If you can get hold of one a Driving Force Pro would be your best bet, followed by a momo. You should be able to pick up a second hand DFP for about £30-40, and its a great wheel for the money.

Its excellent... Rolling on the floor screaming while chewing the door frame hard...! But excellent.

''McLaren deny rumours of cutbacks in their pit crew...''

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

He want's to get a Core2Quad to 3.7 GHz

What a waste of a Core2Quad.

Isn't a Core2Quad fast enough as it is? Surely if you want to spend your time destroying something its far cheaper to buy a roll of bubble wrap.

Quote from harjun :

loL no, i just left this forum kind of, i dont come on MUCh, im on the ebuyer forum, they're more friendly there

also, that wasnt norton i blocked up, it was just some programme that you shouldnt know about

YES! He's back!

Quote from Mithras :

You wrote the definition incorrectly. By your definition, the word should be just "Harjun", and it would be a verb

Correction:

Harjun [har-juhnd]
-verb

1. The act of doing something idiotic so as to relate closely to Harjun.

-adjective

1. Of, or pertaining to, an idiot.

I don't mean this, of course. Just a little humor is all..

And that is why you'll never see me writing a dictionary any time soon...

Quote from Takumi_lfs :

wow.. Harjun is going to be a famous guy in the Lfsforums..

And Harjun'd is getting a official word in lfsforums



hmmm.. is it something like owned?

EDIT : but my sig is orginal!

Kind of...

Harjun'd (adj) - To fail by acting in a way that contradicts all sound advice given at the time. To pwn oneself.

Last edited by Origamiboy, Sun 30 Sep 2007, 00:20. Reason : Its late and I wrote something daft

Great replies.

So, what you are all effectively saying is that all sims should be taken seriously, and seen as various component parts of sim racing as a whole?

My next question however is this.. With the current culture of 'my sim is better than your sim' amongst racers, how easy do you think integration between sims will be to achieve? For example, if sim racing becomes a recognised sport, there will eventually become 'top drivers'.. If the various sim racing 'celebrities' all use differing sims, how will they be judged against each other?

Will differing sims be thought of in the same way as differing forms of motorsport (eg F1 vs Nascar vs Touring Car etc) ?

It will be interesting to see what happens.

''Following this incident it is now forbidden for women in the crowd to show their breasts to passing drivers...''

Quote from Shotglass :

i still cant figure out how she even got into that situation in the first place
she was parked on a completely empty bit of parking lot with no worries of the front scraping on another car regardless of which way you turn while reversing

Yikes! If it had been my car she'd hit I'd make it a priority to hunt her down and burn her driving licence!

I mean, what kind of scum hits a parked car 3 times and just drives away?! The mind boggles...

In the end though, will there need to be one 'sim of choice' for sim racing to be taken seriously as a sport?

Can there ever be just one all encompassing simulation that provides a constant platform throughout the sim racing world? I doubt it, but it seems everything may be a bit too fragmented for the public as a whole to take sim racing seriously.

''During the inaugural LFS real life drivers' championship, turn one went exactly as expected...''

Quote from dropin_biking :

Wow that really is, the only downside would be either nothing would be on, or a crap load of lights would be flickering.
~Bryan~

Nothing wrong with using a little poetic licence for the sake of a good story though..

Quote from dropin_biking :

Wow...it may be because I'm really high right now...but I completely agree. Letting the reader know the light on the dash (later found to be ABS) was lit-up. It doesn't bring the surprise that the reader should feel when they crash.

I just wrote something right now, about my feeling about WOT (yes, wide open throttle, the actual word we use) I think it's pretty cool, but again, I'm fried.

Perhaps you could word it something like this:-

''As I surveyed the wreckage in shock, I noticed something flickering through the drivers side window..''

Not bad at all. You really capture the 'feel' of the drive and the complexity of the road. Just needs tightening up in places and the grammar tidying.

Nice work.

Quote from Hollywood :

Sadly you are right, it doesn't. Although I do drool at the thought of someone with the budget of say a Forza 3 making a cross-platform high-end racing simulator (with included arcade mode of course.)

Never, ever gonna happen I'm afraid...

Look at Richard Burns Rally for example, an absolutely fantastic rally SIM. Unfortunately it got many poor reviews on account of its difficulty and was shunned by the game playing public in favour of Colin McRae Rally series.

With budgets for games skyrocketing, publishers can't afford to take risks, therefore you will not see them making a full on simulation for the mass market.

True sim racing will remain a niche market, sustained by a small and dedicated development base, not unlike LFS IMHO.

Quote from Takumi_lfs :

QUOTED!

You know, when you've been Harjun'd...

Quote from wsinda :

Winner? Me? I thought this one was better:
It had me and chuckle continually for half an hour. Oh well.

Here is the new picture. Should be well-known among punk fans.

TBH, you're right, DarkTimes caption was better, but I must've missed it.. Sorry

Anyhoo.. :-

''When Willy Wonka offered all employees a company car, this wasn't what they had in mind..''

Whoops! Sorry!

Just came across this amazing animation. It shows all the component parts of a 4 cylinder engine, followed by a slow motion look at the engine in use.

Incredible stuff...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... p;mode=related&search=

Quote from wsinda :

After a night of booze and weed, Billy Joe thought it was a good idea to drive home, cruising lazily behind a dump truck.

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Famous last words: Yay, VTEC kicked iiiiiinnnnnn!!

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The Hell's Angels have their own ways to settle a "business disagreement".

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Honda team admits to having setup problems.

Winner!

Quote from unknownrisks :

Whats a good technique for creating flames?

Not my area of expertise I'm afraid. Try asking this guy...

http://www.raymears.com/

Holy crap!

I see what you mean. Using my left foot I practically buried the accelerator into the floor. So used to pushing a heavier brake pedal I suppose..

Quote from Becky Rose :

You may not like it, but remember that this all started with a NEED for my league drivers to have people to practice against who didnt constantly crash them, as it had proved impossible in the run up to our Aston Cadet round for our drivers to get good uninterupted lines in a public server with 2 live admins. It wasn't working, too many people did not know rules about overtaking or rejoining into traffic.

The wrecker barricade might stop some people from driving the wrong way, but it did nothing to teach armchair racers what the rules of the track where.

The CTRA is just a public server system, not a league, for that there is the STCC. I believe our public servers has positively impacted the overall standard of racing in LFS, whether i'm right or not is for the reader to decide, but I do remember how hard it was to 'run the guantlet' in public racing.

Personally, I think ''exclusionary practice'' is great for LFS. If you had no concept of racing rules and behaviour you would not be allowed to race in RL, so why should you be able to in a racing sim?

It may take time to learn the ropes, but once you do the experience is infinitely more rewarding.

Its amazing how many people moan about a sim not being realistic enough, then set about driving in a manner that would be downright lethal in RL.

And then you could drive into the crab's weak point for massive damage!