS up is come's up with this: https://www.lfs.net/attachment/133761/thumb
But when I start up the LFSLazy program it comes up with this:

Does the crash happen when you are updating to build 41?
When does it happen exactly? The moment when update window appears or when you click update?
I wouldn't mind getting a crash report.
For now you can manually update by downloading LFSLazy from the first post and replacing it in your LFSLazy folder.

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*EDIT - Also whenever I tab out of LFS with LFSLazy running, my screen turns black and stay's black until I close LFS.

Seems like you are still using build 40, that should be fixed in 41.

LFSLazy crashes when I/we start up LFS and comes up with the Update needed message and when I load LFSLazy again it crashes.
When I have LFSLazy up and running I can't tab out though.

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Not really a problem for me to change a color. To be honest I don't really care much about appearance, functionality is more on my mind.

Functionality is important, but design and juicyness can make your game/app sell and appear more professional in front of non-coder people.

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LFSLazy crashes when I/we start up LFS and comes up with the Update needed message and when I load LFSLazy again it crashes.
When I have LFSLazy up and running I can't tab out though.

Try downloading LFSLazy from the first post and replacing it in your LFSLazy folder as I already said.

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Functionality is important, but design and juicyness can make your game/app sell and appear more professional in front of non-coder people.

Especially important since I've made millions from LFSLazy sales

I'm glad to hear some input. Yeah, that Steam window is simple enough, but I still think I cannot leave out some vital things e.g. current version, newest version. What do you think about showing the size of a new version? Also current progress with the download, progress bar is nice IMO, are the numbers needed e.g. 1553/2893 KB ? Change log is also vital part which I don't think I should leave out now.

Any "complaints" to other windows?
Actually its great to hear some, it made me think how certain parts can be improved.

Actually, when I talk about Steam update window, it's not a static thing. Of course your need to ajust it to your needs !
EDIT : Always think that some people are actually afraid of informations, they just want that the app do it stuff and that's it, so UI have to be thinked to please everyone (more or less, from the "show me the new code un changelog, I want to know everything" to the "do your stuff, I don't care" peoples). END EDIT

I was thinking something like writing the download size (in Mo/MB instead of KB, because it's easier to read) where the "Extracting package..." is.
For informations about versions and changelog, I think and adding a button "Detail" witch deploy the changelog, show the current and new version. Here is a representation of it (don't mind the shitty XP theme and please don't reproduce it lol ) :





For the main window I have an idea but I have to go to work, so we'll talk about it later.

Waaaaaaaaay better !

Last things now :
- Set font to default system one (very important)
- Use "Show Changelog" and "Hide Changelog" rather than "Details<<" and "Details>>" (that's more accurate).

I think that after that you can do a video and ask what people think about it.

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- Set font to default system one (very important)

I have to agree, that font looks quite ugly imo Default system font would be better.

System font now, and "More..."/"Less..." because all that text was too long and it didnt look good IMO.