Because I wanted to differentiate it from an earlier track I'd made HERE.

Wish I hadn't, as it would have made it so much easier to make.

Alright, found my issue, which was that every way I laid out Start boxes / Finish Line /Checkpoints, I always put Finish Line in front of Start boxes. This doesn't work. You need to put FL behind the boxes.



Layout can be found HERE.

Also took me a while to get my head round setting race for 2 laps - of course, what is meant is that wherever you start, once you cross the finish line first time (lap 1), you will be in other lane, next to where you started, and next time you cross finish line (lap 2) you will be back in lane where you started. And finish race. And of course, for every additional complete circuit you want to do, you add 2 laps.

So thanks for the info on that. And for tip on placing checkpoints in mid-air, midway on crossover. This meant that I could get all 3 sector checkpoints placed so that times are recorded.

Caveat: Haven't checked it racing beside someone, but I assume all should be ok!

Made a quick Race of Champions (RoC) type layout to test how to set controls (start, split checkpoints, finish) for twin race.

Couldn't do it (partly as could only test by myself), and anyway, whatever I tried failed.

So, there's a Single Player (SP) time trial version, complete with all checkpoints, etc.



Overall lap length is 985 metres / 0.61 miles, with half lap (at lilac line in lane next to where you start) at 483 metres / 0.3 miles.

Splits shown on image are;

Start is Green arrow / 1st is Blue line / 2nd is Lilac / 3rd is Cyan / Finish is Orange.

Turns were far too tight for me - probably help if you can do handbrake turns (I can't), so my RB4 complete lap time should be easily beatable...




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New Twin layout as found out how to place controls so that all times recorded (at least as best I can check by myself) - the key (apart from setting layout for 2 laps [meaning crossing Finish line twice, but only really doing single lap]} is to put finish line before the start boxes.

Last edited by sinanju, Tue 19 Jan 2016, 10:34. Reason : Found out how to do splits and finish for Twin layout

Because with any other car I use, it's not a drift; its a skid, swiftly followed by a crash.

RB4 is the car I mainly use when test driving all my layouts as I make them, as its long, wide and tall enough to make sure I can get round corners and under bridges.

I struggled getting round some of the turns in the RB4, so gave up developing layout further as too much work to recontour the hard turns.

Check your Recycle Bin.

I know, but seems a shame to spoil it for the community due to the actions of a minority.

Anyway, if you're a licensed user, and you're that desperate for proper working drag lights, there's already 2 different drag strips that can be used in the Autocross configurations.

Started making a layout, but got bored with it (I have no drift skills - kept crashing), so stopped once I'd done the perimeter. The yellow chalk lines are where I was going to put alternate routes.



Name of layout refers to shape and length. Layout made up of 33 X 21 (16x16m) slabs, so approx 500m x 330m at widest points.

For scale, that's an RB4 in image, bottom right, between red triangles.

The start position is on the straight where car is (because that's where I started making layout from), but might be better placing start on large curve at top of image - longer run to 1st turn to build some speed up - you could make 2 layouts - one clockwise, other anti-.

All turns have different radii.

Was going to make the 'ear' section larger, but that would have made the 3 straights overly long.

I made a drag lights system while ago for lapper (not the lights in 1st post, as InSim doesn't do orange).



Code can be found HERE, and a video I put on YouTube showing system in action ...



Light timing: I made them random, although recently looking at code, I had set light sequence randomness from 4 to 9 seconds, which is probably far too long - see change of code HERE.

Bass-Driver made an even better system for lapper, but due to problems with someone hacking his code (basically taking the credit), he withdrew code. My code's still there, but I'm not going to update. I only did it to see if I could (yes, but not very well), and to play with making lights.

Converted this layout into even longer (2.85 Km / 1.77 mile) track - see HERE.



Includes crossover section so no favouritism or advantage depending on starting on inside or outside lane.

Converted a small 2 lane drift layout into something big longer, so now 2.85 Km / 1.77 miles ...



Includes crossover/underpass, so that if you start in outside lane, a complete circuit will mean you finish on inside lane, and vice versa.

The RoC layout has single start positionn, timed checkpoints and finish line, whereas 2 lane drift layout only has 2 start positions (one in each lane).

I'm not a drifter, so I'm not really best person for doing these types of tracks, but I've made very small track that you can use as an example, as in, 'nothing like I'm looking for', 'that corner is ok, rest no good', etc.



After trying my own layout, would think that any kind of side-by-side layout needs a cross over at some point, so that both drivers get to drive same radiused turns. Especially on my layout.

Few things;

• Westhill carpark, like the rest of Westhill, is much harder to build on than any other track. This is due to the elevation changes. For instance, from one end of the carpark you want, the ground goes from 4.5 metres, to over 26 metres.
  
  No big deal you might think, except not only do you have to fiddle with X and Y headings, but you also have to place things accurately height wise - all the time - everywhere.
  
  
  
  The triangles in the image, like the slabs, are 16 m x 16 m. Place and move them 10 m and there's 3 elevation changes.
  
  My point: a lot of effort.
  

• Do you have any sort of design in mind?
  
  Or does the builder of this layout also have to put in all the effort in designing the track too?
  
  What if you don't like the design? Too big, too small, too easy, too hard, not enough turns, too many turns, ......?
  

• Your attitude stinks.
  
  You're on here requesting something for free, hoping for the goodwill of the LFS community, and as soon as someone asks a legitimate question, which you could have just politely replied to, maybe expanding on your reason you put in your first post, we get stroppy petulant teenager answers instead.
  

Not saying someone won't make you a layout, just give them a reason to want to help (politeness; not money).

Better yet - make your own. That way you won't have to ask an ungrateful community for their help.

If you're one of these people that thinks its too hard to make one because you haven't done it before, (and we all started from not having made a layout before) then to make autocross layout;

SHIFT U
Click Edit tab button
Pick an object from top list of choices
Click letter O to place the object
Use < and > to turn object (if required) - for info, 64 clicks of one of these keys will turn an object 90 deg
Use arrows beside X and Y coordinates if you want to fiddle with fine placement control
Use arrows beside Z (height) coordinate for moving object up and down.
Some objects you can also change colour, length, height, pitch and (in case of concrete wedges), angles.

If you find it hard to make a nice neat and constant radiused turn, then use lines or walls between objects as spacing guides. Delete these when the other objects are placed.



You have 1,800 objects to play with - this should be more than ample for your needs.



I managed a 5,000 m track with that number.

Video of new layout I've made ...



Wasn't going fast, as trying to stay in middle of track to get length (which turns out to be approx 3,515 metres / 2.19 miles), which is why the slow down and stop near end.

It's the turn I struggled with most, which is why I put white lane marker chalk lines before turn, added distance marker to direction marker, and put red/white barriers on top of the wall you refer to.

Maybe using an overhead gantry before the turn might have been better? I like the feedback for any new layouts I make.



In fact, it was because of that very corner, that I experimented with coloured concrete wedges (see my Aston Skytrack HERE).

Thanks for the glowing report on my help!

Although you have this as AS1X, you should try it on KY1X, SO1X and FE1X (just rename accordingly) to see difference in lighting and background effects. No guarantee you won't fall down an invisible hole as in certain places of the tracks, there's no ground (in Fern Bay, if you try building in the sky over the sand/sea area, you're likely to fall through the track you've built).

Quote from VolksTurbo :

Hello Sinanju, you could not let me link system showing the distance covered? please! thanks.

If only for admin(s);


If for anyone (NOT recommended because if you get lot of people on your track at once, and lapper has to update every second then it will lag - badly)

Yes you are all correct...BUT...this is a post request for an improvement - not a bodge.

I've just uploaded a couple of circuits that I wanted to do for RoC (HERE), but as the shortest of these is 4,200 metres / 2.61 miles, I only wanted a single lap.

Numbers refer to distance in metres to complete full circuit. Imperial, would be 2.61 / 3.11 miles.

Bit of an experiment (well 2 actually) - started off trying to make long Race of Champions (RoC) track, but due to constraints with current start/checkpoint controls, decided to make it single lap. Then, as it's very difficult to judge speed and distance due to lack of contrast when using the concrete slabs and ramps as road, experimented with using colour concrete wedges. I may have overdone it a bit, but does make it easier to drive track.

If you know what you're doing, you could make these into RoC tracks -

4200: the start/finish line for inside lane is 2,075 metres from start/finish of outside lane, and the full circuit is 4,200 metres.



Lap done in RB4 (quite sedentary as kept crashing and falling off circuit when trying to go faster while recording video - makes it sound like I was hand holding camcorder while trying to drive!).

5000: 2,500 to half way point and 5,000 metres to finish.

Specific controls (checkpoints / finish line) for use when making RoC layouts.

At the moment, if I was to place finish line across lanes 1 and 2 of layout (as per 1st image), then regardless of which lane you start in (1 or 2), once you do half the circuit (start/finish line of lane next to where you started), then you will cross the finish line, and race done.

In 2nd image, if you start in lane 1, you will be finished after completing half the circuit, but if you start in lane 2, you will have to do full circuit, and finish where you started.



Same with a checkpoint - ideally you would place it on the start/finish line in the other lane to where you started.

We already have multiple start positions, so these not required.

Curved concrete slab sections would be nice to have, like they use for Scaletrix and other slot car racing...



...where you can have maybe 3 different 22.5 degree diameter sections, each max 16 m wide, so you can join to existing concrete slabs and ramps.

Walls for these would also be great, although you would need at least 10 different sizes to fit 3 curved slabs, due to slabs being able to be resized as 2, 4, 8 and 16 m (remember; inside curve of outside object is same size as outside curve of middle object, so that's single object - red curved line between black and gray objects in image).

Very inner ring curved section probably not required as existing wedge object would be suitable as outer diameter so small, would be almost straight line anyway.

Quote from GreenWorm :

... just give us the track editor. The thing why people stop playing LFS is because its the same cars and same tracks all the time, but with track editor, there is alvays something new and exciting. Imagine what we could create!

Prove it.

There's a simple way to create tracks and that's to use the Autocross editor and place them in the air, above the existing tracks. Admittedly it will only be uniformly plain concrete slabs as ground, but you can lay these these out in any configuration you want. Using ramps, you can even do some basic undulations. And there's a choice of walls.

Show us your imagined or real tracks.

The finished layout won't be lifelike at all due to no textures on ground, walls, no proper track / road side objects, but at the very least, it can give you (and us) an idea of how an (especially imagined) track will 'flow'.

Maybe you're one of these people that think using the Autocross editor is too hard? If so, you think a proper track editor is going to be easy? Maybe we'll get lucky, and it will be like making tracks for TrackMania - bit like making slot car layouts. You just bolt different bits of track together, add some trees, bushes, fences, posts, etc, and voila! You're finished.

Before I played LFS, I'd never used the AutoX editor. And no one gave me instructions. I just started picking and placing objects and turned them, and, where applicable, chose different colours. Then concrete objects came along, and I learned a little more using more choices. When a proper track editor comes along, anyone that wants to try it will have to learn that. And put some effort into it.

Or do you mean, when you say "Imagine what we could create!", you actually mean not you, but someone else?

Someone was having a laugh....

Updated 1st post, as I've now named and loaded all 14 layouts.

Quote from VolksTurbo :

Is there any way that with a command like! Light the traffic light is activated only? without the other systems are activated?

Not quite sure what other systems (functions) you mean, but probably.

For instance, if you didn't want times to show at each split, then delete the whole subs section for each time, such as


Any other system/function you don't want; just a case of going through the code and deleting each of the subs, which are fairly self-explanatory in what they do.

Best to make back-up copy of whole script, and delete each subs code one at a time, testing as you go.

Quote from VolksTurbo :

Probe system in BL1 but the traffic light is very slow in light sequence: s

The light sequence is set to go off at random time. This is to stop people with experience of the system counting down from a set number of seconds and getting a better start than someone who doesn't know how long it takes for lights to change.

To change timing, search for


This means random time from 4 to 9 seconds.

These can be any numbers you want.

Now that I look at it again, 9 seconds does seem a long time. Maybe better as (2,4)?