Quote from Tomppelix2 :

i want some feedback about my first layout i made.....

Its quite good, but it needs tidied up a bit, and some of the corners are a bit tight and constrictive. As are some of the straights.

Because the course is so long, you need more arrow marker boards to show which way to go, and because some of the roads are quite long, and you can reach a high top speed, so will need longer braking zones, you need more distance markers.

There are road signs dotted round the course - nothing to stop you using the Z function and putting marker boards up in front (sometimes the back) of the existing signs or on lamp-posts. Or sit them on top of things (railings, bales, etc), so you can see them from longer distance.

You need to add checkpoints to get rid of the error message when you first load layout, I would suggest at least 2 (press 1 to place first, then < > arrows to change direction, and W or E to change width, then press 2 for second checkpoint, and 3 if you want 3rd).

I'd probably put some marshalls in various places - not because they're needed, but they're the closest you can get to spectators. And you can use the ones that point to give drivers an idea of which way to go.

The one place you have used lots of marshalls (after the bridge, shortly before the finish) - lots of people will get spec'd here for hitting the marshall circles - you should make the marshall circles bit smaller (use W and E keys). People hit marshalls a few times in same spot, and they don't think they're doing wrong, and they give up.

Where you have long line of same objects, I would have broken it up a bit. For instance, instead of say 100 barriers in a row, I might have went barrier - bale - barrier - bale ....

And to finish....your finish line; its facing the wrong direction - you need to turn it 180 degrees (use < or > key). Move the tyres on the left onto the fence - needlessly constrictive here. Give people a big flourish when they finish - put up some concrete posts and hang a coloured wall between them up the top to make it look like a banner.

Hope that helps.

Instead of feedback, you will be asked how you, as a demo player, managed to make a layout, as you need an S1/S2 license to use the layout editor.

Now just over 250 timed laps, so top car times, top 18 times, and top drift scores....

The penultimate solution would be to do clean install of windows - see here for guide if you have Windows 7 - then re-install all drivers, including the Logitech wheel drivers.

The "ultimate" solution would be to buy a new pc.

Not uncommon problem - "This issue is caused by a conflict with some of the files in the 2008 version of the C run-time libraries. These libraries are part of the Visual Studio 2008 release, the version numbers start with 9.0. These libraries may be installed with several different Microsoft and third party products"

Look HERE for steps to follow (ignore that it refers to MS Access - happens to other programs too).

Quote from karlh9711 :

every time i drive on the new westhill acsses roads it either resets or i fall out of the map why is this please help

There's only a few places where I've found this to be true (and I've made a lot of layouts using the access roads [example1 / example 2], some of which I've used on my servers) and that's if you make ramps to get over the fences and use these 'out of bounds' roads, and also some of the grass areas, especially the areas marked on this image;



Maybe you could mark where you're having problems?

A Route Round - top 12 times



A short lived experiment, as only a few cars/drivers able to get under 5 minutes, for their times to be saved.

Server layout now changed.

A Quicker Route Round



Slight changes resulting in saving approx fifth of a mile / 335 metres.

And this layout does includes a horse and cart!

The host name is Sin'rs (WE2Y A Route Round)

I got a "Get Windows 10" notification pop up on my task bar, offering me chance to upgrade from my existing Win 7 Pro to Win 10 Pro.

Anyone tried the demo version, and is it worth upgrading? Or, is anyone going to upgrade anyway?

Can't say I'm really a fan of the tile look introduced in Win 8, although my son has Win 8.1 on his laptop, and says you get used to it quite quickly. "Used to" isn't the same as liking.

As long as I can still access my music, photos, internet, email and LFS, don't really care much about what else it can do.

I'm aware Win7 mainstream support has already ended, although there is extended support till 2020.

Maybe Mygale, the people who made the car (here) might be willing to give you some details if you contact them?

Sadly, no, as I run out of objects. But the overturned car in Sector 1 still hasn't been removed, and there is a traffic island in sector 3.

Watching the other cars, most go past on the 'wrong' (right hand) side of the island - must be a continental thing, as in Britain, we're conditioned to go the left hand (right way) side.

I was going to tear down a grandstand to free some objects up, but it would mean resetting the server to reload the revised layout, and with almost a dozen times on the front screen, a couple of them quite quick, this would result in these being lost (although only from front screen).

Put new layout on one of my servers - "A Route Round".



Start to Finish is approx 6.67 miles / 10.7 km long, with each sector approx. 1/4 distance.

I've used sufficient 75m distance and corner arrow marker boards that means you should find your way round, and have some idea of where to brake.

Took me 6:22 minutes to get round in a RB4.

Note: If trying to set time on my server, it will only save times under 5:00 minutes.

As per my previous Westhill road layouts, you are expected to stay on the road - lots of route markers used, so if you miss one (go off road), you will be spec'd soon after.

Some cutting of corners allowed - within reason. But you must go through the 'gates', marked out with green posts.

Hitting a 'gate' will result in a time penalty - rather than a sudden stop like my other recent online layouts.



Edit: Added another layout (A Quicker Route Round)

Last edited by sinanju, Tue 9 Jun 2015, 15:47.

Quote from Bass-Driver :

ey,
just as we spoke via PM. Try my lapper.
If the yellowflag is working then must be something wrong with your Lapper/Script.
I will test yours tomorrow.

Still couldn't get it to work. Also tried your script and mine on my son's pc, and still same issues, including $Currply ["userName"]/$Currply ["nickName"] not working.

Put the yellowflag.lpr file - in attached zip - on my Sin'rs Too Drive It... server, and got the following;



Again, $Currply ["userName"]/$Currply ["nickName"] not working.

And it looks like the $Whois in the FOREACH gives a result as "Array" However, Array and my username don't appear when I try on my pc; only online. Also, on my pc, the !who command gives a blank page in Krayy's CIF module, but online, my name appears.

Also put on the new lfslapper.exe (one for getting live drift scores), which shows as V6.0.1.4 when typing !ver.

Another bit of testing - last tonight...



Assuming the code is correct, then $CurrPly["userName"] and $CurrPly["nickName"] just won't work (and I'm testing in 6.0.1.4).

Not got round to putting test yellow flag script onto my server yet, but I tested Port Forwarding on my pc earlier....



... and even closed my Windows Firewall, but still nothing.

Why that should make a difference when i'm testing as Local Multiplayer on home network 127.0.0.1:29999, I've no idea.

Tried a short test with new additional bit of code


In the lapper console, I get "(Debug) test", and in game, I also get "(Debug) test" - but neither show my username or nickname, which is weird. My first thought was maybe V6.0.1.3 didn't recognise $CurrPly, but if so, why do I get both debug messages, which rely on $CurrPly?

And no other script that requires use of FOREACH is working.

Just had a thought - if I have time later, I'll test on my son's pc (probably require to install LFS, but I can always try it in demo mode. Probably should have done this first

Big thank you for sticking with me!

Further tests done - all to no avail.

Downloaded and re-installed LFS, then ran lapper with yellowflag5.lpr add-on, but still no yellow flag, although country flag ok.

Added some additional code;

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Although the Sector debug messages work ("(DEBUG) You are now in Sector n"), none of the FOREACH, WriteLine, dumpVar or the $CurrPly messages appear in console or on screen.

When I do a !who request, my name doesn't appear in Krayy's CIF module (don't think I've looked at this offline before, so not sure if that's normal). Nor does it appear in the Membership module, which I've never enabled before and only used in this test as it was included and set up in the new lapper V6 I installed.

For these reasons, I think the problem may be something to do with my Win7 or network settings, although lapper is allowed full access to my network, so not sure what network problem could be.


My next step (much later on today), will be to put a yellowflag.lpr file onto one of my online servers, and test it online. That way it doesn't rely on my Win7 or network settings being correct.

Still can't get it to work.

Tried again on vanilla copy of LFSLapper V6.014_v015. Added my yellowflag5.lpr file, and although the country flags and debug messages are seen on big drifts, the yellow flags and debug messages still missing.

Then used your modified .exe file, and apart from updating my drift scoreboard live (I only found out how to do this 2 weeks ago using lapper script!), still no yellow flag or debug messages.

Moved by LFS directory from C:\Games\ to C:\, even though I've never had any previous issues with LFS in my Win7 Games directory, but no difference.

Tried your file (which I called yellowflag6.exe), with and without modified .exe, and still not working.

The major change I made to your new file was to remove the IF($yellowflagsystem == "on" part - there will be no IF on my servers - it will always be on.

Everything I've been using, including modified .exe, in attached zip.

The only other thing I can think of to do is to download new copy of LFS and install that, then test again.

Just downloaded your new file.

Wonder if the problems I'm having are related to me using V6.0.1.3?

This is the version both of my online host providers add when user requests lapper (as against Airio), so its the version I use for testing offline (multiplayer/start new host/visibility: local), as I've been doing for this code.

Feeling stupid as still can't get your code to work.

Tried streamlining a bit - I'm testing on track with 4 sectors, so just set GlobalVar
GlobalVar $TrackSplits ; $TrackSplits = "3";

Added small country flag and private message to appear before the FOREACH sections to prove that going over $MinAngleVelocity = 25; works - it does, but the yellow flag and global message that should appear once the FOREACH code starts, still won't appear. And there are no errors being reported in the log files.

Code attached.

On your tracksplits code, you have $IsOpenConfig - I assume you must be using that in some other add-on, as not doing anything in the code you attached.

As we both thought, it was the OnMaxNbInStunt event causing the spec when spinning.

I've never changed the default since using lapper, and I've never added it into any other add-ons.

I disabled it, so I no longer got specced, but I still don't get debug messages on spinning.

I then re-enabled it, and transferred your code from 'CatchEvent OnAngleVelocity' to 'CatchEvent OnMaxNbInStunt', but, again, no debug messages.

Just a thought, but would it be best to have same code in both these events?

What's "stunt mode" anyway? Donuts?

You are trying to do too much at once.

Do it one stage at a time, so you understand what is happening, and, more importantly, make it easier to change or fix if it doesn't work right.

Quote from MemoPedra :

.. is there a way to "replace" the main_accept on the message self destruct or at the clickmessage, because now it doesnt show when someone log in, for example: "Robert a new visitor has logged in!" it only shows when i click at the accept button, so i just want to replace it to this i think

openPrivButton( "clickmessage",40,136,120,6,10,18,ISB_LIGHT,langEngine("%{main_clickmessage}%"),OnConnectCloseKick );

..

In the default lfslapper.lpr script, when someone connects, they get a welcome message with 2 buttons under the message. If the [ACCEPT] button is clicked, this does nothing BUT close the message and the buttons. If the [DENY] button is clicked, then the message and buttons are closed, AND the user will be kicked.

Because the timer is set to -1, the message will always stay on screen for the person that has connected, until they click either button.

The ACCEPT and DENY buttons are only triggers for starting a sub-routine when clicked. You could easily change these - for instance, you could change the wording, add a pop-up message when someone clicks on a button, change what they do - instead of just kicking someone if they click the DENY button, you could add a ban ( cmdLFS( "/ban " . $Username . " 30" ), or add a message to say "I forgive you", and change the sub-routine at end of button code from "OnConnectCloseKick" to "OnConnectClose" (so both ACCEPT and DENY buttons do same thing). Or, for fun, reduce timer (eg -1 to 4) on DENY button sub to give new user only few seconds to hit button before it disappears, leaving only the ACCEPT button. Or, if you really wanted some serious fun, use the DelayedCommand code, then you could have the DENY button move around the screen every second or so.

What the buttons read, and what they do, is up to how you code them.

Your "clickmessage" button, which you have set to clear (self destruct!) in 18 seconds - if this is used in the 'Event OnConnect' section, and because its a private button, only the person joining should see this. So, if I understand correctly, why are you getting an ACCEPT button if someone else joins?

Best you show your whole OnConnect section (from Event to EndEvent), along with the relevant part of the language section. I can tell a lot about your "clickmessage" button - except what, if anything, it actually reads.

Quote from Bass-Driver :

hey,

I have made already the basics(no not done yet) to set the user in the right Sector and detect where the crash is....

Tried your code,and the debug messages for advising player which sector they are in works (removed erroneous ENDIF in your Race and Qualy Events), but if you spin, you don't get message, but more likely (especially if big spin) to be spectated.

To make sure it wasn't a problem with the IF statements when a player was in a particular sector, I simplified the spin code to check


This worked, but again, spin specs you.

Also experimented with putting the FOREACH before the IF statements (with ENDFOREACH after last ENDIF) but nothing happens.

Just had a thought as I finish this - which I need to check - wonder if the stunt Event causing spec?

I made a simple Yellow flag system for people who spin that shows a global yellow flag to everyone to be aware that someone spun (likely caused by crash). There's also a delayed command, which shows a Green flag once the Yellow flag disappears off screen.

I'm using the 'Event OnAngleVelocity'.

However, I'd like it to be shown to people only in the sector the event occurs, along with the sector before.

So, if spin happens in Sector 3, then Sectors 2 and 3 get message, but not 1 and 4, or if spin happens in Sector 1, then sectors 1 and 4 get message.

Not sure about what happens if track layout only has 3 sectors, if code written for 4 sectors.

Anyone like to take this on?

My code is attached, which is mainly how the large flags are made.

For testing purposes only, I've set the $MinAngleVelocity very low - 40 - normally I have it at 181.

OK, so ACR = Admin Command Report, and when an error message comes through, its not really an error message, but LFS's way of saying that an admin has typed in an admin command?

Few things.

I'm the admin on my server, but as I only rent the server, then really I'm only just the insim-admin? Even although I have privileges on the server to change things, like tracks, weather, cars, welcome message, etc.

In the cut-down sample racecontrol.lpr file, I've stripped out all the 'IF UserIsAdmin' code, so the only admin command that's left is the globalRcm request to display message.

So, to stop at least some of the messages, instead of using any RCM messages, I'm better just using buttons to simulate an RCM message.

Without doing more testing, is cmdLFS an admin command?

(As an aside, in your sample code, you have cmdLfs( "/end " ); Does this bit work, even though LFS isn't written in capitals?).

And glad you managed to find your own 'bug'.

Comment: Lapper seems to be going same way as Airio, and appears to be no longer supported. I think we were very fortunate that Krayy took over for a while, but further InSim changes may impact on existing code.