Quote from GruntOfAction :

So Forza 2 on the Xbox 360 isn't a sim?

I played it and it did great.

It's probably the best racing game for a console out there, I can agree to that. But I don't think it is 'completely' a simulator, because there are some things in Forza that feel a bit arcadey. But there is no question, it is the best... (and my favorite) racing game for a console.

It is also true that nearly every console game is dumbed up to make it easier with a gamepad controller. Racing games are typically very easy to drive in a console... you have driving aids, or the cars generally are very easy to control --- no matter how much they call the game a 'simulation'. Console FPS games usually have really dumb AI so you can take the time to try and aim with the silly gamepad (PC version of a similar game would have way harder AI because they know you use a mouse and keyboard -- way easier to shoot with).

That has been on there for ages now.... old.

Bawbag isn't racing anymore? lame.....

He is only using the viewer HellBoy, don't get on his case just yet..... :doh: Plus... playing on a cruise server surely would mean he is licensed?

Quote from h3adbang3r :

I use a SideWinder FFB. The only thing wrong with it right now is the shift buttons behind the wheel occasionally double/triple shifting on me. Nothing wrong with the pedals.

Then turn on "gearshift debounce" in the options. To like.... 120ms

Quote from deggis :

Anyone knows which LCD system that is on the wheel? Could Google the manufacturer and see better pics. On the official screenshot you can see the same stuff that FOX/FO8/BF1 has (brake bl. & fuel). I doubt this is correct (like it made any difference in the end ).

http://www.2d-datarecording.com/

Says right on the wheel

I think it is quite easy to make a fictional car look real with details.

All the past models Eric have made are very old, and obviously not as much time was put into them as the FBM I think. If the roadcars just had extra body lines between body parts, more visible bolts and added edges to give a more complex look... then LFS would look 10x better.

I am confident he can do cockpits, but to be honest, I'd rather see the bodywork touched up on all the cars. For example, UF1000 could look SOOOO much better with little classic chrome bits (especially the bumpers).

FBM definitely will have to set the standard for all the other models in LFS.

[imitation]Omg this video sucks.

You can't drift, I don't like you because you arab drift, I am so good at making movies, my movies are better, less than average, not impressed. Massive amount of areas need to be worked on. 2.5/10.

really... what was so good about it?[/imitation]



We all start somewhere....

Last edited by Tweaker, Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:19.

Oh yeah, and any BF1 race I try online, they always just seem really laggy. Like the netcode cannot cope with such a fast car.

I don't care about how the aero looks, but what I DO want to see updated on the current BF1 is better looking suspension parts so it doesn't look so horrible. Just look at those massive tires, being held on by plain looking sticks? Doesn't look possible. Somehow I think the BF1's track width isn't correct. It looks a tad bit too wide to me.

Also, physics wise I personally think it just doesn't act like an F1 car should. Yeah yeah... all this about "have you ever driven a modern F1 car???" --- don't be stupid, nobody on this forum ever has. Fact is, the BF1 drifts and slides far too much, and the car is thrashed around so hard when doing quick laps that it just looks stupid in the process.

The rFactor BF1 is far better in terms of looks, sound, and feel, and LFS's BF1 seriously just looks and feels like a toy car rolling on a linoleum kitchen floor.

Yeah it is great to have an F1 car in LFS, but the BF1 feels like it was rushed into LFS. It could use some more work to make it an even more enjoyable thrill to drive.

I would've thought that with no TC in 2008, we'd have slicks by then. But I guess not? At least, if they have less rear grip with grooved slicks this coming season, that should be interesting to watch

But I am way more in favor of full slicks on F1 cars. Should be interesting when we get to that point.

I like the design (my personal skins use stripes over front fenders like that), but I don't like the "UF1000" in comic sans or whatever it is. Looks kinda cheezy

Probably would look better in a text that is straighter/boxier, and says something else. I mean, I don't see cars racing with the name of the car in big letters on the side.

With all that detail on that skin.... now all we need is a Triztan Reynard Body Kitz!!!11!!1!1!!!

Quote from deggis :

Still there are those "show racing line" texts on the language file.

That has always been there. That is the racing 'groove' or dark markings on the track.

Quote from Bean0 :

and if I entered I'd just get my arse handed to me.

But you are pro, like.... almost Titanium!!!!

LOL, I like this whole "I am not addicted" approach BBT, nice :up:

Once you get sucked in by WoW, you are a sucker for WoW. Never touched it, never will, and I feel sorry for anyone that has even played it only once :doh:

Quote from CXC_Simulations :

Foot Vibration - Powerful race cars have this effect. The time I dove a 125 shifter kart, I had the same exact thing happen to me. The term escapes me at this moment, but racers have a name for it. If not kept in check it get's really bad. Ie: your foot bounces on the throttle, the engine revs at this harmonic making your foot move more. You see where this is going. I think that the fact that this happens in our simulator is a testimate to it's realism. I've had several race car drivers say the same thing.

While I agree that foot vibration happens in any car with a bumpy road... that isn't what I was getting at here...

The vibration shown when Alex was driving was like he was driving the BMW Sauber on an offroad course. Is it really THAT bumpy? I mean come on, the seat seems to exaggerate way too many forces, especially for what is a fairly smooth track I assume.

Of course there are little bumps and pits on the track here and there... but the vibration shown was constant. Furthermore, the vibration was so violent, when he got on the throttle it made it even worse.

Personally, I think something is wrong with how you've linked the simulator to your seat... it is as if it is getting data from the actual suspension arm moving up and down, and not the body/chassis itself. I'd prefer spending money on a motion simulator that still makes it possible to drive, than make it just a 'fun & bumpy' ride deemed realistic.

Last edited by Tweaker, Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:55.

Never look at screens in a computer store either. They always have those screens setup witht heir VGA plug on a HUGE VGA "hub" that splits the display to all the screens. Everytime I goto any computer store and look at their screens, they always have a really bad blurry image (sometimes double image), and just very poorly set up. You need to search around online and read lots of reviews and customer comments.

Most good reviews are with Samsung and Dell screens. Viewsonic... some good, some bad.

24" inch user here, and always have run high resolutions. 1920x1200 is fine, and a great size I might add. You'll be happy with such a screen... anything that is 22" or less is just too small... because I have yet to see such a screen use a very crisp 1920x1200 picture.

I have the Dell 2407-HC model, fairly new, a bit pricey... but I bought it because it has tons of other video inputs. It is essentially a Samsung screen in a very nicely designed package . I'd buy a Samsung screen no matter what. EIZO's are too expensive if I remember correctly, so I really don't bother with those.

Make sure you have a 1000:1 contrast ratio or higher, and 6ms or faster response time. Ghosting will always happen in small cases... it is really false for manufacturers to say "ghost free"... there is always ghosting on a TFT.

I do design work too, but don't buy into having an Eizo screen just because of color calibration. Nearly every 24" widescreen out there will have decent color reproduction, and if anything... be only slightly off hue after you calibrate it to the best possible colors... but it will never be terribly incorrect.

EDIT: FPS is really going to depend on what video card you have... so I can't give a good opinion on that. 8800 GTS 640mb here... and fps drops only a tiny bit at max res.

I hope AVP is going to be better than the one a few years back....

And speaking of LOST, can't wait when it comes back on air..... I have my usual 100 million unsanswered questions

MUCH better

To be honest, I see issues with drivers from both parties... so no point in really deciding which brand of drivers suck Been a long time ATI and Nvidia user, and there are always similar problems that arise when using new drivers. Most of the time the only solution would be to roll-back to an older driver, since some drivers would have issues with a certain option in their 'control panel' or just have poor performance overall.

If I were to choose though, I think Nvidia have the most reliable and nicest drivers. ATI just seem to be still stuck in the year 2000 to me.... if you know what I mean.

It's funny though, the seat vibrates so much, you can hear his foot on the throttle vibrating rapidly... that is really bad

Cool coverage, keep it coming :up:

Quote from Thunderhead :

Takata '06

That car being one of my favorite on the grid (and the yellow /w green wheels), I know it well, and have seen it in person.

The green you have used is wrong. It is really more of an emerald green with a pearly look. I'd recommend using this color: #004A2D / R:0 B:74 G:45

It's an official program from LFS.

S2 CMX Viewer.

The CMX files are the car mesh/models, and you can use it as a skinning tool... everyone does afaik

Download it from the main site here: http://www.lfs.net/?page=addons